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Please

By now, I would think you would have noticed, your comments on The Stand blog have not been well received. One reason for the negative response is your insistence to leave allusions, which are condescending to participants, without stating anything specific to the book. You also bring up other authors and books without giving any specific references within said books that relate to specific references in The Stand. It seems that you are well-read, however, it is also assumptive on your part, the other participants have read the numerous books you insist on referencing. This behavior is not only inappropriate, it is not encouraging people to participate, including the current participants. Also, you seem to disregard the blatant fact, Sean Sheep has LEFT, the site. Referencing him as getting your points is not appropriate and quite insulting. Why do you insist on insulting other users? Does this make you feel better about yourself? It shouldn't as it only reflects an inability to relate to other people. Is it any wonder to you that people are fed up with the book snobbery you are choosing to demonstrate? Sorry, this must be spelled out to you in such a direct manner, but you have left no alternative, because of either your apparent inability to comprehend - or perhaps your choice to blatantly ignore, what other participants have shared with you. My request is that you either not participate on the LBC blogs OR choose to become more responsive in a positive manner by engaging and encouraging participation vs. what is currently happening which is creating conflict and discontent with your inappropriate participation which is insulting current participants, as outlined above. With complaints from users, I have encouraged your participation. It's now in your hands what transpires from this point forward. I'm certainly hoping for more positive results. Thank You for your sincere consideration. --Just Sayin' JSTalk LBC LBCTalk eMail 20:18, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Just Sayin', and here's my own two cents. We understand you clearly have a lot to say. The problem is, what you have to say is completly off topic. I'm sure if you were to start your own blog post(its quite easy)you would attract other well read users to discuss the many authors and books with you that you have mentioned. But if you continue to deliberatly pollute(that is how I interpret what you are doing)our discussions, you can plan on being ill received and reported to a Sysop. Enough!HorribleEyes 20:46, August 21, 2010 (UTC)HorribleEyesHorribleEyes 20:46, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

farewell

No, i do not want to direct you to a church or to belief in God (S). I want to direct you to my rude, pompous comments. I am happy to be ill-received. I am glad to be unsympathetic. I want you to go out, get library cards, and tell me how wrong I am. If you live in the US, you must know that your liberties are being destroyed in the name of wars that are impossible to win. If you lived where I do, where no vast public libraries stand open to the poor and rich, maybe you'd you wanted put freedom of expression above all else. I live in a country where a quarter of the population cannot read. No, my friends, I have profited greatly from our exchanges. It is shame that you do not remember that same man that wrote the Declaration of Independence, fought for a statute for religious tolerance ( while he personally despised the theology of mainstream Protestant faiths and thought Catholics were the servants of a foreign enemy),and gave (sold) his books to form the nucleus of the Library of Congress. I am old, rude,pompous; pick your adjective. But I know that those who do not test the limits of liberty will soon be without it. GET THOSE LIBRARY CARDS; ASK WHO MONITORS THE BOOKS YOU READ; THE DVD'S You have correctly diagnosed my problem. Take a look behind; is there somebody waiting to "re-educate", to stop you from wasting time with all those worthless books. You are foolish if you think I am your antagonist. He is much closer. Ask somebody who lived under any sort of dictatorships.--Past recaptured 14:06, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

It is sad, that you feel you need to say farewell. It certainly is not anyone's intention in communicating with you to discuss concerns of your commentary on the LBC blogs. And, contrary to your belief, I do not see you as my antagonist. In fact, I have been a proponent of your participation, in spite of concerns expressed. I walk a fine line in trying to appease and at the same time encourage involvement in the LBC. Personally, I feel you have much to offer in giving your perspective. My only requests are as follow....1. Provide your commentary without inviting confrontation and conflict with other participants. Be responsive in a positive manner to their expressed concerns without fueling the fire. And by the way, NO Response while continuing the same behavior IS fueling the fire. 2. Keep your commentary focused on the discussions at hand and provide specific references to the current book and it's relationship to LOST. If you feel a need to take the discussion away from the current book and LOST, start a separate Discussion Blog and encourage others to participate. These are not unreasonable requests, especially for someone so knowledgable and mature. YES, I currently have my Library Card and do use it, so there is no need for me to get another one. I do sympathize and to some degree empathize with your political commentary and how it relates to your warning to be aware. Speaking for myself, I am very aware and politically in tune to what is occurring in my country, as you obviously are with yours. If you want to discuss separately, a Discussion Blog would encourage others to participate as well. However, any polictical discussion often does invite conflict and confrontation, so I would advise you to choose your words well if you decide to create a Political Discussion blog. I also suspect, the admins of Lostpedia, may also find it to be not appropriate to the purpose of this specific Wiki. Ahh, so we have come full circle back to what the real issue has become. With the knowledge of the specific purpose of Lostpedia and the LBC, commentary that does not specifically relate to these topics is considered not appropriate. Continued inppropriate commentary is considered confrontational. Lack of positive response, negative response and retreat is truly sad. I hope you will reconsider and rejoin the discussion understanding the requests with a positive response. Thank You for your consideration. --Just Sayin' JSTalk LBC LBCTalk eMail 15:16, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I spent three days a week for 10 years educating myself in the public library, and it's better than college. People should educate themselves - you can get a complete education for no money. At the end of 10 years, I had read every book in the library and I'd written a thousand stories. ray bradbury. past recaptured has few words left; I am going to use some smarter people to do my talkin' for me. I am a thief of the contents of intelligent and superior minds. --Past recaptured 15:25, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

well-chosen words

my latest book which you help to inspire conveys a sentiment that a short Princeton graduate put into the Ist ammendment to the Constitution. i suggest his words, not mine. To summarize Mr Madison, without freedom of speech and assembly, freedom is useless. There are some words by Washington (through his main speechwriter Alexander Hamilton)about Jewish Americans. And there was the ugly tall railroad lawyer from Illinois who said that if there were anyone in the audience that did not care for the Declaration of Independence, He would be happy to assist tearing out of any book in which it was placed. He got no takers. I guess he was just born at the wrong time. I do not care about empathy. Empathy does not put food in your stomach and surely, does not stop the knock at midnight of men in black. My words, they have spoken by men far better than myself. It is just that you seem to have forgotten or not be aware of them.

I thought I could ignore you, but I just can't. Where do you get off constantly talking down to us? Do you honestly think ANYONE enjoys that? Finds it charming? It is like you are set on making yourself the resident "jerk"...why, I have no idea. Really, what is the point of all of it? Do you think you're "educating" us? Doing us "poor uninformed, uneducated idiots" a favor? NO! How DARE you assume you are SO much better than your fellow man! Thinking like that, you must live in a constant state of contempt. You must make yourself miserable, and for that, I feel sad for you. A sad, sad person, so busy being high above the rest, he finds himself alone. What an existence...sad. I am going to request you simply stay on topic in the blogs, and the first time you decide to start your thinly veiled insults, I am reporting you. I do not care HOW educated you are, clearly human interaction was something you missed out on. Good bye.HorribleEyes 17:15, August 24, 2010 (UTC)HorribleEyesHorribleEyes 17:15, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

thanks

paradox: I read your post every day. It is one of most inspiring statements, I have ever encountered. I cannot thank you enough. To read your inspirational words gives me strength to stand against my oponents. You give me courage.--Past recaptured 13:10, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

the part before and the harder part after

Ok, I am going to put my cards as much as i can on table. I am the part that the patient experience before people like Jack (surgeons). I am the guy that shows up about the operation fails, after the rehab. fails, after the emotional strength that people like jack incorrectly think everybody has fails. I am the guy that gets called when the chemo is beginning, when the spinal intervention does not work, when demenza has set in. I do internal medicine, forensic medicine (I fall into that by accident), endocrinology less oftem than I like and psicoterapia using a theoretical that is fundamentally European in origin with with North American trappings. I know jack, christian, juilet better than any others. juilet's a bitch, got no use for her. jack and christian are batting overall in the low 200's. You are right: i got no interest in talking to jack or christian or their real life counterparts; I am interested in their results. Miles, p. chang, sawyer, I met them. And, if you ask them, even james bond, not mention 2 Cia agents. i know sayid and eli widmore (usually her hair is bluer.) Folks like jacob and Mib, those I have known too many to count. I wish i had met some people like locke, ben, desmond, hurley, or faraday. Oh, I knew Charlie. Charlie was the best teacher I had. In return for methadone, he taught how to be a therapist. i entered the lab when I was 18. I am trying to finish my 7th book ( which I owe to you folks). I cannot tell you why but I find ... how can I put gently ... As in The Hounds of the Baskervilles, the dog did not bark. i am 53 now; american social security has set my date for retirement 02/23. i do not if i can i make that far. that's God's business. I am kinda a small scale charlie Widmore. As you may know since the election of Obama, American embassies have making list of ex-patriots (Pun-Intention) who want to renounce their US citizenship. I am not looking for redemption like the suddenly silly Ben: I am not on that list. I play the cards I was dealt.--Past recaptured 16:29, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

to just sayin'

You think I was tough on Stephen King? I suggest to you go today's New York Times for a criticism of one Homer (not Simpson) by a fellow named Plato. Homer is described as amatchless poet and matchless source of corruption. To Plato Homer is a video gamerated triple X for bad conduct, immorality, and examples of incorrect compartment. As I said I do not need my words. I personally like Homer but really would not be a cyclops' entree or fill my modest home with dead bodies--Past recaptured 20:11, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

  • Sounds very interesting and I will check it out at your recommendation. While it's somewhat interesting to see how different author's perceive their fellow authors, I really think some of that has to be taken with a grain of salt. As in life, different people have varying views and on occassion a kind of rivalry can exist, which can certainly color the opposing commentary with some emotion. However, I'm actually more interested in reading the literary works that have in some way contributed to the story of LOST. The idea behind the LBC is to read the LOST literary works to have a better understanding of their LOST presence. While we may have varying views on the authors and their works, I guess, I'm much more focused in a different direction than attempting to analyze the author's worthiness as an author, of which I may or may not agree. My focus is more in understanding how that author's work has influenced the creators and writers of LOST. How the varying author's themes, characters and philosophies are similar or different from what we experienced with the TV series. LOL at your comment regarding cyclops. Likewise, I would certainly not take on the characteristics of my favorite characters. Thanks for bringing the article to my attention, I will take a look at the content.
--Just Sayin' JSTalk LBC LBCTalk eMail 20:32, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Clarification

This article is not about how one authors sees another. No, it is the central argument in an up-coming Supreme Court case. It is the same argument that was used to prevent the importation of Joyce's Ulysses. The Vintage Giant Edition contains from pp V to XV legal issues involving the case. You now can make up your mind about this issue. Perhaps, 9 people in DC will make the decision for you in the near future. The emmies are interesting, but without legal importance. Supreme Court cases are different matters.--Past recaptured 20:54, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

are you big and bad enough?

The name: Dostoyevsky. The experience: the Brothers Karamazov. you are in the ring with Mike Tyson. Aint no ref., just a cage like WWE. This is the man (anti-western, anti- American, anti- Semetic). You want terror: open the Grand Inquisitor, old Fodor is trying to convince you that Christ is your enemy. His subsequent portrait of Satan is a masterpiece of absolute terror. You read, but when the book is closed the terror, the ambiguity, the realization that God is battling Satan and his aliies for your soul stays with you. There are chapters of the Possessed and the Idiot that are unreadable (in my opinion) because they are invitations to psychotic behavior. keep in mind that Constance Garret tones things a bit in translation. If Dostoyevsky is on God's side, how come the devil and his far more dangerous allies get all the best lines--Past recaptured 20:35, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Posts on talk pages

You keep posting analysis and observations on talk pages. People (almost) never respond. This has nothing to do with the posts themselves. Talk pages simply aren't for discussing Lost. They're for discussing articles' content. Instead, why not post your own blogs? That way, people can actually read what you write. --- Balk Of Fametalk 13:08, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

reply to balk of fame

I am not allowed on certain pages. Moreover my purpose and the the reasons i came back are TWO: You guys are smarter. The more rude my posts, the more intelligent are your responses. It is wise to remember that: every person is my superior in that I may learn from him. second, you guys warm me up. Much as Steinbeck used corespondence to warm-up for the writing of his books, I use you. My books are allover the internet. Where? I will not say. I do not come to sell. I come to learn.

What do you mean you're not allowed on certain pages? You mean other people's blogs? That's not true, but if it were, you should create your own. Maybe you're being sarcastic about "you guys are smarter" (despite your tangents, you're probably smarter than most here) but if you want intelligent responses or correspondence, write blogs. --- Balk Of Fametalk 12:10, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

To Past recaptured

Please forgive me for eavesdropping on your message to BalkOfFame. I hope you are not referencing the LBC blogs as places you are not allowed. This has never been the case, as I have always made the point, your posts are encouraged. The requests, we make of you is that you do not insult other users and that you keep your posts related to the book being discussed. I'm confident you are capable of both of these requests. I hope you will not continue your self-imposed exile from participating in the LBC. --Just Sayin' JSTalk LBC LBCTalk eMail 12:05, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

P.S. BalkOfFame, is making a very good point about posting your own blogs vs. using the "Talk" pages. The blogs are much more appropriate for expressing your thoughts and getting feedback from others. --Just Sayin' JSTalk LBC LBCTalk eMail 12:07, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

you are right

Thank you for the good advice. this is 1st experience with chatting. LOST was too precious to skip over. It is a remarkable achievement: one that merits our attention. I am, by nature, a sardonic, sarcastic person, a product of sharp exchanges with my high school teachers (Benedictine priests) who relied less on courtesy and more on cold intellect. This is not an apology. It is simply a statement that I was an apt student. I never had more intellectual freedom and a greater tolerance for my opinions. Strange to you but for me the greatest liberty I ever had was within a religious framework. The recent play WIT explains this feeling well.--Past recaptured 21:26, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Walt Lloyd Article

Removed your signature from the Walt Lloyd article. Signatures are never used in articles. You should only use your signature on the 'Talk' pages. Thanks --Just Sayin' JSTalk LBC LBCTalk eMail 19:16, October 7, 2010 (UTC) thank you -- I am not good at following rules. I am one of those people born thinking outside the box. I am more honest than most; I lie only when a patient seems unable to handle bad news or when they are attached emotionally to their illness. (We will meet thess concepts again in late October). --Past recaptured 18:11, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

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