FANDOM

Hi! I'm so glad I found this site! I'm also horribly new to the wiki movement, so if I step on anyone's toes or break etiquette somehow, please feel free to let me know before I become a nuisance! (if it isn't too late already ;) ) From what I've read so far, you guys have set up a wonderful community here, and hopefully the perfect outlet to stop Lost from eating my brain all day!--Beardog4314 11:48, 16 May 2006 (PDT)

Jeep Video

I'm trying to figure out what the text at the end of the Jeep video says. I tried adjusting the levels and sharpening it some, and it seems to be something along the lines of "ECHO ME JEEP GIF". Then again, I could be completely wrong... Antiuser 16:09, 17 May 2006 (PDT)

Thanks for putting that up, I'm actually wasting time at work, and www.youtube.com is firewalled here (something about adult content) so I couldn't watch the movie. "ECHO ME" looks really good, and you're probably right about JEEP GIF too, it's just hard to make out. Makes sense being in a jeep commercial... could be meant to be a tip on finding the Hugh McIntyre password, except I think that's a jpg. Looks like I'll be watching commercials again during Lost tonight! Anyone have any ideas on what the string below the symbol reads?--Beardog4314 16:22, 17 May 2006 (PDT)
The string below the symbol is hard to identify... the first word looks like "permission", which leads me to believe it's just a statement saying that Chrysler (owners of the Jeep trademark) authorised the producers to use the footage. I tried using different sharpen/level settings on that but "permission" is all I can make out. Antiuser 16:27, 17 May 2006 (PDT)
Aha! A girl on the ABC blog got a good look at it. She says it's "ECHO ME UTEP HIT" which works out to "The Mouthpiece". Still no leads on the bottom ones though...
Ah, that makes sense. The bottom one will be hard, unless there's a less compressed version of the movie... artifacts kill it the way it is now. Antiuser 16:48, 17 May 2006 (PDT)
The bottom one is the same as the title of the compass website LOSTonthisdarnisland 08:40, 20 May 2006 (PDT)

Redirecting

  • I know you probably thought it wasn't a big deal, but please don't redirect a character's name to the actor's page. Even if there is no character page.--CaptainInsano 16:29, 30 August 2006 (PDT)

Locke's lousy tracking

Hi :) I just wanted t say that I sooo liked your comment on Locke's trend to find a new Hatch whenever he goes to track the others. It's an obvious smart point that no one makes, and reading it was incredibly funny as well :) -- 18:07, 1 November 2006 (PST)

Pic

Hi, I got it :) --PandoraX 17:32, 8 November 2006 (PST)

Voting

No problem, you're always welcome to ask questions. On "how long the polls stay open", there hasn't been a hard & fast rule on this since I've been here. Usually we leave it up for a good consensus to develop. For example, if the first 6 or 7 votes are all within the first 3 days and all "Yes", we might consider that a strong consensus and make the change. In other cases, it might take longer for people to leave remarks at all, or it'll be a controversial subject that will be debated back and forth for months. In the wiki world, consensus doesn't always mean the majority, and a decision can be technically "vetoed" by a Sysop. Sysops do usually try to respect open debate and go with the vote, because this wiki is for all users who are valuable contributors to the site; but occasionally, there is an issue that trumps this, and we close off "voting" and remove the delete/merge tag (for example, if the user just wasn't aware that the page does serve an important function that wasn't obvious).

In the case of the theory policy, it's a pretty big change, so I wanted to make sure it was rubber-stamped by User: Admin who owns the site. He did show approval, plus we seem to have some general agreement between commenters on most of the issues brought up in the talk page. So it looks like it'll be a "go" pretty soon, it's just a matter of logistics as to how it'll be implemented--I think Jabr is just waiting on Admin to change some coding to lostpedia to make the theory tabs appear.

--PandoraX 18:46, 10 November 2006 (PST)

Rivalries article

Hi Beardog! Thanks for all your hard work on the Rivalries article over the weekend! I like the format you've set up for it -- makes it easy to navigate/edit. I was actually going to use paragraph/prose format, but this works much better. Now if I can only figure out how to caption the Jack vs. Sawyer picture... --Amberjet11 09:43, 13 November 2006 (PST)

Thanks, the caption is great! I wanted to make a point of saying that Sawyer hasn't hit Jack (who I believe has punched him more than once). It's important to show how the rivalries started and ended. I'm informally calling this article the "LOST Feud-O-Meter"! Of course I don't mind if you enter the information in there...you did a great job! I'm hoping we can get it even more specific with more pictures and occasional snippets of dialogue (like I did in "Danielle vs. Others"). --Amberjet11 10:03, 13 November 2006 (PST)

Sig

Your signature is currently displaying HTML code on the source of talk pages (it's a Lostpedia bug). To fix it try the instructions at Help:Signatures#Signatures_Displaying_HTML_Code -- Paladine<c.t> 12:27, 15 November 2006 (PST)

Thanks...

...for everything. You're good people! --Amberjet11 13:31, 15 November 2006 (PST)


Long Con

Nice rewrite --Nickb123 (Talk) 15:58, 16 November 2006 (PST)

Rousseau's maps and notes

For what reason did you remove most of that article? I could agree to some extent that some theories were unnecessary, but you removed even the translations? --Jambalaya 06:46, 26 November 2006 (PST)

Ah, thanks for clearing that up! :-D --Jambalaya 15:09, 27 November 2006 (PST)

Reverts

You can manually revert. Go into the history. Find the newest page before the vandalism. Click on it to open the page. Click edit, then save it.  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  15:13, 5 December 2006 (PST)

But yes, SysOps have a specific button for it. Saves a few clicks. -Chris[dt7] 15:52, 5 December 2006 (PST)


Re:Intercom

Because it was Alex's voice. I thought that was obvious? --Nickb123 (Talk) 13:57, 11 December 2006 (PST)

Sounded clear as day to me as Alex --Nickb123 (Talk) 14:20, 11 December 2006 (PST)
Well my interpretation was Alex was helping Jack escape. Obviously she and Ben have some kind of relationship, and we know the rest of the Others were trying to stop her from seeing Ben. Maybe she wanted to let Jack out so she could stick with him, which would lead her to Ben whom she knows is desperate to have Jack kept under lock and key. Who knows! --Nickb123 (Talk) 14:44, 11 December 2006 (PST)
Oh no I get you're not being argumentative - this is a discussion, not a conflict. I say Alex with confidence cause I heard the actress voice clear as day when I watched the episode (and I saw it twice) - as clear as I would recognise any voice etc. That's why I'm saying it, cause despite yeah not the very best quality, I still definitely heard Alex IMO. I'd like to know what other people think on this --Nickb123 (Talk) 15:44, 11 December 2006 (PST)

Sawyer

  • It isn't really a theory or speculation I didn't know what to call it. Basically it is personal opinion, it is also a theory of a theory (The theory that people are based on forms of government).--CaptainInsano 16:12, 12 December 2006 (PST)

Losties

But the thing is... Eko is there. And the pic was there just after the season had started. And I didn't even realize eko... myabe the pic shows the characters who are still living after series 2?

note

  • Hey did you revert all of the vandalism? Usually it's easy enough for me to single click to rollback each of his edits all in a row, but it looks like you did it. If so, then I won't go back and check. Also, if my talk page doesn't work, you can drop into our IRC Chat room to report vandalism. Thanks again. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  14:14, 15 December 2006 (PST)

Re: Dave

lol thanks, yeah i know about the internal link function. I just put it all there because i copied the link in case i needed it to add it to the list, but thanks :D lol --lewisg 15:16, 15 December 2006 (PST)

  • Just to answer the question you asked on lewisg's talk page: Articles that include the deuterocanon (DC) template aren't automatically added to the DC category because the DC template doesn't include a link to the DC category. That's a good thing, because if you look at the dozen or so pages that include the DC template, most of them do not belong in the DC category. - Cheers 15:37, 15 December 2006 (PST)
    • Personally I wouldn't touch anything, but that's because I'm too lazy to go and review all those articles, so I'm just assuming that the template is there for a reason. People may have their reasons for adding the template to some pages, while not wanting to add the page to the category. For example the template appears in some archived talk pages, user pages, etc... However, if you have the time and want to do it, you could review the articles that include the template and evaluate if it's appropriate or not on each of them. - Cheers 15:52, 15 December 2006 (PST)
      • Oh, I suppose it can be both specific and general. Specific, in that having a quick look at the list of pages linked to that template, I saw a few user pages and talk pages, and I didn't feel like reading the pages. General, in that the same is true in general: templates and categories don't necessarily go together. Users may use a template on pages for a number of reasons, including on pages that they don't want to include in the "corresponding" category. That's one reason why IMHO it's generally not a good idea to include category links into a template, unless we can be certain that the template will never be used on a page that shouldn't appear in the linked category. And since, in practice, that condition is rarely met, it seems better, more flexible, and overall more simple, to just add category links to articles on a case by case basis. - Cheers 20:17, 15 December 2006 (PST)

Democracy

  • Nah... not yet at least. I am seeing what other people think first.--CaptainInsano 13:22, 19 December 2006 (PST)

Re: Sig

Lol! no, I actually wasn't going for the incognito look :) You see I'm a Firefox user, and as soon as I read ur msg, I looked over the IE, and bingo! It seems the bckgrnd color I originally choose for the sig doesn't work on the IE, so I fixed it there to look that same over both. Thnx man for the info & btw, great work with the Rivalries :)-- 21:13, 19 December 2006 (PST)

Cite.php

Hi there, thanks for pointing out this discussion. I think I had seen this earlier but didn't comment, though I thought it was generally a good idea. One of the issues with the transcripts, however, is that I don't want to mess with the formating too much... they are sort of "special pages" on lostpedia, in that they are protected for a reason... they're the creations of Spooky, who only lets us use them out of generosity. Only two are by other regular lostpedia users (the most recent 2, by Silva & me respectively)... because they are very time consuming to make, I try and respect her wishes before making drastic changes to the formating. I personally like the citations idea and hope we can do something with it and the scripts so that it is not too intrusive to the appearance of the transcripts. As you can see from the discussion there, I suggested breaking them down by sections according to the commercial breaks, which she marks anyway. I think I'd be ok with other clear natural breaks, such as DVD divisions, but not by scene, unless you could get Spooky to agree to doing this. Just my 2 cents, at any rate. Oh, and on the location of the discussion, I think it's ok where it is, people who are interested will stop in. If we started one on the transcripts discussion page, there would just be duplicate points brought up, which makes for nonlinear discussions that are tough to follow; plus, fewer people just post around the holidays, so everything is slower on lostpedia. Take care! --PandoraX 13:26, 20 December 2006 (PST)

  • On the last 3, the "Every Man for Himself" transcript should have been, thanks for the reminder. I try to leave it up unprotected for a short while after she posts them so she can make grammatical changes herself, but after a week or two, I protect it, probably forgot that one. The other two are by Silva and myself, and we don't have any objections to people editing them (within reason), so I'll leave those as they are. --PandoraX 14:14, 20 December 2006 (PST)

Maybe I don't understand the problem, but if it is that some people object to the Act and Scene headings being visible on the page, can't we place them inside hidden text tags? Could that make everyone happy? - Cheers 16:35, 20 December 2006 (PST)

If you place the hidden heading after the blank line between two scenes, it will still show as the same blank line in the article but, if I'm not mistaken, the search function will still catch the anchor in the page code (however, I'm not sure if that works - you can test it on your scratchpaper page to see if it does). It would look like this (see in the edit window):
Text of transcript.
Text of transcript.
- Cheers 17:12, 20 December 2006 (PST)
  • That's a very good idea, I think. Would invisible text be an issue for those who want to use the citation anchors for referencing? --PandoraX 17:15, 20 December 2006 (PST)
  • Ah, it doesn't work, sorry. Oh, well. At least we tried.  :) - Cheers 17:45, 20 December 2006 (PST)
  • Aha! I finally got this to work. Differents tags, though. Example: User:Cheers/Sandbox#Act 2 scene 1 - Cheers 20:27, 20 December 2006 (PST)


AAA

Hey, I've decided to give ya the AAA for the work you did on the Kate article. Well done! Feel free to move this to your userpage, or maybe turn it into an infobox like User:Nomad did. Congrats again, {{Medal AAA|Beardog4314|Kate}} --Nickb123 (Talk) 15:10, 22 December 2006 (PST)


Re:Vandal

If its possible then its something only Admin can set up. There may be a plugin for it, but I know we don't use it, otherwise I think they'd have put a lid on "bob" usernames a long time ago --Nickb123 (Talk) 09:47, 18 January 2007 (PST)

sig

  • Thank you! I hadn't tested in in IE (only FF and Safari). I'll have to change it, thanks for the note. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  16:50, 22 January 2007 (PST)

RE: Quotes

No problem at all. No offenses were taken :). I'll take this time to point out that 99% of the folks here on Lostpedia are all very constructive and fun to collaborate with, and that includes you. Best of luck, --Dagg 16:36, 23 January 2007 (PST)


Re:EMOS

Firstly, loving the acronym. And yeah, I completely agree with what you're saying - there's definite conflicting schools of thought going on. I'd love to put forward one I've done and say "hey this is how I think it should be!" but I don't wanna come across as my way or the highway. I think though its such a difficult thing to pin down, its like trying to trap and categorise creative flair. I feel like saying "its either right or its not". I really am leaning towards the set writer(s) idea like they have for the transcripts, buts its a slippery slope I don't know if Lostpedia should skirt. The hardest part is hurting someone's feelings by saying "that could be written more eloquently" or "thats trivial", and lord knows I wouldn't like to hear it. We just have some serious issues with how we do our ep guides, and it is so much easier for Lost Wikia where like two people collaboratively do it all. So yeah, rant over, we do need dialogue on this to stop the edit fights, and that page sounds like a good place --Nickb123 (Talk) 15:35, 25 January 2007 (PST)

Lol yeah a good plan. And my stupid restriction idea was just for synopsis, not recurring themes or whatever else - I invisioned more a template under synopsis where the text is placed, and having the template itself protected. But yeah, I agree others would want a say in how the story is done. I think we should just do a guideline, and then just deal with the smaller number of individual issues we'd face afterwards --Nickb123 (Talk) 16:14, 25 January 2007 (PST)

Re: New feature?

Hey, sorry, I have no idea. I'm not the right one to ask about technical features. :P  ODK Talk   Sandbox 15:19, 26 January 2007 (PST)

Hey, it's just the number of characters, (e.g. letters) added or lost. Its a feature on the Recent Changes on Wikipedia, although they are colored. :P --Marik7772003 15:51, 26 January 2007 (PST)

Pointless Conversation

Good advice. He just winds me up I wasn't even having a conversation with him. I'll ignore him in future. Princess Dharma

Thanks for the link I was actually thinking about getting a signature. I'll do it tommorow aftera nice nap it seems tedious lol. Princess Dharma

America Misunderstanding=

I was misunderstood due to a redirect. Mr. Leaf fixed it for me. :-)--Princess Dharma (banned) 14:21, 5 February 2007 (PST)

Lol. I just wanted to make sure nobody thought of me as a racist I heard about the last arguement about Americans between Insano and God Emporer of Hell. --Princess Dharma (banned) 14:34, 5 February 2007 (PST)

Re: User and talk pages

Hey beardog, thanks. I've been noticing that for a while now, but I can't seem to fix it. I usually just ignore it, it dosn't affect the way I see the website or anything. Anyway, thanks for noticing. Cheers and namaste, --Gateboy42 12:14, 6 February 2007 (PST)

Gay?

I reckon Locke might be gay, or at least bi. I can't remember what episode it is but Jack just steps out of the shower and Locke checks him out. --Princess Dharma (banned) 12:35, 6 February 2007 (PST)

Tom

If I correctly understand your reasons on the page Talk:Tom (Mr. Friendly), I think you meant to write agree instead of disagree with Obi-Dan's suggestion which proposes to make it easier to find for all viewers instead of using an old and obscure production alias. (You disagreed with jabber's comment above yours, who disagreed with the Obi-Dan's rename, so you agreed with the rename, right?) -- Cheers 17:25, 6 February 2007 (PST)

Re: Cindy Chandler

Hey, yeah ok i see your point of view now. Always agree with the spoiler thing so okay. :) --lewisg 15:05, 7 February 2007 (PST)

American

It's O.K of course you can call yourself American it's just I think other inhabitants of the Americas should be able to call themselves American as well. --Princess Dharma (banned) 11:01, 9 February 2007 (PST)

This arguement as I am sure you are aware could rage on for hours and will unless something is done. Here is me ending the argument. People of Canada are North American and therefore American. I could never be called Eurasian because I am not Eurasian while Mexicans are American. --Princess Dharma (banned) 11:17, 9 February 2007 (PST)

How?

How do you make it so when you revert vandelism it says (Undo revision 195786 by Special:Contributions/Gowain (User talk:Gowain))? --Mr. Crabby (Talk) 12:05, 9 February 2007 (PST)

Thank You --Mr. Crabby (Talk) 12:10, 9 February 2007 (PST)

Fun

Yah, it gives me edits I know will be welcomed by Lostpedia. --Mr. Crabby (Talk) 12:16, 9 February 2007 (PST)

Thanks for ya reverting help --Nickb123 (Talk) 12:18, 9 February 2007 (PST)
Oh its a hobby --Nickb123 (Talk) 12:21, 9 February 2007 (PST)

Sorry I missed the last one - was shockingly having some non-computer time lol... looks like that doesn't apply to trolls --Nickb123 (Talk) 15:04, 9 February 2007 (PST)

RE: Leadership

My pleasure, actually the whole page is indeed a great piece that I applaud you for man, in addition to some seriously good work around!..Keep it up :)-- 16:41, 13 February 2007 (PST)

url

Are you sure that last URL addition you reverted was spam? I'm too lazy to look at the screencaps, but it seems plausible. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  16:57, 13 February 2007 (PST)

Bus

What makes you think this makes any sense?: "Locke was hit by the same bus that hit Edmund Burke. Perhaps Burke's impact slowed the bus to the point that Locke was merely paralyzed by it and not killed." (Besides, this was added by the same trollish dude who wrote some of the other crap you cleaned.) -- Cheers 09:28, 14 February 2007 (PST)

Ah, ok, I see. No problem. I was wondering if you had found some profound meaning to it.  :) -- Cheers 09:34, 14 February 2007 (PST)

Whisk(e)y

Well apparently it's a big deal how you spell and where it comes from - see the Whisky article in Wikipedia. It's not just a British/American thing, it's just that Scotch is spelled without the 'e'. And no, not sitewide - just the references to the particular one in "Flashes Before Your Eyes". Sorry if I'm being too picky, but I like accuracy! :) Bellemichelle 11:32, 15 February 2007 (PST)

Hah, I can't even recognize a joke! Looks like I need some of the stuff myself! Bellemichelle 12:05, 15 February 2007 (PST)

New Skin

Great! Thanks Beardog back to normals now. (still opposed to that new skin darn it!!!) :-) --Princess Dharma (banned) 10:53, 19 February 2007 (PST)

I know but I was thinking of visitors to the site who would experiencce problems they wouldn't know how to change it back or anything. This default one is nice and problem free I'm skepticle about the new one. --Princess Dharma (banned) 11:06, 19 February 2007 (PST)

Oh ok no worries. I just thought you were thinking that we might be suggesting "all our visitors on IE6 are gonna have to just change their browser and update to IE7". We ain't Microsoft Windows lol, we'd never do that! Anywayz no matter, but yeah we're waiting til IE6 version is fixed before even considering making it default. And for those who prefer monobook (even though they are very similar other than the pic at the top and the searchbar position) they can always change their skin preferences as a registered user. --Nickb123 (Talk) 13:27, 19 February 2007 (PST)

Theory

Thanks I didn't think of that page. To be honest I was so annoyed by the breaking of rule 6 that I wanted to post my disgust anyware. Lol. ^_^ Princess Dharma (banned) 04:21, 21 February 2007 (PST)

Your response to Willt18

Well I don't even want to begin on how thats completely incorrect. Dialect is the words you say, Accent is how you sound when you say it. Everyone has an accent, which varies from region to region. Dialect is also regional, but two regions with different accents can have similar dialects. Everyone is foreign to someone! American's use the same language as I do, but none of you sound "British" and Southern accents are very different from New York accents. Australian accents are very different from New Zealand accents. South African accents. We all use the same dialect, generally. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  08:53, 23 February 2007 (PST)

Well we've obviously found your pet hate Paul lol. I agree with Beardog's decision though, the comment was right to be removed --Nickb123 (Talk) 08:56, 23 February 2007 (PST)
Yeah the removal was fine.

Ok heres are regional example for here. My regional dialect for "you aren't going to do that are you?" is "you ay gewin to do that am ya?" but if i say either, i still have the same accent.... I wouldn't say the second one though, makes you sound like a common person... like your from manchester or something :P -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  09:03, 23 February 2007 (PST)

Cheap shot. If I was American, I'd sue you! --Nickb123 (Talk) 09:06, 23 February 2007 (PST)
Here's my point. If you go back to season one and watch Confidence Man, when Sawyer makes Kate read his note out loud, she reads the poor English like she is having trouble speaking that badly, especially when she reads "ain't". Zoom ahead to this weeks episode and she says "ain't" twice in a matter of a few minutes like she has said it all her life. My point is, in normal life, this wouldn't be a big deal, but if the writers go so far as to make it obvious, then it probably means something. That's why I wanted to put it in the unanswered questions section to see what other people thought. --

User:Willt18/sig 14:19, 23 February 2007 (PST)

The dialect/accent debate

Don't get me wrong, I'm not doing a Captain Insano. You were right to remove the content. However, you've got the two a lil mixed and I like nothing if not to educate (I work in Education :) )
Dialect is your lexicon of language. Regional words that are used across a country, or in some cases just in particular regions of a country. For example. If something in my city region is "bosting fittle" it means its great food, thats particular to my Region of the UK alone. You get national dialect too. A classic piece of British dialect is something like "bumming a fag" which in some places in the US, might get you hurt, but here, you are asking if you can have a cigarette to smoke from someone else.
The accent is the way a person delivers what they say, and world-wide they vary regionally. The Beatles accent is Liverpudlian, Ozzy Osbournes is a Birmingham accent, Dominic Monaghan's accent is Mancunian. Michael Caine is a Londoner. Because you know these places are in Britain, you know that accent is English. There is no one English accent, like there isn't one American one. The sound of a person from Alabama, the slow drawling sound is very different from the typical Hard agressive New York accent of someone like Robert DeNiro in Taxi Driver. Compare Sawyer's accent to Jack's for example. Two very different accents! :) -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  15:53, 23 February 2007 (PST)

Told ya not to get him started on accent and dialect... --Nickb123 (Talk) 16:13, 23 February 2007 (PST)
I'm just pinicky about things like that. I'll just damn Not a sore subject, I'm just going throught my mid 20's crisis. lol. Its all cool :) -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  17:30, 23 February 2007 (PST)
I like to think I'm fluent in both. I've not been to America as of yet, but when I do I plan to slip into American English so I don't stand out too badly! Its an elevator not a lift! :D -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  17:47, 23 February 2007 (PST)


Re

Lol I honestly don't mind - I'm objective :) - and no you didn't make an edit conflict --Nickb123 (Talk) 15:46, 28 February 2007 (PST)

Time outs

Nothing has changed this end. Ask Admin, see if he's done something site wide. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  12:24, 5 March 2007 (PST)

DST

  • Yes we partake in Day Light Savings time and are the same as the US. When you guys decided to move it ahead three week we followed because of two main reason, TV shows which we see a lot of your and international business. The Stock Exchange in Toronto (very big one) would start and end at different times as the New York one. In the end yes we followed you. And I believe that the wiki does not know this yet. As my time is set to EST -5:00 hours GMT, yet the wiki tells me it is currently 11:20 when I now in fact it is 12:00. This will of course correct itself in a couple weeks when it really does change but as of now it is a bit confusing.-Mr.Leaf 09:21, 15 March 2007 (PDT)
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