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| − | '''The Others''' are a group of people who lived on [[the Island]] before the [[crash]] of [[Oceanic Flight 815]]. Their origins and motives are currently unknown. Their relationship with the [[survivors]] has been antagonistic, kidnapping or "experimenting" on them, but only two killings have actually been committed by the Others against the [[survivors]] ([[Goodwin]] killing [[Nathan]], [[Ethan Rom|Ethan]] killing [[Scott Jackson|Scott]]). They reside in a [[The Barracks|community]] on [[the island]] and work on a small [[Hydra Island|second island]] nearby, in [[the Hydra]] station, where [[Jack]], [[Kate]], and [[Sawyer]] were taken captive. It appeared that Jack was taken to operate on [[Ben]]'s spine, while Kate and Sawyer were brought to convince Jack to do the operation, should he choose not to. The two survivors were kept in outside [[cage|cages]] and forced to [[Quarry|haul rocks]] during the day. |
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| − | ==About the Others == |
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| − | ===Names=== |
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| − | [[Image:1x07 locke.JPG|right|thumb|[[Locke]], pointing to where the other people on the Island came from.]] |
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| − | Although they're known under various names ("Them", "[[Hostiles]]"), their current nickname - the Others - was coined by [[Danielle Rousseau]] when she claimed to [[Sayid]] that they had taken her daughter [[Alexandra]] [[16]] years prior. Rousseau, at the time she met [[Sayid]], claimed she had never seen the people now known as the others. She described the [[whispers]] as being the only contact she had with the others. The term has since been claimed by both fans and writers as the unofficial name for the group. It is however worth noting that the term 'others' is entirely contextual; for example, it's been pointed out in the show that everyone is an 'other' to Rousseau in essence, as well as the [[Losties]], who of course could be correctly referred to as 'others' by the Others. Further examples include:<br> |
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| − | *[[Jin]] says to Sun, "Don't worry about the Others", referring to the other castaways. {{crossref|1x01}}<br> |
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| − | *On occasion, Jack also refers to other castaways as "the Others".<br> |
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| − | *When Jin encounters the "[[Tailies]]," he calls them "Others." (This example may be a bit complicated, since Jin probably mistook them for the "real" Others.) {{crossref|2x02}}<br> |
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| − | *[[Ana-Lucia]] refers to those who have been kidnapping her group not as "Others", but as "Them". (Since she had not met with any of the main group of survivors, she had not adopted Rousseau's name) <br> |
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| − | *After [[Colleen]]'s [[Life and Death|death]], [[Danny Pickett|Danny]] believes the [[Losties]] are responsible, saying that "they did this". {{crossref|3x04}} <br> |
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| − | *[[Desmond]] refers to a group as "the hostiles," which [[Kelvin]] mentioned in the Hatch {{crossref|2x23}}. <br> |
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| − | *When Ben goes into surgery, Pickett says that Ben has just put his life in the hands of "one of them" {{crossref|3x06}}. |
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| − | *[[Mikhail Bakunin]], while still pretending to be the last [[DHARMA initiative]] [[survivors|survivor]], refers to a group as Hostiles. Later, [[Marvin Candle]]/[[Mark Wickmund]], in the [[video]] recording at the [[Flame Station]], also refers to a group of people whom the initiative were at war with as Hostiles. {{crossref|3x11}} |
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| − | It is assumed that this group is the same as the Others. It has been confirmed by [[Damon Lindelof]] that there is more than one faction within the Others. |
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| − | ===Kidnappings=== |
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| − | [[Image:MichaelsPaper.jpg|thumb|150px|right|The list given to Michael]] |
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| − | The kidnapping of Alex was not the last abduction made by the Others. [[Claire]] was abducted by [[Ethan]] for the purpose of obtaining [[Aaron]]. [[Charlie]] was also taken with [[Claire]], but he was hanged and later revived by [[Jack]] and [[Kate]]. [[Walt]] was taken seemingly because he had talents in which the Others were very interested. {{crossref|2x23}} |
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| − | In a matter of two weeks, 12 of the [[Tailies]] were missing from their camp thanks to [[Goodwin]]. [[Cindy]], another Tailie, disappeared later. {{crossref|2x07}} |
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| − | [[Michael]] was captured when attempting to rescue [[Walt]], but was then set free with his son and told to follow a compass bearing of [[325]]. The Others kept [[Jack]], [[Kate]], and [[Sawyer]] as hostages in [[the Hydra]], but allowed [[Hurley]] to return as a messenger when they were at the [[Pala Ferry]]. {{crossref|2x22|2x23}} |
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| − | ===Ways of Living=== |
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| − | :{{main|the Barracks}} |
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| − | [[Image:3X01 TheOthersOtherville.jpg|left|thumb|180px|[[Juliet]], [[Ben]] and the other Others watch [[the crash]] at the ''Barracks''.]] |
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| − | It was first presumed that the Others are "savages" and "hillbillies". However, in [[Season 2]], this proved to be part of an elaborate illusion; [[Kate]] discovered a locker containing a [[fake beard]] and theatrical glue. {{crossref|2x15}} Later, Tom appeared a couple times without his beard, <small>({{ep|2x15}} and {{ep|2x23}})</small>. <br /> |
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| − | Upon his return, [[Michael]] claimed that there are only about 22 Others, most of them old and/or women, who lived on [[Decoy Village|huts]] in miserable conditions like the crash survivors, and fed on dried fish; this is part of the facade. {{crossref|2x20}} Walt said that the Others are "pretending," and that "they're not who they say they are." {{crossref|2x22}} |
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| − | [[Image:Minor_Others.jpg|right|thumb|Some Others, looking like "savages"]] |
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| − | The fact that the Others are more civilized than they appear was hinted at in [[Season 2]], but was revealed explicitly in the [[Season 3]] premiere; the Others live in a small idyllic town inside of a crater.{{crossref|3x01}} They have access to [[guns]], tasers, crude explosives, a bolas, U.S. army knives, a [[submarine]], a [[The Others' yacht|yacht]], a motor [[The Others' boat|boat]] which they gave to Michael, and [[Sailboat ("Elizabeth")|Desmond's sailboat]]. |
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| − | ===Leadership=== |
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| − | :{{main|Leadership}} |
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| − | [[Image:3X05 BenJuliet.jpg|right|thumb|A struggle for power between [[Ben]] and [[Juliet]].]] |
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| − | It seems that prior to [[The crash|the plane crash]], there had occurred some shift in power and governing strategy in the Others' society. [[Juliet]] makes multiple references to democracy and equality as important values that she and the other Others live by, both in the opening scenes of [[season three]] ([[The Book Club|the book club]]) as well as in her many talks with Jack.<br /> |
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| − | [[Ben]] has been confirmed as the community's leader, and has the charisma and power to make people follow him, but that there also is an ongoing struggle of ideals between him and Juliet (as a symbol for a clean, uncorrupted - utopian - form of democracy). In her [[Juliet's tape|video]], Juliet revealed to [[Jack]] that "some of us want change", because Ben "is a liar" and "very dangerous". It seems as though there are two "political" groups within the Others - Juliet’s and Ben's. However, the details of Juliet's past seem to indicate that her role in the community and motivations are very different from Ben's, who claims he was born there. |
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| − | ===Good People=== |
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| − | :{{main|Good and bad people}} |
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| − | [[Image:Normal maternity-promo18.jpg|thumb|left|[[Ethan]] tells [[Claire]] that the Others are good people.]] |
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| − | The concept of Goodness seems to be very important to the Others as they themselves claim to be good people even after kidnapping and killing various [[castaways]]. This sets up an odd paradox, as [[Benjamin]] told [[Locke]] he was one of the "good ones", and implied that other Losties (i.e. [[Jack]], [[Kate]], [[Sawyer]]) were not "good" and they are the ones who were taken. The Others seem to only abduct those they believe to be "''good people''". |
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| − | The Others claim to be better at [[Cons|conning]] than Sawyer. While deception is their main trick, they have a mixed record when it comes to deceiving the castaways. [[Hurley]] figured out [[Ethan]] was an Other, [[Ana-Lucia]] figured out [[Goodwin]] was an Other, [[Sayid]] figured out [[Ben]] and [[Mikhail]] were Others, [[Kate]] figured out [[Tom]] had a [[false beard]], and [[Jack]] shocked the Others by making Ben a medical hostage. |
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| − | ===Connection with DHARMA=== |
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| − | [[Mikhail Bakunin]], an Other, was running "''the [[Flame]]''" communications station for the Others. In performing that task, he wore the clothing of the [[DHARMA Initiative]], and pretended to be the last member of the DHARMA team on the island. |
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| − | When Sayid and his expedition discovered the Flame, and Mikhail as well, he told them that all personnel of the Initiative died in a war with the "[[Hostiles]]", known as "[[the purge]]". He claimed he arrived on [[the Island]] around 1993 by [[submarine]]. He also mentioned that the Hostiles have been on the island for a very long time. |
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| − | All of this information was given before he revealed himself as an Other, so it is unknown if he was telling the truth or not. In the station's basement, [[Bea Klugh]] was found, after she reached the station with a [[Others' horse|horse]], possibly to warn Mikhail about the survivors. |
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| − | ==Members== |
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| − | <br>Below is a list of all of the Others that have been introduced into the show.<br><br> |
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| − | | [[Image:MaleMini.JPG|center]] |
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| − | | "[[Him]]" |
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| − | | Prominent |
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| − | | Supposed leader of the Others (as claimed by [[Ben]] and [[Mikhail Bakunin]], hinted by [[Tom]]). It is speculated his name may be "[[Jacob]]". |
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| − | | [[Image:Henry_GaleMini.JPG|center]] |
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| − | | [[Benjamin Linus]] (aka the faux [[Henry Gale (original)|Henry Gale]]) |
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| − | | Prominent |
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| − | | Leader of the Others. Taken captive by the [[mid-section]] losties and eventually freed by [[Michael]]. Had a [[tumor]] on his spine, which was later removed by [[Jack]], in exchange for presumably getting off the island. Known by the Others as [[Alex]]'s father. |
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| − | | [[Image:JulietMini.jpg|center]] |
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| − | | [[Juliet Burke]] |
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| − | | Prominent |
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| − | | Fertility doctor. Has some degree of authority, though subordinate to and antagonistic relation with [[Ben]]. Has been on the Island for 3 years, 2 months and 28 days. Interrogated [[Jack]]. Shot [[Danny Pickett|Danny]] and helped [[Kate]], [[Sawyer]] and [[Karl]] to escape in exchange for being allowed to go "home"; was sentenced to be executed but instead was "marked" as punishment. |
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| − | | [[Image:Mini-TomFriendly.jpg|center]] |
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| − | | [[Tom]] (aka Mr. Friendly) |
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| − | | Prominent |
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| − | | Appears to be a spokesman/enforcer of the Others. Has some degree of authority. Used to wear a [[fake beard]] during his encounters with the [[mid-section]] losties. |
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| − | | [[Isabel]] |
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| − | | Prominent |
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| − | | Was referred to as "the sheriff" by [[Tom]]. She seems to be right under [[Ben]] in the Others' hierarchy. Investigated [[Danny]]'s murder case, and decided to execute [[Juliet]], but was stopped by [[Ben]]. Left the [[Hydra Island]] with the rest of the Others. She speaks Cantonese (though with a poor accent). |
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| − | | [[Alexandra Rousseau]] |
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| − | | Prominent |
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| − | | [[Danielle Rousseau]]'s kidnapped daughter. While raised by the Others, Alex's actions indicate she's attempting or willing to undermine the actions of the Others; this includes her interest in what happened to [[Karl]]. Does not share their ruthlessness. Has a love interest in [[Karl]]. Seems to be [[Ben]]'s daughter. |
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| − | | [[Karl]] |
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| − | | Prominent |
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| − | | Was imprisoned in [[the Hydra]] [[cages]], and was later moved to [[Room 23]]. Has a love interest in Alexandra Rousseau. He escaped the [[Hydra Island]] with [[Kate]] and [[Sawyer]]. |
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| − | | [[Amelia]] |
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| − | | Minor |
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| − | | A member of [[Juliet]]'s [[Book Club]]. |
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| − | | [[Adam (Other)|Adam]] |
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| − | | Minor |
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| − | | A member of the [[book club]], appears to be extremely loyal to [[Ben]]. |
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| − | | [[Brian (Other)|Brian]] |
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| − | | Minor |
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| − | | He radioed [[Colleen]] to inform her and the rest of the Others that the [[losties]] have a [[sailboat]]. |
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| − | | [[Ivan]] |
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| − | | Minor |
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| − | | Seen in medical garb in the [[Hydra]] operating room, chasing [[Kate]] and [[Sawyer]] in {{ep|3x07}}, and other action sequences in Season 3. |
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| − | | [[Jacob]] |
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| − | | Minor |
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| − | | According to [[Danny Pickett|Danny]], "[[Jack Shephard|Shephard]] wasn't even on Jacob's [[list]]." He may be a prominent Other. |
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| − | | [[Jason (Other)|Jason]] |
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| − | | Minor |
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| − | | An Other who appears to be some kind of a bodyguard. He assisted [[Matthew]] while injecting something to [[Sawyer]], accompanied [[Ben]] and Sawyer on their journey, guarded Jack while he attended [[Colleen]]'s funeral and went with Pickett to Sawyer's [[cage]]. He was chasing [[Kate]] and [[Sawyer]] after they escaped their cages. |
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| − | | [[Matthew]] |
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| − | | Minor |
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| − | | Administers an injection into Sawyer's chest. |
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| − | | [[Aldo]] |
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| − | | Minor |
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| − | | Guards part of the Hydra facility. Was reading "[[A Brief History of Time]]" before he was attacked by [[Kate]], [[Sawyer]] and [[Alex]]. |
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| − | | [[Luke]] |
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| − | | Minor |
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| − | | Was at the [[quarry]] and was seen talking to [[Juliet]]. He was later elbowed by [[Sawyer]] in his escape attempt. |
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| − | | Three kidnappers (2 men, 1 woman) |
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| − | | Unnamed |
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| − | | Killed by Mr. Eko and Ana Lucia when they came to kidnap people. |
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| − | | Molotov Woman |
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| − | | Unnamed |
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| − | | Destroys the Second Raft during Walt's kidnapping. |
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| − | | The Twins |
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| − | | Unnamed |
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| − | | Seen during Walt's kidnapping alongside Tom and "the Molotov woman". |
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| − | | Two men tailing the four survivors on the list traveling with Michael. |
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| − | | One was shot and killed by Sawyer. |
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| − | | Four people at the Book Club meeting |
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| − | | Two men and two women. |
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| − | | Many people at the [[Decoy village|beachside camp]], at the [[Quarry|work yard]], in [[the Staff]] and at the [[Barracks]]. |
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| − | | Unnamed |
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| − | | These are Others that are currently extras or are insignificant at this point. |
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| − | | [[Ethan Rom]] |
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| − | | Deceased |
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| − | | Killed by [[Charlie]]. Pretended to be one of the [[mid-section]] survivors; kidnapped [[Claire]] and Charlie in order to obtain [[Aaron]]. He met Juliet before arriving on the Island, and seemed to be part of the [[Mittelos Bioscience]] laboratory. Ben tells Jack that he was a surgeon. |
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| − | | [[Goodwin]] |
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| − | | Deceased |
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| − | | Killed by [[Ana-Lucia]]. Infiltrated the [[tail section]] survivors. |
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| − | | [[Danny Pickett]] |
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| − | | Deceased |
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| − | | He does not seem to be an authority figure, although he is foreman on the [[Quarry|rock clearing]] operation. Married to [[Colleen]], who calls him 'Danny'. Seems to be a violent person, even before kicking [[Sawyer]] in the chest repeatedly ({{ep|2x23}}) and later beating him again ({{ep|3x04}}). Pickett was killed by [[Juliet]] so that [[Kate]] and [[Sawyer]] could escape in {{ep|3x07}}. |
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| − | | [[Colleen]] |
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| − | | Deceased |
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| − | | Shot by Sun in Desmond's boat when the Others took the boat from the Pala Ferry pier. Jack and Juliet were trying to save her in the Hydra's medical section, but her life couldn't be saved. Married to Danny. |
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| − | | [[Bea Klugh]] |
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| − | | Deceased |
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| − | | Killed by [[Mikhail]]. Made a deal with [[Michael]] to free [[Benjamin Linus]]. Had some degree of authority. |
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| − | | [[Mikhail Bakunin]] |
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| − | | Deceased |
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| − | | Other who was stationed at [[The Flame]], and was in charge of communications. Killed [[Bea Klugh]] on her order; then was captured and held in the custody of [[Locke]], [[Sayid]], [[Kate]], and [[Danielle Rousseau]] and was pushed by Locke into the Other's security perimeter. |
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| − | == Unanswered questions == |
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| − | {{NavMinor-Unanswered}} |
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| − | * Who are the Others? |
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| − | * What is the purpose of the Others? |
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| − | * Why are the Others so unwilling to explain themselves openly to the Losties? |
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| − | * Why are the Others so hostile? |
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| − | * Where did the Others originate? |
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| − | * Why are the Others interested in [[children]]? |
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| − | * Why did Ben/Henry downplay the [[Swan]] Station and encourage [[Locke]] to let the timer run down? |
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| − | * Why don't the Others understand the [[Discharge]]? |
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| − | * What is their link to [[Mittelos Bioscience]]? |
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| − | * Why do they not leave any tracks? |
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| − | * If they wanted [[Jack]], [[Kate]], and [[Sawyer]] why didn't they just take them when they first captured [[Michael]] as they could have sent [[Locke]] back as a witness instead of [[Hurley]] doing that same thing later on? |
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| − | * Is there an organization separate of the Hanso Foundation/DHARMA Initiative that recruits for the others on the outside? |
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| − | * Why was the dispute between the DHARMA Initiative and the Others known as "the purge"? |
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| − | * Why did they dress up in dirty clothes when they met with the Losties? |
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