Pregnancy Test

The pregancy test was on the airplane because one of the losties is also recently pregnant.

I assume this refers to Claire. She knew she was pregnant when she boarded the plane, so why would she need it?

Claire was on her third trimester, she wouldn't need a test. It does seem a little odd that there was a preg-test on the plane, unless someone was stockpiling for her LA trip. Then again, a little odd doesn't mean it's odd enough for to mean something. Productionwise they had a character who's pregnancy needed to be proofed, could be the only reason and explanation for the test. --skks 22:47, 23 March 2006 (PST)

I originally figured that the test came from the hatch. But then I realised that wouldn't make any sense, and even if it was - it would have been Dharma branded. I don't believe it's too unlikely that someone would be carrying a test. Perhaps a promiscuous lady, or maybe it was part of the plane's medkit (I've seen tests in medkits before). Though I'm not sure that the origin of the test is that important, it probably just happened to be on the plane because it was needed for the story.

--Rayne 21:06, 29 April 2006 (PDT) Besides, it's not the most far-fetched find they've had... Remember Sayid's line "Thank God for fireworks smugglers" to explain where he got bottle rockets during ep1.7? Sometimes the reality gets stretchy to make all the ends meet...--Beardog4314 14:25, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

Merge

Thought it was sensible to merge these as Widmore Construction wasn't getting much attention and it's clear the two are connected. Cap from FIRE+WATER wanted! --skks 04:21, 12 April 2006 (PDT)


M:I III

ive heard that widmore labs is mentioned in mission impossible 3. --Cool Man 0912 12:30, 21 April 2006 (PDT)

The site

I'm pretty sure this site is done by this guy.. http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=534958&postcount=68 --rlangst 27 April 2006 (PDT)

having the website on the page

we need to decide if we want the website on the atricle page, skks removed it, then only a few minutes late BC re-added it. The website is obviosly non-cannon so is it appropriate? Koolaidman 14:24, 27 April 2006 (PDT)


From widmorelaboratories.com:

Caution: This is a real site.  
If this wasn't a real site you couldn't be here.
This site is also officially unofficial, whatever that means.
If you don't want your mind expanded beyond 27 diagonal inches,
you should leave immediately.

There's also yahoo ads on the site which means someone is making money from every hit the page gets, to me, nothing on this site sounds like Disney. --skks 17:02, 27 April 2006 (PDT)

ok, so for future editors DONT PLACE WIDMORELABORATORIES.COM ON THE ARTICLE, thank you Koolaidman 17:04, 27 April 2006 (PDT)

So what if it's not Disney??? The writers have already used fan ideas for actual plot in the show (for example, the "everything is in Hurley's head" episode). Why not allow Lostpedia to include EVERYTHING about Lost, not just "officially sanctioned by Disney Corporation" material? All we would have to do would be to label that material as fanfiction or non-canonical or something, right? What's the harm in this??? -- BC 13:57, 28 April 2006 (PDT)

I'm actually in favor of removing all non-cannon websites, they are not run by ABC and are therefore not important to the lost plot. S. K. Nave site for instance has almost no importance to lost fandom, and the Valenzetti website is registereed to a guy names Gavin, not enrico... Its all a bunch of stupid useless lies Koolaidman 14:34, 28 April 2006 (PDT)

You know it's pretty easy to verify which sites are legit and which aren't. Use WHOIS! For example, WIDMORE.COM is owned by ABC, whilst WIDMORELABORATORIES.COM is not. For example,

WHOIS Search Results for: WIDMORE.COM

Registrant:
ABC, Inc.
77 West 66th Street
New York, New York 10023
United States

Registered through: Chapter Zero Domains
Domain Name: WIDMORE.COM
Created on: 07-Feb-06
Expires on: 07-Feb-07
Last Updated on: 07-Feb-06

Administrative Contact:
Inc, ABC admin@widmore.com

Compare to WidmoreLaboratories.com which most definitely is not legititimate:

Domain Name.......... widmorelaboratories.com
Creation Date........ 2006-03-24
Registration Date.... 2006-03-24
Expiry Date.......... 2007-03-24
Organisation Name.... adrian brisee
Organisation Address. po box 273
Organisation Address. 
Organisation Address. Irwin
Organisation Address. 51446
Organisation Address. IA
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Basic rule of thumb - it is legit if it can be traced back to either ABC, Disney, Hyperion or BigSpaceship.com (*note* that isn't the same as fakers BigSpaceShip1.org) who designed the official Lost sites (as you can see in their Portfolio > Interactive Marketing section).

Probably good to take the "unverified" off widmore.com when the site starts up properly, eh?

-- Radharc 01:03, 30 April 2006 (GMT)

I already proved widmore.com was a fake please see the widmore.com article. Koolaidman 17:51, 29 April 2006 (PDT)
No you didn't. Your arguments were that the DNS and the registrant info weren't the same as with abc.com, however none of the other official sites have the same dns or even the registrant, well, except widmore.com who's registrant is down to the address the same as with abc.com. --skks 18:12, 29 April 2006 (PDT)
New evidence -- no privacy stament or copyright info, if it were official that would have been the first thing put on the site. also no doctype or Metas which are essential for valid webpages, missing these is not a mistake Abc's webdesigners would make.Koolaidman 19:43, 29 April 2006 (PDT)

Also, Widmore.com betterwhois check, shows the underlying domain:

Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
Name Server: CZ2.CHAPTERZEROHOSTING.COM
Name Server: CZ1.CHAPTERZEROHOSTING.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 07-feb-2006
Creation Date: 07-feb-2006
Expiration Date: 07-feb-2007

Not total proof, but probably a fanfake. LOSTonthisdarnisland 11:13, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

  • Er, that's not proof of anything... Wild West Domains Inc. (sister company of GoDaddy) is the Registrar... not the Registrant. The Registrar registers the name on behalf of the Registrant. In this case it would appear that Wild West Domains Inc. registered the site on behalf of ABC Inc... and there is no reason for them to put up a privacy statement or copyright info on what appears to be essentially a placeholder site (if Widmore is indeed owned by ABC). Why would you need a privacy statement if you are not collecting any data from visitors? Hanso doesn't have a privacy policy either... Bottom line is that it is possible to spoof a DNS registry, but I can't imagine ABC wouldn't have already initiated a lawsuit if someone was registering Domain Names and passing themselves off as ABC Inc. Besides, ABC has been doing some crazy stuff with their DNS registries. Do a WHOIS on thehansofoundation.org... by all accounts Hanso is a real company; the site isn't even connected to ABC in anyway based on the WHOIS. Domain names and server space are cheap... I can see ABC slapping something out there and then just sitting on it for a bit. All in all, it is completely inconclusive whether or not this is a fan fake/officially sanctioned site.--Isotope23 11:31, 12 May 2006 (PDT)
  • Yes, of course it's the registrar. That's what happens when ye post in the wee hours :S LOSTonthisdarnisland 05:41, 13 May 2006 (PDT)

harry widmore

Where did the name "harry widmore" come from? I probably missed it. --Ernest 10:48, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

Novel widmores

I just finished Bad Twin and about halfway through the book it dawned on me, are the widmores in the book really real midmore members in the lost universe). I know troup mentioned that he likes to use real companies and characters in his novels but it seems sort of wierd that he would have 3 actual people (again in his universe) as major characters in his novel. I dont know, the whole book was kinda sketchy, but it was good.Kman.png       talk contribs                   13:01, 22 May 2006 (PDT)

My working theory, until proven or disproven, is that the Widmore's in the book are not real Widmores per se, but that they are based on real Widmores with different names. In this way, the book remains fictional, but draws on the 'real' world. Much like many TV shows and movies that are 'based on actualy events' but still considered fiction. Gatekeeper 13:05, 22 May 2006 (PDT)
I guess if Cahrles Widmore turnes out to be the head of the American company then all bets are off and the widmores are "made up", this whole fiction ion fiction is messing with my head. Kman.png       talk contribs                   13:07, 22 May 2006 (PDT)

Libby?

Where is the idea that Libby also owns the Widmore company coming from? It's posted twice on the page but then contradicted by someone else - this seems really unclear. Would like to know source of this. Octavius 13:39, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

Honestly, I'm as confused about it as you are. I've seen the theory all over the place that Libby is a Widmore, owns the Widmore corporation, etc.. I haven't seen anything factual supporting this though. My guess is it was an unsubstantiated leak that never proved out. I may have been the guilty party in perpetuating that to this page -- I initially created the family members section mostly due to some pages I was working on re: Bad Twin and the news that they would be starting to appear in the finale, I copied that theory from Libby's page. Maybe it's time to remove some of those theories, I'm certainly open to it since there seems to be little to no support GateKeeper 13:52, 25 May 2006 (PDT)
I thought we were supposed to see her called mrs widmore etc in the finale but i didn't here it at all. Kman.png       talk contribs                   13:54, 25 May 2006 (PDT)
Well, the three of us seem to agree, so I've removed her from the family members section, but left the theory since that's all it seems to be at this point. I'm tempted to go even further and remove it entirely since it's more a baseless guess than a theory at this point, but it seems to be a pretty wide spread thought. GateKeeper 14:11, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

clue??

if you go to this site; http://www.widmoregroup.com/corporate.htm

look at the background BEHIND the pictures. There's some kind of muttled text behind Mittelwerk's picture. Can anyone find out what the heck that says?

I think it just says "Widmore Group". But as it seems to be a fansite, I'm not inclined to believe there's anything of significance there. Especially no Cooper bring present. --Wintermute 06:43, 10 July 2006 (PDT)

Daddy---?

Also, on the site linked above, Anthony B. Cooper is Locke's father.

Removed Speculations

As per this site's theory policy, speculations don't belong in the article. If these are more than just speculation, please provide references of facts leading to these conclusions:

  • It may be something like ACME
  • Michael worked for Widmore Construction.
  • Widmore Labs provides the DHARMA Initiative with medicines and chemicals. It is also responsible for the quality of the DHARMA-branded food.
  • May have sponsored Desmond's "race around the world".
  • The company was owned by Charles and Libby.
  • Libby is a Widmore.
    • Assuming Libby was not lying to Desmond in "Live together, Die alone", Libby has nothing to do with the Widmores.
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