Come on, we need a better synopsis than this! --SilvaStorm 04:52, 1 July 2006 (PDT)

Unanswered Question

This should be deleted. It's not an Unanswered Question anymore.--Marksman1 13:06, May 27, 2010 (UTC)


Agreed. Added rewrite template. Even a short summary is good, but this is too short, and too general, with an odd choice of specific information (Joanna is not relevant to the Lost storyline).

Suggestion: Create two sections, Island and Flashback, and write a brief summary for each. With the new ABC wiki in full swing, we simply have to be better than this. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk 01:42, 8 October 2006 (PDT)

I'm on it! Don't stop me! -- Ohmyn0 13:35, 22 October 2006 (PDT)

...and I just rewrote it to. Oh dear. Anyway, it's far from perfect, but I just wanted to bulk it out, so that people can make minor edits if they wish, rather than having to do the whole episode. Removed the 'urgent rewrite' tag. Pictures would be good, if anyone has some to insert. Falesaif 14:08, 22 October 2006 (PDT)

Good rewrite. Added a counter-theory about the hallucination, to keep its feet on the ground, so to speak. Falesaif 15:19, 22 October 2006 (PDT)

Speaking of fate Jack saves the "doll" from drowning later on in the episode, he was too late for the girl and his father. This is also a cultural reference, possibly, to Kubrick's The Shining where a black teddy bear doll is found exactly where Halloran gets killed later on.

About Christian's death, does Jack know he is alive (in his own head by the end of this episode) or does he really not care anyway, there's no funeral for him to stress about. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kubrick (talkcontribs) 18:14, 27 November 2008.

Jack's speech

Jack's speech at the end of the episode about being united contains the names of two future episode titles: Live Together, Die Alone and Every Man For Himself. I agree "every man for himself" is quite a common phrase, but the former isn't. I've hunted about to see if this information is written down elsewhere but didn't see any mention, but I'm sorry if it is. Just thought it was an interesting coincidence. Falesaif 13:13, 22 October 2006 (PDT)

I think they are reoccuring themes in the show.. but I will mention them in my re-write. -- Ohmyn0 13:35, 22 October 2006 (PDT)
Yeah, that's true - is there some sort of ordered list of this sort of thing? Falesaif 14:10, 22 October 2006 (PDT)
List of regularly spoken phrases, List of recurring themes -- Cheers 15:05, 22 October 2006 (PDT)

Production/Writing Error

I was watching "White Rabbit" today, and I came across a production/writing error with Charlie. When Charlie calls to Jack about the woman who is drowning, Charlie says he cannot go out because he doesn't know how to swim. However, he was able to swim quite well in "Greatest Hits", when he swam down to the Looking Glass. -- RBKeane, June 23, 2007

He say "I don't", not "I can't". This is different things, probably he is afraid of swimming. The Fuselage discussion --Znch 09:25, 7 July 2007 (PDT)

Don't Agree

I don't think this was an oversight. After Des started changing Charlie's future, a number of things changed. Kate's freckles also disappeared; after the time Sawyer walked in on her as she was changing and almost said "Freckles" (until he realized she was topless), he never calls her Freckles again, and all the close-up shots of Kate after that point look like she's wearing some kind of cover-up; her prominent freckles are gone.

This very well may be because when Des saved Charlie and changed the future, he was also changing the past and present. This is due to the nature of spacetime in physics, also called Minkowski space (which has been accepted for decades). Minkowski space is addressed in a few texts referenced directly or obliquely in Lost: A Wrinkle in Time, Slaughterhouse Five, and Watchmen. It's also the name of the man on the freighter at the end of season three.

--Jeff 21:20, 24 February 2009 (UTC)== Charlie as a swimmer ==

  • Charlie is not a good swimmer, and he was lying to Jack in Greatest Hits. Evidence: (1) Charlie was saved from drowning by Desmond, a better swimmer, when Claire caught an undertow. (2) Desmond asks if Charlie can really hold his breath for 4 minutes; Charlie confirms it was a lie by asking if the answer really matters (i.e., Charlie was supposed to die to save everyone) (3) Charlie states he is not a swimmer in this episode. All three points confirm that this is consistant, and therefore, I've removed becuase it's not a blooper or a UA. -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 18:54, 24 March 2008 (PDT)

Charlie may have been high or going through withdrawal at the time (he was very sweaty and agitated), which would not be a very good condition to be in to go for a swim, regardless of his ability or lack thereof.--Paleored 20:01, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

References to future episodes

This article has a lot of references to later episodes in it. I thought we were trying to avoid that to not spoil newer readers who may not have watched later episodes yet?--Jeff 21:20, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Reference to Hamlet

When Jack finds the drowned doll in the caves, it looks a lot like paintings about the death of Ophelia, a character from Hamlet, in which the main character sees the ghost of his dead father.

Worst Goof Ever

I was watching this episode (for my absolute first time) and I incurred in a really evident goof, indeed one of the worse I've ever seen; it's quite strange that no one saw this one, so for the moment I'll just write a note here (I'm Italian, so I am a little shy when it comes to write in english on a wiki page). At about 8:30 (on the Blu Ray version, i guess it is the same timing of the "normal" version anyway), there is a dialogue between Kate and Claire. Kate gives Claire a bottle of water, and the fact is emphatized by the actual lack of water; then, Claire begins to drink from the bottle, but as the shot changes, it il clearly visible the profile of Claire without any trace of the bottle left. I noticed it immediately, because there is a really evident visual "cut" between the two shots.

--ZioFeda 00:16, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Cliff Scene Microphone and Water

Looking closely at the scene where Locke is pulling Jack up from the cliff, I see a black shadow move across Jack's head (Actually it's Jack's head that moves through the shadow). This shadow may or may not be from a microphone, but is not the microphone itself. The shadow is seen only on Jack's head and does not continue to the top of the screen.

Also, the stream below is dry. What looks like there may be very small areas of water may also be shadows. The sun is to the left and all shadows in the scene are to the right. Even if there was a small amount of water, how would they get down there? Fortunately, Jack found water that was readily accessible.--Paleored 20:16, November 12, 2010 (UTC)










It doesn't look like we ever discussed this article's picture.

The current one's all right. But Jack looks just a little too dumbfounded. Bordering on dumb. And it's not quite as close a shot as it could be.

What if we replaced it with a shot from his as Locke's "everything that happened happened for a reason" conversation, the one that lent the episode its name? Here are some stills from that scene: --- Balk Of Fametalk 21:23, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

I prefer picture 3. It's not too close or too far away. Perfect. Julietfan2626 Talk Blogs 22:34, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
I don't really have an issue with the current picture, but I do like the idea of using an image from the scene in which the episode takes its title from. And yeah, it can do with being a little closer on Jack. 3 or 4 are good to me.--Baker1000 00:22, February 14, 2012 (UTC)
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