If it was a placebo..[]
Why bother injecting Claire's baby? Perhaps it was a scare tactic to convince her that the baby needed vaccination. But they had her drugged, presumably to make her more complient. It seemed to me she would have agreed to anything.
So, I reckon that the substance has some effect on those who take it.
I believe it has something to do with the telepathy. There seem to be multiple groups of 'others', one of these groups might be 'remote viewers; (aka, the whispers). Perhaps this drug prevents inteference by psychics, or helps to promote psychic abilities in the subject.
Though it could easily be a vitamin supplement.
--Rayne 08:57, 30 April 2006 (PDT)
What happened to the cache of this drug stored in Swan?
--skks 11:08, 7 March 2006 (PST)
- Desmond took them with him. --Piscez 03:49, 18 May 2006 (PDT)
Should the stub tag be removed from this article? It seems pretty comprehensive to me.
Should the sentence "Could have GND in hospital because claire might have been administered Cocain to keep her calm and under control"" be removed. it makes no sense to me. If not, it should be explained better
The cocaine/GND angle comes from RX-1 GND. Don't buy it myself. --skks 08:19, 12 March 2006 (PST)
Cocaine[]
...is a stimulant, using a stimulant to calm someone wouldn't be my first choice, but maybe the others see it differently. --skks 06:00, 25 April 2006 (PDT)
Vial of Science Vial of Faith[]
If Ethan was a believer in the sickness, he injected Aaron for the same reason Charlie baptized him: because he believed he was saving the child. If Ethan was not a believer in the sickness, he was trying to convince Claire, and make her a believer.
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Liking the new theory:
"There is no sickness. It is a hoax; to get people to take the medicine. Which makes the taker susceptible to suggestion. In Maternity Leave every time Claire takes the medicine she becomes more agreeable."
Would explain why Desmond so firmly believes in pushing the button.
--Rayne 17:27, 5 May 2006 (PDT)
But doesn't Desmond know that the "sickness" is false and was invented by Kelvin simply to keep him in the Swan? --ActiveValue 15:01, 25 May 2006 (PDT)
USP thoughts..[]
USP generally stands for United States Pharmacopeia. Assuming it's not a placebo or somesuch, any drug with such a label would normally have the sanction of the USP to be used medicinally, which would imply that whatever it does it is not something unique to DHARMA. This might rule out some of the more fantastic theories on what this substance is. It's also just as possible that the prop people just copied it from an existing vial without realising it had any significance or that DHARMA did the same, both hoping to lend the vial some medical credibility. Lostbutnotforgotten 21:27, 5 May 2006 (PDT)
- And odd for a corporation (if tied to Hanso) that is in Denmark, rather than the US ;) I think this is probably, as you said, a prop mistake. -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 17:49, 21 May 2006 (PDT)
- Wouldn't be too odd. The USP sets the standards for all drugs used or sold in the U.S. But 130 other countries have adopted the standards as well. Likely that Denmark has. Even if not, if Hanso wanted to sell the drug at all in the U.S. , it would have to meet the USP Specs. --LOSTinDC 10:08, 23 May 2007 (PDT)
Barcode[]
Someone should run the barcode on the vial through a program to determine if there is a message encoded in it.
- It's almost certainly not 4815162342, unless the numbers greater than 9 are encoded some other way (e.g. letters) [1] Although... It does sort of look like it could start with "LOST" in Codabar format (try running that through the java page). - GoodRom 11:16, 16 November 2006 (PST)
- According to the interpretation text printed under the code, it's the numbers. However, there's a problem with that. The message itself is broken into three pieces. Note the thick black lines at the beginning and end of each of the three segments. The start code for this type of barcode is a thick, followed by thin line. The stop code is a thin followed by thick line. This means that the barcode is, in fact, three messages on one line. The only software I have reads Type93 code, and this isn't it. --ConspiracyofDetails 08:12, 10 May 2007 (PDT)
It seems that the numbers that appair under the barcode are nearly the same of original sequence. The difference is just the last number: it seems 43 instead of 42. this could mean that the vaccine changes one of number of sequence, according to che Dharma Project scope. - User:Mauro 16:20 , 07 January 2007
That sequence...[]
Why would the numbers here show up in the above sequence... On Hurleys lotto ticket, Russo's notes, even on and in the hatch the nubers are always arranged as "4 8 15 16 23 42" except here... now they are "4-81516-23 42" as if it's a different number sequence 4 81516 23 42...
Merge[]
I propose we merge this with Vaccine kit and just have CR 4-81516-23 42 be a redirect page. I already made it so that Vaccine redirects there (I didn't know we had this page, too, but there's redundency of info here). --PandoraX 21:13, 9 September 2006 (PDT)
- I think that's a good idea, it's difficult to keep them straight since they have the same sort of questions and are essentially the same thing. --ThEAsHwEE 12:25, 9 September 2006 (EST)
- Merge —Dmuk § 20:03, 13 September 2006 (PDT)
- Merge. Sure why not? --Marik7772003 21:24, 2 October 2006 (PDT)
- Merge --Minderbinder 05:23, 3 October 2006 (PDT)
- Merge: CR 4-81516-23 42 covers the substance in the kit, but we don't know enough (or anything) about the substance so there is no need for its own page. Paladine 08:04, 7 October 2006 (PDT)
Trivia[]
The Trivia section of the article makes the following statement:
A true vaccine is primary prevention, given before exposure to a pathogen. This drug technically could only at best be considered post-exposure prophylaxis (similar to immunoglobulin given after rabies exposure), and not a vaccine.
Wasn't part of the effectiveness of smallpox vaccination due to the fact that the smallpox vaccine could be given after exposure but before symptoms developed? The healthcare officials would go to wherever there was a breakout and vaccinate everyone that had come into contact with the afflicted person. --Doc 11:28, 16 November 2006 (PST)
- Very true, Doc. But the smallpox vaccine worked that way because the immune system would attack the weakened vaccine virus while the fully-able virus still incubated. The vaccine virus had cells exhibiting the antigen markers for the disease before the deadly version "woke up," giving the immune system time to ramp up a response before the deadly virus was on the move. The disconnect between the smallpox vaccine and our mystery vaccine is the dosage length - so far as we know, some people on the Island have been taking this stuff for years, which is far too long. Some vaccines do needs "booster" shots to keep the immune response going, but what we see is a little over the top. But I do think Doc is on to something strong here...I just wish I could connect all the dots. --ConspiracyofDetails 08:16, 10 May 2007 (PDT)
Formatting[]
I reformatted the page so that it is in sections based on the different appearances. Is this better? Fat Burger 16:14, 21 May 2007 (PDT)
Spectulation[]
Ths appears to be spectulation to me, I removed it from the Ethan section for the time being: "This is apparently a lie, given the fact that the Swan is still being restocked with vaccine." Fat Burger 16:14, 21 May 2007 (PDT)
Page Format/Layout[]
When the article was up for Article Attack, I started working on a full over hall on this article, then went out of town and never made these changes, so I just made a full change in one edit. If everyone disagrees with the change I've made, by all means just revert to the version before mine. I just liked this layout a bit better than the way things were, and I figured I'd post it and see if anyone agrees or disagrees. As I said, I made all changes with one edit, so it can be easily reversed and I won't be hurt. Also, if this is something I should not have done, somebody please let me know. Basically I kept all the content the same, just added Juliet's test med and categorized them by drug and user. Hopefully it makes sense. --Suddud (Talk) 22:19, 29 May 2007 (PDT)
- I don't think it's a bad idea to change it, but you went from prose back to bullets, and generally I think the layout is more confusing by starting with the label numbers and then moving to users. I reverted back so that we can make changes piece by piece rather than wholesale.
- Yeah I didn't even think about prose v bullets, good point.