Up for deletion?[]
"Enhanced" must mean that the frames of the guy getting sucked into the turbine which initiates the explosion are removed. The 'UFO' is just flying debris, and if you look carefully, there's a spark in the turbine even before the 'UFO' touches it. --skks 04:25, 18 April 2006 (PDT)
- This animated gif is legitimate. I caught it on the rerun last time. I say this must remain unsolved, debris does not behave that way. †††GodEmperorOfHell††† --04:52, 18 April 2006 (PDT)
- It is legitimate if you watch carrefully the video stream. And i think it is still unsolved unless you have some brand new confirmed theories. Thibault.taillandier 05:22, 18 April 2006 (PDT)
- I never said the gif wasn't legitimate, I said it's missing few frames from the beginning, namely the guy getting sucked into the turbine which triggers the explosion and that, unlike the article suggests, the explosion has begun before the appearance of the 'mysterious object'. What exactly is unsolved here? First, it's sucking everything towards it - add a guy - it's blowing everything away from it. The only new theory here is that there's something odd about this. --skks 07:16, 18 April 2006 (PDT)
- Turbine's are pretty robust, and have to be able to withstand a large explosive detonation, attatched to one of the blades @ 110% power before they are cleared for civil use. Bird strikes are easily taken by a jet engine, and its just a hunch, that a person getting sucked in wouldnt cause an explosion? then again neither would black smoke rushing past so hey Mikey
Debris versus object[]
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It seems obvious the second object (you were right to name it that way) is not a debris, since it appears before the explosion, and is moving really slowly compared to real debris.
Having others opinions would be great.
Thibault.taillandier 05:27, 18 April 2006 (PDT)
- Please put answers intended for particullar users in their respective talk pages.
I put might on purpose, it might be a piece of debris, as it responds to the force of the explosion. I want to make it clear that this is an object of an unknown nature, don't jump into conclusions about it being and UFO, a spaceship or The monster. I say; let´s leave the entry as ambiguous as possible. it is not the duty of Lostpedia to dictamine speculation as if it were theories or theories as if it were facts. Same discussion with the user who insists Hurley spoke with Dr. Marvin Candle in Santa Rosa. the screencap proves him wrong. You have an animated gif of something, it is not yet revealed what it is. It might be nothing or something. we'll wait and see†††GodEmperorOfHell††† --07:36, 18 April 2006 (PDT).
I don't know man, it seems to appear just like the other strange black object, and not come off the turbine itself, as do the other pieces of debris. They are both either something to do with the plot or CGI errors. Someone feel like popping in season one and watching the episode to see if it is able to been seen unenhanced by the naked eye on the actual episode? It is too late for me. Stetsonblade 5/1/06 1:24 AM
I watched the Pilot episode again today after seeing this, and I found that there are many of these black... things... flying around during the first part of the episode. I doubt that they are all debris, because they seem to appear and accelerate in different directions, following some of the survivors. If you watch the skyline during the whole first part where you see the first shots of the survivors, you'll see these black things flittering about. I strongly feel that there's a real connection between these things and the smoke monster, but there's no evidence to prove it one way or the other.--Spaz 16:19, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
It's Not Debris[]
The black "thing" hitting the turbine is clearly the black smoke. It can't be debris beacause you can see through it!!!--Jigsaw 14:23, 31 May 2006 (PDT)
the producers said the black smoke was not in the pilot.
Source will follow ^^ --Cool Man 0912 14:27, 31 May 2006 (PDT)
so... First , HERE you will find all places where these creepy things came up. and HERE you find Javi's statement to it.
oh , and THIS is a good point for the article ^^
I just checked out that site you were just giving us and that is crazy how many times this blob popped up, i got the dvd and when i'm done typeing i'm going to check out each of the times they gave us. WOW Sawbucks 21:29, 2 November 2008 (PST)
First signs of explosion[]
If you look at this frame by frame you'll see a flash of red/orange, possibly flames, in the very first frames. This is before the woman (Kate?) runs across the scene. This could be the first part of the explosion as the Turbine Man is being sucked in. The engine takes some time to disintegrate and cause the larger explosion of flames. The early flash is well before the black object even approaches the engine. --Mramsey 06:14, 2 June 2006 (PDT)
theory[]
but if it's the monster, why are there 2 of them? I think i know why; kindly post any fallacies you might see in my theory (the one about the 3 monsters)
--Push the darn button! 12:57, 29 June 2006 (PDT)
On the DVD[]
Does anybody else think we need to include the piece of commentary where either Damon or J.J. notes the vast importance of this scene to the series, or can it be left out? --Mighty Rearranger 05:16, 28 August 2006 (PDT)
more objects[]
If you look just before the guy is sucked in, there are 2 more "objects" that seem to push him in.
more screens[]
we need more screens of these "blobs"
Merge[]
Nominated this, since this is a popular myth and persistent rumor already on that page. I think we should merge the citations given (by Cool Man, thanks, I added them to the main page) to that list instead. --PandoraX 06:32, 28 December 2006 (PST) Reluctant no: I think this theory is very popular, and deserves similar recognition as nanotechnology, which has been allowed its own page --Nickb123 (Talk) 14:32, 28 December 2006 (PST)
Rename to Turbine explosion (debunked theory)[]
As per the discussion above, this article may indeed deserve to stand solo due to the popularity of its theory. However, due to the fact that this theory was explicitly debunked, as per the reference we already include about it in the Bloopers article, if this article remains separate, IMHO it MUST be Renamed to: Turbine explosion (debunked theory), just as the Nanotechnology article used for comparison. This request comes even stronger since the article is already referenced in others such as Pilot: Part 1, which makes it pretty misleading for unaware fans into believing that it's still up for debate.
Add your opinion, whether to Rename or Keep, to reach a consensus:
- Rename for the reasons above -- 18:23, 22 January 2007 (PST)
- Rename -BearDog 13:23, 25 January 2007 (PST)
- Rename --Mr.Leaf 13:25, 25 January 2007 (PST)
- Rename --lewisg 14:07, 25 January 2007 (PST)
Exposé Comment[]
The Comment about how the object never appears in Exposé is misleading. It implies that the object was removed from the scene. When, in actual fact, the scene in Exposé consists of the shot of Gary Troup getting sucked into the engine, which never showed the object to begin with, a shot of a humongous fireball that does not include the engine at all, and the shot of Jack and Claire from the Pilot beginning after the explosion started and the object was already out of frame. JoserKyind 10:39, 5 April 2007 (PDT)
Turbine explosion[]
Turbine explosion has been made a redirect linking to this debunked theory. However, this is wrong and confusing because the turbine actually exploded when Gary was sucked into it. The debunked theory, OTOH, is a misnamed theory referring to the black blob and what viewers thought it had to do with the explosion (rather than Gary). I propose we separate the two, especially as Lostscape has the turbine explosion video as one of the item reveals. If there isn't enough material to write a separate article, then I propose a section about the explosion on the plane page with the redirect going there instead (or a disamb page put in place of the redirect, which might be the best option). -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 01:28, 20 April 2008 (PDT)