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Episode credit[]

  • Please see edit histories, which clearly links to the ABC Medianet press release, where this actor is indeed credited properly. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  21:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
    • the triva stated that he was credited in the press release, but not in the actual episode - which is true. Check again and please re-add what you deleted ;) ---Pierre 21:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
    • This is not our MOS practice for episodes. Day players and other one-line characters are generally not listed in the episode opening sequence; these are all SAG/DGA/WGA contract items that specify which writers, producers, actors, and directors are listed, and which are not. Otherwise you would have "trivia" items for every one-line actor, 1st assistant director, 2nd assistant director, 2nd-2nd assitant director, and every single member of the writing team. We are not making such a huge, and ultimately fruitless and pointless, change to the entire wiki. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  21:56, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
      • I know about the differences between "guest stars" and "co-stars" and about SAG/DGA/WGA contracted actors. But Todd Bryant isn't just not credited in the among the guest stars in the beginning, he isn't credited at all in the episode (unlike Matthew Allan et al., who is credited in the end credits of the episode.)
        This isn't a change to the wiki, is the very modus operandi we use today - just like at Arlene Newman-Van Asperen it is noted that she isn't credited for her appearance.
        Nice to see that even administrators makes mistake though, pal ;) --Pierre 22:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Asperen is neither, she's a background extra, and a special case since extras are very rarely named characters (like the DeGroots, for example); therefore as a general policy, extras do not get articles, but there are exceptions; however she has no bearing on this billing issue for principal parts. For review on the issue, please see this url for the difference between "co star" and "guest star" (aka guest lead for the episode). Also see the definitions for "billing", which is presumably what you mean by "in episode". It's a contract-negotiable item, but usually the co-stars don't get billed. We're not about to go through the entire wiki looking at every one-line actor just to add this trivia point for standard practice. However if you are not talking about "billing" in the opening, but rather the fast scroll of the end, then than too needs to be clarified, in this discussion, as well as in any article content; the text in question still remains unclear as to this point. However that, too, means a huge change for standard policy, and means someone must be committed to going through all such credits in all episodes of all seasons, and comparing them with lists of all principal actors listed in ABC Medianet press releases; this enormous task has not been discussed, and qualifies as a "major change." If I have still have an error or misunderstanding, we need to discuss it here, rather than continue an edit war in bad faith and discussion using inflammatory language on this one article as you have been. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  22:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)