Talk: The Temple

Revision as of 15:27, 12 February 2009

Rename

Shouldn't this article be moved to "Temple", in accordance with the naming of other location articles? -- Ramirez Selvarn 07:30, 24 May 2007 (PDT)

Why does Ben want The Others to go to the Temple

Ben wanted Richard to lead the Others to the Temple incase Ben's plan to convince Jack not to call the ship failed, which it did. Ben must think they'll be able to hide safely there.

Whether or not it's a Temple

As we haven't seen the Temple, we do not know that it is a Temple, thus it is an unsolved mystery. --Xbenlinusx 20:19, 20 March 2008 (PDT)

It would be an unsolved mystery if something relied on its being a real temple and then there was some doubt cast on whether it was a real temple or not. Neither of those things have happened, so it's not a valid UQ, it's a theory posed as one. Robert K S (talk) 20:28, 20 March 2008 (PDT)

Subjective. --Xbenlinusx 20:33, 20 March 2008 (PDT)

I can see how it might seem that way, and I feel bad for a lot of people whose thoughtful UQs I've removed. That's why I wrote this essay... your comments appreciated on the essay's talk page. Robert K S (talk) 21:01, 20 March 2008 (PDT)

Logo

Can somebody make a computer generated picture of the logo?

I think we should change the logo. Watch carefully the little figure on the map: it's like a "symmetric" logo, with a straight line and two little "triangles" under it. The three white figures create a black "T" on the bottom of Dharma logo. Andreapasotti 02:21, 22 March 2008 (PDT)

Changed it. Check out TheTemple1.jpg Lash talk contribs

Good job! Hope that's the right version of Temple's logo.. Andreapasotti 06:58, 22 March 2008 (PDT)

thanks for the edit, I could not tell if it did form a T or not,but thanks for fixing my mistake--Unforgiven91 21:39, 22 March 2008 (PDT)

sorry, but I think this is not a "T" I think at the bottom of the line, this is the word DHARMA or beneath the T. But I'm sure there is the word DHARMA somewhere on the logo... (check Image:Logo_Temple.jpg) --The mE 18:07, 13 May 2008 (PDT)
I agree it says Dharma at the bottom but it's hard to tell if it's white lettering or black lettering and what else is going on. It's probably pointless to try to make a graphic from this tiny tiny screenshot until we get aq better look in a future episode. --Jackdavinci 21:29, 13 May 2008 (PDT)

I thought there was a Dharma lettering at the bottom too, but after looking at it carefully all I saw were two little horizontal lines just like the ones on the Arrow, Swan, and Staff logos. I would vote that it has no Dharma lettering in it. --The Cartographer 10:50, 19 May 2008 (PDT)

Possible Literary Reference

Just as The Tempest had a direct literary ref to a play by Shakespeare, The Temple could be named for a short story by H.P.Lovecraft. In the story, a U-Boat commander discovers a mysterious rock-hewn temple within a submerged ancient city he believes to be Atlantis. A bit of Lovecraft In Lost would be cool, Check out The Temple--Kivipat
That would be awesome.. And this is LOST, so I think that there's an high possibility to have this reference. Also, if you listen to the last podcast (I don't want to make any spoiler) you can hear a bell ringing.. Andreapasotti 01:33, 23 March 2008 (PDT)

Location

The location in the article was changed back to NW, is this correct? Ben's radio map shows the Barracks surrounded by land on 3 sides, the other side we don't see but must be near the ocean. Kate's map shows the Barracks as NW from the camp. This means Ben's radio map has South at the top, and the Barracks faces the ocean eastward (roughly). Ben's temple map shows us the ocean near the Barracks on the left, meaning left is East and top is South. Therefor isn't the Temple southeast of the Barracks? --Hugo815 05:48, 1 April 2008 (PDT)

Different maps show north in opposite directions. Ben's radio tower map has North at the top. This can be proved by overlaying the DHARMA cabling map on the radio tower map at the barracks. The flame must be north of the barracks and the beach camp is north of that. There were also directions given in through the looking glass that conform to north being at the top of the radio map. However, the survivors have repeatedly said that the barracks are to the north of the beach camp. There is no way to know which is correct. But I favor the beach camp being north because three different maps (rousseaus, dharma cabling map, ben's maps) all suggest that is the alignment of the island. I'm thinking about writing an article on the subject of compass points on the island to explain all the issues. Dharmatel4 06:51, 1 April 2008 (PDT)

From "This Place Is Death"

The science team referred to the place in the Dark Territory (where Montand lost his arm) as a temple. Are we assuming that this is the same location as "The Temple"? -- CTS Talk Contribs 03:10, 12 February 2009 (UTC) I don't think it's the same place. Until we get confirmation let's make it a separate location. --LOST-The Cartographer 03:24, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I believe that they made it painfully obvious that this was the Temple. Robert referred to the monster as "protecting the Temple," which was where they had been and encountered the monster. It's obvious to me. -- Sam McPherson T C E 03:26, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I think we have to wait to see the DHARMA connection first. Hugo815 03:27, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

What makes you think you can trust the Dharma connection? The only hint we have toward that is from Ben's map, and Ben is notorious for lying, manipulating, and misdirecting. Michael Lucero * Talk * Contributions

And we don't even know if the logo represented the Temple. -- Sam McPherson T C E 03:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Lets see if we can get an image to add.--Mistertrouble189 04:26, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm uploading one now. -- Sam McPherson T C E 04:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

That definitly look like an ancient temple to me --LOST-Hunter61 06:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

It's a temple, but it's not likely to be THE temple, which is supposedly a Dharma station. I doubt Dharma, which created a sonic barrier against the smoke monster, would put a station right in it's lair. At best, it's unknown whether "THE temple" is related to or the same as this temple. After all, we've seen ruins and ancient structures in other locations. Should definitely be a different location, maybe smoke monster lair...--Jackdavinci 07:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't think the Temple of the Monster is THE Temple. I just can't imagine the Others living with the Monster, as they don't control it. These could be other ruins, as there are many of them scattered through the Island. We could create the article "Temple of the Monster". -- Calick talk contributions email 15:27, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

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 : That definitly look like an ancient temple to me --[[User:LOST-Hunter61|LOST-Hunter61]] 06:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 ::It's a temple, but it's not likely to be THE temple, which is supposedly a Dharma station. I doubt Dharma, which created a sonic barrier against the smoke monster, would put a station right in it's lair. At best, it's unknown whether "THE temple" is related to or the same as this temple. After all, we've seen ruins and ancient structures in other locations. Should definitely be a different location, maybe smoke monster lair...--[[User:Jackdavinci|Jackdavinci]] 07:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
+:::I don't think the Temple of the Monster is THE Temple. I just can't imagine the Others living with the Monster, as they don't control it. These could be other ruins, as there are many of them scattered through the Island. We could create the article "Temple of the Monster". --{{User:Calick/sig}} 15:27, 12 February 2009 (UTC)