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I disagree, because we don't really know if the Ben and Widmore's Rules and the Time Travel Rules are different. [[User:Assumption|Assumption]] 19:01, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 
I disagree, because we don't really know if the Ben and Widmore's Rules and the Time Travel Rules are different. [[User:Assumption|Assumption]] 19:01, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
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*I used to think these two sets of rules were referring to the same thing, but given recent episodes (Dead Is Dead) it now seems more likely that Ben and Widmore's "rules" have to do with appropriate behavior for the Others/the Island and apparently don't relate to time travel. So I'd support a split at this time.--[[User:Cornprone|Cornprone]] 04:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

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General

I believe Linus and Widmore are engaged in a "lifelong game" for control of the island's powers. Rule #1. They cannot kill anyone themselves but must use others to do the dirty work. This is why Ben smiles when he succeeds in getting other people to do what he wants. --Habutom 03:42, 30 April 2008 (PDT)

I think these rules extend somehow to the Others (not necessarily DHARMA). So I think the first rule would be something more like:

  • They can't kill innocent ("good") people.

There may be something about directly interacting with the Lostees (explaining why Bea told Michael that the Others couldn't rescue Ben), and not allowing "Bad People" into the DHARMA compound (explaining why Bea told Mikhail to shoot her). --Doc 11:07, 26 June 2008 (PDT)

References to "The Rules"

I did a cursory search of the Wiki for any more references to "the rules". Anyone know a good way to parse all the transcripts for this phrase? I'm betting there's got to be more instances of people using that phrase. Dharmacakra Kevrock   talk  contribs   14:33, 8 September 2008 (PDT)

  • So I've found up-to a dozen references so far, but I'm sure there's more out there I've missed. Feel free to add any other references as they are found. Please stick to the current definitive/possible/coincidental organization. Thanks. Dharmacakra Kevrock   talk  contribs   11:46, 9 September 2008 (PDT)

Season 5 update

Most definitely these are the Rules about being not possible to change the future/past/whatever happened, as refered to by both Chang and Faraday. Can comebody make an update? Mauser 14:02, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

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I propose a split to two different pages, as this article's content is about two clearly different sets of rules under a specific-sounding title. I tentatively suggested Ben and Widmore's rules and Time travel rules as possible names. There is no reason to assume the rules referenced by Ben and Widmore in several episodes are the same as the rules referenced by Daniel and Pierre. Ben and Widmore's rules are more unclear in their content and seem to be general rules for behavior on the island, while the rules referenced by Daniel and Pierre are literal scientific rules regarding time travel. ShadowUltra 04:13, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I disagree, because we don't really know if the Ben and Widmore's Rules and the Time Travel Rules are different. Assumption 19:01, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

  • I used to think these two sets of rules were referring to the same thing, but given recent episodes (Dead Is Dead) it now seems more likely that Ben and Widmore's "rules" have to do with appropriate behavior for the Others/the Island and apparently don't relate to time travel. So I'd support a split at this time.--Cornprone 04:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
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