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"Not a good person"?[]

  • "I'm not a good person, Charlie. Never did a good thing in my life." -- From what we've seen of Sawyer's actions before and since, this is clearly a lie. Oh, poor self-deprecating Sawyer... :-( --Amberjet11 10:52, 17 November 2006 (PST)

ATTENTION: Terminology[]

To any editors who have done this: stop overusing the phrase "long con", especially when you are clearly misusing it. I've seen the phrase used countless times all over Lostpedia, almost always incorrectly: for example, Sawyer's rather short con in the non-flashback portions of this episode (where he joins with Charlie to initiate a con that lasts only a few short hours, not weeks or months like a long con) is not a "long con" just because it's in an episode which happens to be named that—nor is it ever referred to as such in the show, as the phrase is only used in flashbacks. We come across as over-eager fanboys when we leap on Lost terminology and excessively overuse it whenever given the slightest opportunity.

To a lesser extent, the word "con" is also excessively overused across most of Lostpedia. Pretty much any time anyone lies or tricks another person anywhere it is oftentimes referred to as a "con" on Lostpedia, even though even Lost doesn't overuse that term that much. It's particularly ridiculous when we start anachronistically referring to various Biblical passages as dealing with "cons"! Try to tone it down a little. -Silence 22:49, 3 August 2007 (PDT)

Remember, after all, that "con" is a slang word, and an Americanism. It's perfectly acceptable to use the word in reference to dialogue that also uses it, but keep in mind that it's not the most neutral or encyclopedic of terms—not even close. -Silence 22:51, 3 August 2007 (PDT)

Cultural References[]

Loose sayings and references should not always be assumed to apply directly to a popular piece of fiction. For example, Sawyer mentioning Jack riding Kate's horse wearing a white hat is not a Lord of the Rings/Gandalf reference, it is simply a reference to a cowboy or Confederate soldier leading the charge in battle. Sawyer is Southern, not a geek. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Christian BC (talkcontribs) .

True, but Sawyer is a huge book worm. --Blueeagleislander 04:41, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes, just trying to be blunt. But I think it stands to reason (at least in the case of Occam's razor) that such a vague reference was more likely referring to a general character, rather than a specific one. There is no evidence that he was referring to Gandalf unless you have a biased towards such a reference. And even then it's shaky. -Christian BC
True, I'll edit it to relflect that. --Blueeagleislander 04:54, 21 December 2008 (UTC)