Talk:The Crash

is it true that the survivors cant recall anything about the crash? We have seen the crash in flashbacks (which apparently are some sort of rememberance) and didn't even some of them talk about the crash - like what they felt when the tail broke off? Of course these go only as far as the depressurization of the plane - the crash itself was not seen. but maybe that distinction should be clarified? --aurora glacialis 16:21, 13 March 2006 (PST)

I mentioned this in Jack's 'talk' section.

We are visually given a blank on the crash. The survivors don't talk about the crash.

We see more of how it was with the tailenders, them being in the water and the violence of the crash and maybe thats to reinforce our imagination of how the fuselage hit too.

It is brought up that it seem unlikely so many survived the crash of a plane splitting up into sections and landing on a dry beach where the survivors just crawled out. If they did indeed crawl.

Jack blacked out before the tailend was torn off but Kate says she saw the whole thing.

Oddly Jack wakes up away from the beach, unharmed and almost 'placed' in a grove with no/little sign of how he got there, let alone fell from any great height.

Also we don't find Kate & Vincent on the beach.. to which i was suggesting that they might have been placed on the island, rather than fallen.

We don't know how much time passed between the breakup, the splash-down, the arrival of the survivors on the beach at all.

We assume that all flashbacks are 100% unbiased and show what really happened at all times. But what if they are false or an interpretation of how someone saw the situation.

--MRNasher

I've been thinking about that too. Has anyone noticed a correlation with the people who put on oxygen masks when the cabin depressurized and any other aspects of the crash (in the water vs. in the forest, etc.)? Maybe Oceanic was puttin' some wacky gas in those masks! --Joezoo 19:02, 13 March 2006 (PST)

The plane crash physics all seem wrong to me..

Charlie and one other person hit the ceiling, this is wrong as all bodies fall at the same speed. The plane would actually be slowed by friction with the air so although a degree of weightlessness would be felt, they would not fly into the air. UNLESS

The writers got it wrong. OR

The mid section was dragged down under force so fell at a speed greater then that caused by gravity, this could also conceivably tear the nose and tail off!

I think the plane was pushed / dragged down. --Crowlord 04:54, 9 April 2006 (PDT)

Charlie and the other ceiling hittin people isn't wrong, it happens. You might be interpreting it wrong though. There sudden "burst" indicates the plane went briefly into quick descent, then fixed itself again. The other people didn't go to the ceiling because they had their seatbelts on or were grabbed to something really well. When people train for Zero G enviornments (aka, astronauts), they get on a plane which deliberatley goes on quick descent to simulate the zero g. --Sauron18 15:26, 31 May 2006

There's another Crash page

If you type the search word "crash" it redirects you to Flight 815, which is further expanded and has annotations and what-have-you. --Amberjet11 13:10, 19 May 2006 (PDT)

Merge?

I think we should merge this page with Flight 815. After all it provides similar information, and what is not there can be added.Timothyseanfang 02:22, 29 May 2006 (PDT)

I agree, after all, whats "The Crash" without the plane? This article would fit well as a sub-section on the Flight 815 page. I don't see any downsides. --Blueflame 22:21, 29 May 2006 (PDT)

I agree too. --esorciccio 14:57, 30 May 2006 (PDT)

I agree.

I agree.--John Locke biggest fan 15:01, 7 June 2006 (PDT)

Agree --Nickb123 (Talk) 05:37, 15 July 2006 (PDT)

Agree as well.--Cghp91490 10:50, 25 July 2006 (PDT)

I also agree. --Gateboy42 12:38, 26 July 2006 (PDT)

Merge agree, make it a heading on Oceanic Air 815 -brianopp 11:02, 27 July 2006 (PDT)

Keep. -- SilvaStorm

Height ?

42 thousand feet is too high for the crusing altitude of that type of airliner, also altitude depends on the direction of the flight such as East, South, and West being 1000, 2000, and 3000 feet above North. I may have not got this exact, but there is an air trafic rule for direction and altitude. Joesoap