Talk: The Cabin

Interior/Exterior

I changed this page to detail the interior and exterior seperately since I think there is a lot of mystery to both and more will likely develop. The interior items are listed incase of their importance, we did get several shots inspecting the house so I'm guessing they are. Wish I had that shot of Locke looking at the empty seat of the chair though. Looking for others to elaborate on this or if people don't like the format for whatever reason, that's fine too. Voodoo 20:03, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

Painting of Jack Bender's dog?

Where was this revealed? --Invertebrat 18:21, 11 May 2007 (PDT)

By the way the show is presented, it seems more like the show wanted the viewers to think that Jacob's cabin was built by Bernard and Rose back in 1974-1997.

Vincent the dog was all white back in season 1 but later when Sawyer, Kate and Juliet met Bernard and Rose, Vincent's ear is slightly brownish color. Matching the dog in painting.

Move to "Jacob's cabin"

I propose to move this article to "Jacob's cabin" (or at least redirect said title here) as that's how it's being referred to all over this site. Hazel 00:12, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

The Fire

I watched the episode again and when the fire starts, Locke tries to put it out and it disappears. You can clearly see that Locke is surprised by this, so there is no mystery there. --kbarnes4861 07:47, 13 May 2007 (PDT)

• watch again! there IS something happening in that scene, the lantern breaks and fire starts, then suddently it's not the same "scene"(/timeline?/reality?) going on, things have changed, there's no more fire, the lantern isn't even broken, probably never felt down! Jacky 16:25, 2 June 2007 (PDT)

I agree, there is something particularly strange about that bit, I don't know exactly what is going on there. First the lantern falls, and Locke is looking at the fire raging on the floor. Suddenly, the next second, the fire is completely gone, without Locke or anyone else having done anything to put it out, and Locke clearly looks very confused by this. I think it's just another part to the mystery of Jacob that we will (hopefully) eventually discover. Jokesnsmokes 17:28, 14 July 2007 (PDT)

line of volcano ash

In the ABC recap video that is now airing (link), the voice says the line of gray ash around Jabob's cabin is volcanic ash. Is that sort of info to be considered canon? --DJVok 07:50, 23 December 2007 (PST)

I believe that anything released from an official source outside the show and unless otherwise noted is deutro cannon or something like that.--Jinx 19:58, 3 June 2008 (PDT)

Has anyone thought that the line of ash around the cabin could have been put their by Jacob to keep his enemy in? Because I think there might be something significant about the fire in the centre of Jacob's home in the statue - it seems to not be burning wood or coal, just ash. Maybe it's the same ash?

Who broke the line of ash? Wasn't it Ben? I agree that it could be used to contain Jacob's nemesis, but that would mean Monster and Jacob's Nemesis are two separate entities. --Guidedbyvoip 06:50, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Identity of eye

We cannot say for certain that it was Jacob's eye Hurley sees in 4x01. Suggest we refer to it as "an eye" until we know for sure.

Apparition House?

I have a theory that the cabin itself might be a haunting. The theme of a house that appears mysteriously and then dissappears or reappears somewhere else is actually quite common among ghost stories. There is one such dissappearing house next to the famous haunted "Bachelors Grove Cemetery", located in Midlothian, Illinois, which is a southwest suburb of Chicago. It is described in the wonderful book "Chicago Haunts" written by Ursula Bielski (ISBN: 978-0964242678). Bachelors Grove is supposed to be one of the most haunted places in the US - with more reports of hauntings, and more varied types of hauntings - than anywhere else.

This house has been reportedly been seen by numerous people while they are walking either to or from Bachelors Grove Cemetery. This cemetery is located out in the middle of what is public land - part of the Forest Preserve lands that encircle the greater Chicago metropolitan area, and which were set aside to provide a nature sanctuary for wildlife and for people to get away from the city. Nobody cares for this cemetery anymore, and over the years it has been repeatedly looted, graves have been dug up by people, and high schoolers have had beer parties and all-nighters there. It's not a nice place to visit - I know, I've been there. I would compare how I felt while looking at the desecrated graves in that derelict cemetery to visiting a toxic waste dump - not a place I'd really like to hang out in - just yucky... I got the impression of there being a "presence" there that just wanted to be left alone and was very hostile to anyone coming to visit.

At any rate, to get to Bachelors Grove Cemetery, you have to hike down a very neglected and overgrown forest road for about a quarter of a mile from the nearest road. The forest is very dense and young there - it is a typical forest that was obviously logged off at one point, and is now growing back but has not yet reached its maturity - so it is very thick with middle aged trees. As you walk back you become completely cut off from the outside world, and a growing sense of foreboding is present as you get closer to the Bachelors Grove Cemetery. It is along this derelict roadway in the dense forest that this house has been seen by people.

The house appears out in the woods, inexplicably cut off from any road, path or utility lines. There are quite a number of varied stories connected with this house, but they all share similar themes. Some people have reported seeing lamps glowing inside the house, as seen through the front windows on the porch. When some people try to approach the house they report that it seems to keep fading away - they can't ever get close to it - and instead they just get further and further into the thick woods trying to reach it. Others report being able to actually get to the house and try to climb the few stairs up to the porch, but that the house dissappears suddenly when they do. Others have reported that they've actually gotten onto the porch of the house, but have found that they cannot get inside. Nobody that I have read about has ever seen anyone inside or outside of the house - the only evidence of occupation is that some people see the lit lamps through the windows. Some people have seen the house but ignored it, but then they see it again in a totally different location on the way back from the cemetery. There's all kinds of variations on this house's story.

Some ghost hunter people went in and combed the woods around the area where the house has been reportedly sighted, and they've managed to find an old decrepit foundation of where a house once stood many years ago, but there is no record anywhere that has been found to determine who lived there or who owned the house that once stood on that foundation. It is within a few hundred yards of the Bachelors Grove Cemetery, so that would make it the closest domicile to that very haunted place. Other than that there's really not much to go on other than the stories people have told about seeing it in the dense woods.

Here are some references to this house:

Weird and Haunted Chicago

BachelorsGrove.com-1

BachelorsGrove.com-2

YouTubeVideo (a very good look at the area)

YouTubeVideo - 2 (this one is a bit hokey, but worth a gander)

I have heard of other similar stories of houses that are apparitions, but I can't recall the details about them at the moment. At any rate, this house in Bachelors Grove sounds a lot like Jacob's cabin to me. Perhaps the writers are using this house or others like it as a reference in creating Jacob's house. What do you think? -- Saukkomies 07:14, 16 February 2008 (EST)

Horace

Horace still had the plans in his pocket when he died, and the cabin seems to move around quite a bit. I'm wondering if he ever did get to build the cabin. He seems to be stuck in a loop building the cabin in Locke's dream. Maybe he didn't build the cabin til *after* he died and it's a sort of ghost-cabin. --Jackdavinci 08:02, 9 May 2008 (PDT)

• Interesting idea! I, too, wondered how the cabin ended up becoming so...mobile, since it was apparently built by mere mortal hands. Datameister 18:48, 9 May 2008 (PDT)

They visit the cabin only at night

Intrersting, isn't it? Maybe the cabin isn't visible during the day? And another thing - that weird sound which can be heard during the cabin scenes. Another unsolved mystery... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kemot from Poland (talk • contribs) 2008-05-19T09:51:08.

Claire is "safe"?

In the table on the page, it is written that Claire is "safe" in Jacob's cabin. Where and when is it ever said that Claire is "safe" in Jacob's Cabin? I vote that this is removed. All we know is that that Christian and Claire are "with each other" (to paraphrase). We have no idea what Claire's condition is. Vote? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Japhy Ryder (talk • contribs) 2009-03-06T04:20:04.

Is it really "Jacob's" Cabin?

I think after the happenings of The Incident, we can say that Jacob never resided in the cabin...he resides in the statue. DrRyanSullivan 23:16, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Jacob used the cabin, even if he didn't live in it. -- LightSpectra 05:23, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Evidence? DrRyanSullivan 15:27, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

It was Jacobs Knife that had pinned the drawing of the Statue to the Wall, not quite direct evidence, as the knife could have left his possession since the 1800's when we saw him with it

Well was it Horace's cabin, or Rose and Bernard's? -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  10:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I can't tell. This is a cap from darkufo... http://spoilertv.iimmgg.com/image/a85047824f0ea4773b5bbcfe751f6746 And this is another cap of the cabin in 2004... http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/image/b8804ec33952a6ddcf1502acb0f0e142 The boards seems to be laid differently, but that could just be that Rose and Bernard did repairs on the cabin over time. I think our best bet is to see if there's that big tree to the right of the cabin. Anyone see something I don't? --Uncertainty 14:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it's the same cabin. Plus we've seen 'Jacob's' cabin move around anyway.

It can't be the same cabin. We know Horace built it. Thus, either he would have noticed Rose and Bernard living in his cabin, OR it wouldn't necessarily have been built by 1977. Any similarities between the photos are likely because the props were re-used, not because Rose and Bernard are living in "Jacob's Cabin"/the cabin Horace built.

- It's definitely not Jacob's cabin, it was just used as a scapegoat by Ben. I think it belongs to Jacob's enemy. The guy at the start of the episode looks like the glimpse we saw in 3x20. Whoever was in the cabin told Locke to "help him" and later it is revealed that he has assumed Locke's appearance. Christian Shephard was "resurrected" upon crashing on the Island. It's very likely that Christian was actually Jacob's enemy. He used the cabin...it seems to me like Jacob's enemy lived in that cabin.--Baker1000 20:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

• Even if jacob used the cabin, we know that someone else (ropably Esau) was trapped / living in there. So Cabin is the best In my opinion.
• Since we've never actually seen Jacob in the cabin i think its safe to rename it 'The Cabin' timeshifts 01:10, 15 May 2009 (GMT)
• We can't rename it "The Cabin" for at least the reason that Rose and Bernard also have a cabin.  Robert K S   tell me  06:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Ilana and Bram went there specifically looking for Jacob, and Ilana came out saying that Jacob hadn't been there in a while. So I think it's clear it at least used to be Jacob's. So "Jacob's cabin" is still a good title I think, at least until we get more info. -- Graft   talk   contributions  07:58, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Really? But they know that "What lies in the shadow of the statue?" "The one who will save us all". They knew that Jacob was in the statue all along. They stopped at the cabin along the way to see if Jacob's nemesis was still trapped there. DrRyanSullivan 15:04, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

But Bram told Frank they were going to the cabin to show the person Locke's body so that they'll know what they're up against; and that what that is is "a hell of a lot scarier than what's in this box." Sounds like they were going to show Jacob that his enemy was operating through another version of Locke. Good point about them knowing the "shadow of the statue" answer though. It could be they knew that Jacob was living there recently, even though he had traditionally lived in the statue.-- Graft   talk   contributions  17:00, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

} Bram told Frank that what they were going to do with the box is show it to someone so that they know what they are up against. He didn't say they were going to the cabin to do this and see this person, at all. Frank asked what they were going to do with the box, he did not ask "where are we going now and why".--Salvora 21:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

This is Jacob's cabin; Illana said Jacob had not used it in a very long time. User:Spoutnik 44

No, they said "he" had not used it in a very long time, they never said Jacob. DrRyanSullivan 15:04, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Ilana and co. went there looking for Jacob and only after they saw the tapestry did they know that they needed to head to the cabin. Also, even though Ben never really saw Jacob, he must have had some reason to think Jacob was in that cabin when he took Locke there. Maybe it was a designated spot for Jacob to meet with the Leader.Iburnedthemuffins 15:16, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I disagree. Ben never met Jacob, he even admitted to it. Richard knew where Jacob lived--in the statue. Ben was either purposely taking Locke to a false Jacob, or he had no idea that it wasn't really Jacob, both of which explain Ben's anger at the end of the episode. And I believe you mean "head to the statue", but I also disagree with that. Their original intention was to always head to the statue (what lies in the shadow?), but because of the contents of the crate (Locke) combined with the fact that they had seen Locke "resurrected", they theorized that Jacob's nemesis had been released from the Cabin and possessed Locke, which they went to verify first before heading to the statue to help Jacob (the help he asked for from Ilana in the flashback). DrRyanSullivan 16:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Excellent points Ryan, I agree. I think you laid it out perfectly. --LOST-The Cartographer 20:19, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

The cabin was the original destination, not the statue. After Ilana came out of the cabin and said he wasn't there, Bram asked "now what?" After Ilana showed him the cloth with the statue figure on it, Bram said that they now know where to go. Regarding why they were going to see Jacob and not his enemy, I posted that above and didn't see this post down here, Ryan, otherwise I would've replied down here. -- Graft   talk   contributions  20:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I think it is not Jacob's cabin but Esau's cabin. However, I see no reason to rename. Because it has been referred to in the show as Jacob's cabin, and so that should be regarded as canon now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Salvora (talk • contribs) .

Why Not Horaces Cabin? Hes the only person we can totally confirm used the cabin InflatableBombshelter 02:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. Horace's Cabin would make the most sense, given that he possessed the blueprints and is the only character shown to have a genuine connection to the location. .Fnool 16:04, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

• I think that Rose and Bernard "borrowed" the cabin from Horace, but "Horace's Cabin" really makes the most sense-- Sharon1234  Talk  Flashback  01:43, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

• How? Horace still had the blueprints in his pocket when he died in the purge (early 90's?), but Rose and Bernard were living in a cabin in Dharma times. DrRyanSullivan 16:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

It wasn't confirmed as Horace's. We saw him just on a vision. Maybe was Jacob's enemy in Horace's body saying that, who knows? -- Lucas Benicá | Talk | Email | 17:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

There are too many things happening -- directly and indirectly -- with this cabin. Ben admits he had no idea where to find Jacob; I don't think he had any idea what the circle was for. Ilana and company go there looking for "him" without ever identifying who "he" is. Bernard and Rose are in some other cabin, tacitly challenging the idea that Horace was building "the" cabin. Jacob doesn't need a cabin; he lives at the foot. We may soon be asking if this ever was Jacob's Cabin.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 02:48, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

• But for now, it should remain 'Jacob's Cabin', as that is what it is called in canon. Also, it is undoubtedly Jacob whom Ilana's team is seeking, and as previously stated, they had to change plans to meet him at the foot. Jacob has been associated with this cabin on several occasions and the show gives us no reason to doubt whether he was ever there. Rose & Bernard's Cabin is ment to be a distinct cabin, probably similar due to production recycling. TheSmokeMonster 23:25, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

The Man in the Cabin

Does anyone remember the man we saw very briefly (less than a second) when Ben first took Locke to the cabin? (I think this is Season 3, The Man behind the Curtain.) We now know for sure that that man wasn't Jacob: for now we know how Jacob looks like and it is very different from the profile of that man. I have tried to compare a picture of that man with a picture of Jacob's Nemesis, but I'm not sure what to conclude. I don't think they are the same man.--Salvora 21:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I think there should be a separate page for "the brown eye and silhouette formerly known as Jacob". Whoever that was, and whatever we want to call him, it's really his cabin. Iburnedthemuffins 00:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

• There should be a separate artical for this character, as he yet anonymous and could well prove to be quite significant, and it would be useful to have a page for theories and discussions associated with him/it.

"Jacob" in the cabin was portrayed by Rob Kyker, the Lost property master. We shouldn't read too much into what he looked like when the speaking role had not yet been cast.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 18:17, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

• Make that "The occupant of the cabin was..."--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 01:04, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't quite understand why everyone thinks that the first appearance of someone in the cabin in The Man Behind the Curtain was insignificant just because the silhouette was "played" by Rob Kyker. If TPTB did not want us to see any image, they could have done that, but instead they picked him and showed the close up of the brown eye. The fact that this does not seem to line up with the Jacob in The Incident only makes the whole thing more mysterious. Iburnedthemuffins 21:00, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

When originally shown, it was unclear if 'Jacob' existed (seem to recall it was implied that Ben created the whole myth in order to retain leadership of his group) Since now Jacob has been shown to be corporeal guy who has been kicking around the island for years, it is fair to say the man in Jacob's cabin is... Jacob. Its clearly established and referred to as Jacob's cabin. Otherwise it wouldn't been referred to as Jacob's cabin. I might even ask the question in the negative, now after all that has been revealed: What leads to the belief that someone other than Jacob was in 'his' cabin? Cander0000 03:30, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Because the guy we saw was clearly not a "corporeal guy", and Ilana even said that someone other than Jacob was living there. Plus haven't the producers confirmed that we never saw Jacob in any form until "The Incident"? "Help Me Guy" clearly needs his own article. ESachs 23:48, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect Trivia? Jacob's Cabin "sound effect"

It says "All of the cabin's appearances thus far have been accompanied by a unique sound effect playing quietly in the background, a repeated rising tone not unlike a bird call." I just rewatched the cabin scenes in The Incident and all I heard were birds and percussion, no such sound effect. I didn't check the other episodes, but if it is in fact in those, and not in this, it shouldn't say that it's in "All of the cabin's appearances". If it is in fact there, which I can't for the life of me hear it, would someone please tell me specifically where I can hear it?--HaloOfTheSun 00:20, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Did Jacob ever inhabit the cabin?

• We have to consider what we know.
  • There was, until it was burned, a cabin. (Actually there were two. Bernard and Rose were last seen living in the other, but that's another discussion.)
  • Ben admitted that he thought he was talking to an empty chair.
  • Horace told Locke in the dream sequence that he was building a cabin. (Those were very thin trees, by the way.)
  • As instructed, Locke retrieved some blueprint/map from the pocket of Horace's jumpsuit. One can only wonder at the value of a map to a cabin that moves might be.
  • Ilana and company go to the cabin seeking "him," who is not named. They find a portion of a tapestry leading them to proceed to the statue.
• We have to consider what we don't know:
  • Did Jacob ever inhabit the cabin?

--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 14:23, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

Who broke the circle of ash surrounding the cabin?

One of the unanswered questions is "Who broke the circle of ash surrounding the cabin?". I clearly remember Locke doing it, but I don't have the old episodes to make a screenshot. Can someone please check it? I think he did it during his second visit, when he actually didn't find it, but I'm not sure.

--Phobos99 18:05, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Locke picked up some ash in "The Man Behind the Curtain" but he didn't break the circle.  Robert K S   tell me  18:08, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

If we're under the assumption that the Man in Black was a prisoner in the cabin until the ash circle was broken, then it had to have happened before any of the Losties ever found the cabin, because Smokey was loose during the pilot episode. The best theory I've heard is that Christian's body falling out of the sky broke the circle, freeing Smokey from imprisonment as well as freeing him to take the form of Christian. -- Managerpants  Contribs  Talk  18:18, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

No, because the Monster was on the prowl pre-2004, like when it attacked the French team, and when the sonar fence was erected to keep it out.  Robert K S   tell me  18:22, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well, sure, unless it was trapped sometime between 1988 and 2004. :-) -- Managerpants  Contribs  Talk  18:25, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Simply, the monster inhabited the cabin when the losties were there, i.e christian, we know that smokey can take up forms, but jacob can't. That was the monstertrapped in the cabin, Jacob later or possibly earlier took refuge before or after the statue 'house'. I cant think why Jacob would use it to keep smokey out, because he can't hurt Jacob, thus there would be no point in using it, unless it was used as a refuge by the losties etc. This makes sense. Or maybe Bernard and Rose used it and discovered the ash trick. I think the noise in the first episode that came from the forest was the polar bears, as i believe there was none of the typical noises of the monster. and Christian's coffin couldnt have disrupted the ash, because the coffin was located at the caves, nowhere near the cabin.--Liam93 21:06, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't say Christian's coffin, I said Christian's body. The coffin was empty, so the body could have fallen out. And a polar bear couldn't have deposited Captain Norris in the top of a tree. :-) -- Managerpants  Contribs  Talk  14:07, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

he could have fallen from the plane there. And the body wouldnt have fallen out the coffin cuz they are nailed shut

In theory. In theory, a coffin wouldn't get "misplaced" either. You can't always apply real-world logic to Lost. :-) -- Managerpants  Contribs  Talk  15:10, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Bags and Luggage do get lost quite often with airports

The text commentary in the enhanced version of "LA X, part 2" (which I realize isn't canon) stated that the ash was placed around the cabin to keep the smoke monster out. --Celebok 21:19, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

Jacob lived somewhere else (the foot of the statue); the Monster lived somewhere else (to be determined); Jacob kept something in the cabin that the Monster needed to become stronger. Christian broke the circle, allowing the Monster to retrieve "it." It's all too limp to be a theory.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 21:45, February 11, 2010 (UTC)

How would christian be able to break the circle, two theories a) he is the smoke monster and so can't cross the ash to break it, or b) he has come back to life, or healed, similar to Locke (The first happening, not the second, (him walking again)) --Liam93 00:54, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Good question... How about this: The "it" was greater strength. It was taken from him sometime after his attacks on the French in 1988 and before September 22, 2004. I don't know how. As Smoke, he is unable to move the ash. He needs a body to replicate and there are none available because the Others send their dead to sea and the DHARMA Iniative returned any bodies to the Outside (supposition). When Christian's body became available, he was able to replicate Christian and create the path through the ring around the cabin. When he charged through the jungle the first night, he had already used Christian (had Jack already "seen his Father?") and was exercising his newly recovered powers, even, possibly, with a little lapse of coordination.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 01:33, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Nice Theory^^^, it just seems a little weird to me, why hasnt it killed eveeryone, they must have built the sonar fence, why didnt it kill them while they were building it? Personally i think the big pocket of energy the dharma were drilling in to was smokey, maybe jacob locked him away after what it did to the french team, The electric fence WAS to keep wildlife out but was eventually used to keep SM out. I just still cant understand why dharma wouldnt integrate this ash into their clothes, if they made a paste and smeared it on theirselves then surely smokey wouldnt be able to touch them. Or integrated it into some part of their place. And also, if the SM is hurt/repelled by the sonic fence, how did he get in to destroy the mercenaries? Why doesnt he just get in and destroy the dharma? --Liam93 09:20, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

2 times

Now there is 2 times of the same by visitors.--Station7 18:54, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Managerpants, that was I trying to do. Jim in Georgia, Managerpants did what I was supposed to do.--Station7 18:55, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

No problem, pal. -- Managerpants  Contribs  Talk  19:02, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

WTF?--Liam93 23:53, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Deleted trivia

The following trivia was deleted by someone else: --Jackdavinci 05:20, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

• According to the DVD commentary for "The Man Behind the Curtain", when Ben is talking to the "empty chair", there was no officially written dialogue for what Jacob was supposed to be saying. Instead, actor Michael Emerson prepared to play the scene properly by writing notes in his own script to reflect Jacob's unspoken lines.
• All of the cabin's appearances thus far have been accompanied by a unique sound effect playing quietly in the background, a repeated rising tone not unlike a bird call.
• According to commentary for "The Man Behind the Curtain" on the Season 3 DVD by producers Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof, the circle of ash is "a bit of a kind of protection or magic or kind of containment. Ben is afraid to touch it. In a certain way, part of the idea here is that Ben has some powers over Jacob, and Jacob has some powers over Ben, and there is a bit of a stasis."

Rename

• with the current proposed name, I think that we should either keep it as Jacob's, move it to Horace's (well he built it), or move it to The cabin. For the record, Jacob did live in the cabin for some time (Ilana said so in "The Incident, Parts 1 & 2") and Horace built it, we don't exactly know the exact circumstances under which MiB lived in the cabin, he may have just visited it several times as a part of his long con, and never actually used it as a residence. --Orhan94 10:52, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
• with the proposal. In the long term, I think we will find out more about the cabin. Ilana's statement ("He isn't there, hasn't been in a long time. Someone else has been using it.") is intentionally vague and there are too many possible combinations of "He" and "Someone else" to rename at this time. If for no other reason, will we almost certainly know MiB's name by the end of the series and we get to rename again.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 12:38, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

  • You got that one wrong! :-) -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  10:58, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

• Maybe in future episodes of Lost we will know who was the truly inhabitant of the Cabin after Horace Goodspeed--Veracrux 21:50, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
• While the case is becoming solid for the connection of the MiB to the cabin - he was there with Claire once, it's surrounded by ash, Illiana's group checked the cabin first - we just don't know for ironclad. HOWEVER we ought to just call it "The Cabin" rather than "Jacob's" cabin.--Pittsburghmuggle 00:15, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
• It wasn't Jacob's cabin. It is pretty clear/obvious now that it was MIB pretending to be Jacob in the Cabin. Its definitely not Jacob's Cabin, so I agree with proposals to call it The Cabin. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  10:58, May 26, 2010 (UTC)