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I expect this "Station" to become "Station 5" Spoiler Information Follows Disney Registered Link http://lxicon.perception.net/lost/user.submitted.archive/drfrigginevil.HansoClassification4-16-81.wmv Victory through vegetables.....Dean

The link does not work. It is likely that the video is the same that is adressed in the "Logos" Article as a "well made fake".

Station 1, According to the DVD

"In the feature, "Secrets of the Hatch" on the Lost: The Complete Second Season DVD it is said that the Arrow is the first Hatch. This may be mistaken info, but it should be noted."

I edited that into the article, and that's pretty much the whole story. I can't remember who said it, but I figured it's intresting information. It makes me think that either the castaways didn't discover the entire Station or that it was CONVERTED into storage. Either way, I figured I should give a heads up that I edited this.-Therum

The Arrow and the Blast Doors

Michael found blast doors that had not been activated in the ceiling of the Swan "The original hatch". The area available in the the Arrow is similar to those areas that would remain if these doors were activated in the Swan. My theory is that the blast doors were triggered in the arrow and sealed off the living quarters. I also believe that this is the site of the "incident" they talk about in the orientation film.

CeltiC_RaGe75

Sounds very reasonable! --skks 15:44, 8 March 2006 (PST)

I agree with this theory but what would the Arrow have to offer in terms of the Incident? I think we need to wait until we get a better glimpse of it on the show in season three. --Gateboy42 05:46, 15 July 2006 (PDT)

Zoological station...remove that theory?

The last edit added to theories: "The most common theory is that it was a supply depot for the zoological sciences aspect of the Dharma Initiative program. There are six logos of the Initiative, and along with these logos come different classifications for what kind of research was being done at that paticular station. Dharma arrow or station 4 was Zoology, Dharma comet is physics. Along with each of these stations there are storage facilities that store food, but more importantly the vaccine to the disease which has plagued the island."

I think this was most likely based on the fake orientation video (again) and should be removed. Also, I still do not follow the mainstream into thinking there are 6 stations. → see orientation movie discussion. --aurora glacialis 13:00, 8 March 2006 (PST)

I removed the paragraph... Got kind of a zero tolerance against everything related to that hoax video :-p --Jambalaya 13:30, 8 March 2006 (PST)

Me too. I don't know why people believed it to be honest --Nickb123 04:56, 6 June 2006 (PDT)

How do you know the video is fake? 20:15 (GMT) 27/9/06

producers debunked it, and they just stole footage of some spa owner talking.--CaptainInsano 12:23, 27 September 2006 (PDT)

Glass Eye

I was watching the Swan Orientation video and during the closeup shots of the guy in the film, I noticed something funny about his right eye. It seem the close up shots of him intend to point out his eye. For one, it is more open than his left eye. Secondly, it appears to have something strange about it. It almost looks black, like Locke's eye looked in one of Claire's dreams from Season One (not sure which episode). Maybe not completely black, but I am left wondering if this could have something to do with the glass eye found in the Arrow? I looked around for any more info on the eye and found nothing. Maybe it was his glass eye that was found? --Danny 03:58, 16 March 2006 (PST)

Tailies or Tailenders

Should we use tailies or tailenders in the article? I go for tailenders. Tailies sounds a bit silly.

Vote - Tailies. --Apollo Candy 20:41, 19 June 2007 (PDT)

Could someone provide material for this

QUOTE: Was hinted by the producers that there maybe are more arrows and that they are ordinary warehouses scattered around the island

When was this done? On the stations article it says this was mentioned in a podcast. Can someone please provide a date, as without specific reference, it will be assumed that this theory is unfounded --Nickb123 04:54, 6 June 2006 (PDT)

Its gone --Nickb123 12:26, 9 June 2006 (PDT)
It is likely that there is one Arrow station, as shown on the blast door map. --Gateboy42 05:47, 15 July 2006 (PDT)
They said somthing like that on a podcast.--CaptainInsano
They did say something about it maybe "not being a real station," however, they have said and leaked things in the past which they have thought were going to be true at the time, but instead ended up getting changed or scrapped. There are several examples of this, including the replacement of the character Jessica by Alex, Neil Frogurt never making an appearance (though this may have been purely a joke), and other stories which were never fully explored. So while they implied that the Arrow was not a real station, they may have adjusted the script from that plan after they said that. However as if now, it hardly looks like a real station and still like a depot to me. We'll have to wait and see how the flesh it out.--Two Coyotes 18:54, 17 July 2006 (PDT)

Size?

Did anyone else notice that the Arrow seems to be quite large? I didn't realise it at first, but when Michael and co. first go into it, they walk down a long corridor, which leads to two larger rooms, one of which is where they stay (containing the box).


Map

Has anyone tried to make a fan map of the Arrow like those made of the Swan and Pearl?--ASEO 11:32, 18 October 2006 (PDT)

  • Yeah, but it was criticized due to the fact that we haven't seen the whole station and the map ended being inaccurate and based more on what people thought the station may have been like as oppoosed to what it actually did. Here's what they came up with, if you want to see it anyway. [[1]]--Fezir 16:13, 22 October 2006 (PDT)
That is untrue the map was just plain wrong.--CaptainInsano 16:15, 22 October 2006 (PDT)
not 'wrong', imo, just impossible to do. all the information we have is based off a few poorly lit scenes over the end of one episode, and the start of another (iirc). there simply isn't enough information there to construct an accurate map really - say, in comparison to the staff, where the scenes were well lit, or the swan (where we spent a decent frickin chunk of season 2). --kaini. 17:50, 22 October 2006 (PDT)

"The Flame and the Arrow" (film)

Does anyone have any more information about this? I think that bit of trivia should be more detailed. --Invertebrat 21:11, 2 November 2006 (PST)

Nevermind. --Invertebrat 13:15, 7 November 2006 (PST)

Excuse me if I'm being dense but I don't see any significant connection to LOST here--Puddin Tame 17:14, 15 March 2007 (PDT)

Source for supply station?

Where did we get the idea that the Arrow is just for supplies? I think later revelations disprove that, but I was wondering where that comes from in the first place. Is it just that the talies thought that's what it was for? Iamme 11:43, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

The Numbers

Horrace Goodspeed was a mathematician, so it would make sense that the arrow was a station focused on math, and the numbers.

I crossed manufacturing, storage, and maths, and though of "Resource Management". That's my theory for the purpose. --Blueeagleislander 01:34, 20 June 2007 (PDT)

The Arrow Isn't Storage (Or Wasn't Orginally..)

I'm aware of a thread that talks about the arrow being a storage station, but that is most likely incorrect. It could serve as that purpose now that the dharma initiative members have died out, but I think it's original purpose was as a mathematical station serving the purpose to study the valentinezi equation and or other projects involving the numbers. I think this because Horrace Goodspeed is a mathematician, and because he was wearing The Arrow suit in Ben's flashback. I think in the next possible dharma related flashback, we will see a lot more of the arrow, and why it is important. I think it is the least explored station because of how important it is..

And come on, why would what looks like a very prominent dharma member be working in a storage station only? What would you do all day?

MathematicalForecastingInitiative

On the Hanso Foundation website its one of their initiatives. Fact is it was the Mathematical Forecasting Initiative.


--Apollo Candy 14:52, 25 June 2007 (PDT)


I agree with what is wirtten above. The purpose of each station is its originally purpose, not the purpose it has currently. We should change it to "Assumed Mathematics Station" --JPB. T. C. E. 16:01, 1 June 2008 (PDT)

Prisoners?

When Michael, Sawyer and Jin were discovered and captured by the Tailies on day 45 they were later shortly held in the Arrow station

Were Jin, Michael and Sawyer technically still prisoners of the Tailies when they were brought to the Arrow? I thought Ana Lucia determined that they were telling the truth after pulling Michael and Jin out of the pit and questioning them. And once they had pulled Sawyer out, they were joining them on their way back to the Arrow more or less voluntarily.--Nevermore 13:04, 7 March 2008 (PST)

Notable Visitors

I'm just putting this idea forward, kind of like memorable quotes to see what people think. This would be on all locations, not just stations.ZTcrazy 15:55, 11 March 2008 (PDT)

I'm personally getting a little tired of seeing those tables pop up on so many pages. They take up a lot of space for how much they actually say. Many of the "content boxes" end up having to say just a small piece of trivia that otherwise wouldn't add anything useful or significant to the main article content. I'm also in favor of describing things with prose as much as possible and resorting to tables only when necessary. -- Graft   talk   contributions  16:43, 11 March 2008 (PDT)
Fair enough, whatever you think is best.ZTcrazy 16:57, 11 March 2008 (PDT)
  • This is nitpicky, but technically we don't know that that either Horace or Radzinsky have visited the station. --Mbtoole 16:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Why is the inverted logo on Horace's suit on this page? The logo that should be on there is the logo seen at the actual station. Several of the logos have inverted versions, but they aren't used as the official station logo. --CTS 19:16, 1 June 2008 (PDT)

The Purpose

I think we should change the station's purpose. it currently says restocking but thats just what the survivors use it as. Its not originally what the Dharma Initiative used it as. Thats as far a s we know currently. I think we should change it to either "unknown" or "Mathematics station" sinse Horace is a mathematician and is wearing the logo.--JPB. T. C. E. 18:03, 2 June 2008 (PDT)

No, it is a storing/resrocking station. It is stated so on the blast door map. --CTS 18:07, 2 June 2008 (PDT)

Arrow's station number

For future edits, please do not change the Arrow's station number to "1 of 6". Within the context of the show, the Arrow's number designation is still unknown. Please refer to the Arrow's trivia section for a detailed explanation. Dharmacakra Kevrock   talk  contribs   11:40, 24 June 2008 (PDT)

About it's purpose

CTS the Blast Door Map doesn't necessarily confirm the Arrow being a storage/restocking station because if you remember that notation, along with several other were scribbled out. Obviously Radzinsky or Kelvin changed there mind about it's actual purpose.

Also Orhan can't say that it i a mathmatical station, considering the only evidence he has to believe this is Horace's jumpsuit.

I already the true purpose due to spoilers, but I will not post it till that info is revealed. --LOST-The Cartographer 20:04, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah they were scribbled out, but it's the best evidence we have for the station's purpose. From what we've seen of the station, it looks precisely like a staging/restocking area, but if you'd like to, you can say "Unknown" instead. -- CTS  Talk   Contribs 20:14, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

In LaFleur, when Richard Alpert enters the Barracks, Horace Goodspeed gives orders to "Call the Arrow. Tell them we're at Condition One. Take the heavy ordinance and make sure the fence is at maximum". This implies that there is an armed force stationed at the Arrow.

It doesn't matter. It can be left the way you have it. --LOST-The Cartographer 20:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I changed it to unknown/presumed. I think it's safer to say that. -- CTS  Talk   Contribs 20:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Late Orientation?

In "He's Our You", in 1974, Horace Goodspeed says "Call the Arrow. Tell them we're at Condition One. Take the heavy ordinance and make sure the fence is at maximum". However the orientation film isn't filmed until at least 1977 (as we know from baby Miles being present). Why the 3 year holdup?--Integrated (User / Talk) 05:44, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah i noticed that too, i comented this earlier on the episide Because you left" I personally think that he was filming an updated version of the orientation film. Another explaniation could be that there were not enough DHARMA members earlier on in the 70's to require orientation films, as the station probably had the same people stationed there for a longer period of time, but now they take more frequent shifts on the stations.-- Nzoomed  talk  contributions  00:17, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

True Purpose

Are we ever going to find out the true purpose of the Arrow? I know the orientation film says it was an intelligence/spy station, but then why would a mathematician like Horace work there? And why would Radzinsky, a very high ranking DHARMA member, describe it as a storage station? Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever know. It seems like the orientation video filming was probably the last we'll see of this station.--Linus2342|talk|contributions 20:52, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


Arrow and Others

I'm sure that the Others don't know about the Arrow. That why my meaning is that Goodwin also find this station.--Station7 15:56, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

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