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Does anyone have a clear screenshot of the keyboard layout, or a pic of a similar machine? --Joseph 19:30, 20 February 2006 (PST)
I added some pictures and reformatted the page a little. I hope that helps. --Jabrwocky7 20:23, 20 February 2006 (PST)
Awesome, thanks! --Joseph 20:26, 20 February 2006 (PST)
A note about my recent edit
I don't think we can compare a real AppleII with this one in terms of technical details or do we know whether the timer program was actually offline while Michael had his little chat with Walt. I'm pretty sure Michael didn't plan (ergo he didn't start any IM software) to talk to his son. Also, I have no idea where the 4 minutes comes from as Locke was able to reset the timer after the 108 minutes. If there was a 4 minut timelimit, why have the timer at 108 instead of 104?
the 4 minutes are the time from when the alarm sounds to the timer reaches zero, right? So if it beeps, you have 4 minutes to push the button. The fact that is does work even after that was only seen by locke and surely is not supposed to happen...--aurora glacialis 15:22, 23 March 2006 (PST)
The other machines in station 3
How come none of the survivors have enquired as to the purpose of the other machines in the station, the numbers terminal would not require these, and they must therefore serve another use, most likely recording data and surveiilance.
Whatever their real purpose is, the people in the hatch must assume they are part of the machinery that keeps the "world from ending". But the people on the island are not really curious anyway. They still have not explored much of the island... --aurora glacialis 06:01, 7 April 2006 (PDT)
Extra hardware info
Do we really need all these pictures & hardware info? I moved the apple II to a separate page, but now it's back here, and since no one has initiated any discussion - I'm going to. Personally I feel that all the hardware details are really irrelevant, as it's not part of the show. The hardware in Swan is there at a prop capacity, it doesn't need to have a purpose. Someone make a page of the washing machine, because it's equally important as the picture of a typical 9 track tape at this point. Outside links are for background information, we don't need the background information spoon fed, it's much easier to click a link than read compulsory IT jargon. IMO. --skks 04:52, 12 April 2006 (PDT)
- Agree. All the pictures of hardware are irrelevant. The one picture at the top is all that's needed here. I liked where you put them under Apple II. Although, since not all the hardware is Apple, another heading might be more accurate. BUT--I think someone searching for it would be more prone to search for Apple then "computer hardware" which would be more accurate.
- I fully agree that there's too many photos in this article. I think "Apple-IIep.JPG", "MonitorIII.JPG" and "9-Track_Tape.gif" should be removed as these aren't THAT relevant to the content of the article. However, "IBM_3420.jpg" should remain as it is the computer's storage unit and it appears several times in the hatch. But unfortunately, there's too little text here for all these photos... --Jambalaya 14:26, 12 April 2006 (PDT)
I guess this discussion is irrelevant as the article gets reverted regardless of the popular opinion. Oh well. --skks 13:22, 15 April 2006 (PDT)
- Serious consideration should be given to the definition of "popular". Yours and Jambalaya's opinions don't reflect all Lostpedia readers.
- In addition: Jamabalaya, how do you mean "they aren't THAT relevant"? You state that the photo of the IBM 3420 magnetic tape unit should remain because "it appears several times in the hatch" -- well, the Monitor III appears at least as many times (it's what the numbers and text show up on!), and 9-track tapes are always present on the input desk. (Aerogami 03:37, 16 April 2006 (PDT))
Two probable sockpuppets do NOT constitute "popular opinion". Additionally, your edit summary is a lie: you removed only the extra images, not any of the information about what's been erroneously labeled "other hardware". The hatch "computer" is not just an Apple II Plus with Apple III monitor. The COMPUTER consists of the entire setup -- tape units, lighted panels, etc., with the Apple II/III serving as a TERMINAL. "The Station 3 Computer" is the sum of its parts. The terminal, alone, is an orphan, effectively functionless.(Aerogami 03:44, 16 April 2006 (PDT))
- I think you are missing the point, Aerogami. The information isn't extraneous, but half a dozen pictures of various computer equipment is a bit overboard when even one screen cap of the room would provide all the detail needed. In my opinion (and the opinion of the only two other people commenting), the extra images would be better served in another location. As for my edit--as I explained--I reverted it to the previous version. I find it pretty ironic that I’m getting called out for my summary when you didn’t even provide one at all (or join in this discussion) the last time you decided to stick the images back on the page after several of us took the time to discuss whether they should be on the page. Anyway, I’m done with this topic--so feel free to do whatever you want to this page.--Sid67 08:59, 16 April 2006 (PDT)
I've cleaned this article up a bit, refractoring the emphasis on the props to emphasis on relation to the show. This isn't Apple-pedia! It's good to add trivia, but not to clog the article with it. (and it's not an 'Easter Egg' in the true sense of the term, so I switched it to 'triva') -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 09:02, 19 May 2006 (PDT)
I think it's a good (if annoyingly unsigned) point. Given that magnetism seems to play such a big part in Lost it does seem curious that such an obvious issue would overlooked. TPTB are very keen in maintaining the logic of the show and this seems like a massively illogical oversight.--TechNic|talk|conts 09:01, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
Unanswered question answered
The reason a human has to input the numbers instead of a bot has been answered in Access: Granted, so I'll remove it. Kreachure 14:14, 5 May 2008 (PDT)
The computer in the second season, and theme of pushing the button parallels a lot the idea of Pascal’s wager, it also contains themes found in kerkigarrd about the nature of faith. This particular storyline is not really contiguous with much of the surrounding plot of the Dharma initiate through the seasons. Could I include something about this here without a clear citation?--Sycamore 11:50, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
- Dunno. But that's insightful.ephilei 07:49, January 10, 2010 (UTC)