Page changes discussions
I thought this was merged with Barracks.Jcc1033 12:24, 7 April 2007 (PDT)
It was originally part of the barracks page. It has come to the point where it needs its own aricle. So i moved it. feel free to add on to it.--Connor401 12:35, 7 April 2007 (PDT)
I can't help feeling that this move was a little premature and would best have been executed with prior community discussion. If this change is to remain permanent, then we need to clear up the following:
- The name of the page - Given that it is referred to as a "barrier" everywhere else, shouldn't the page title reflect this?
- The redirects would need to be fixed - EG Sonic barrier still points to Barracks
- We should take a merge vote - To see if folk want to put things back the way they were or are happy with splitting the barracks and the barrier pages.
--TechNic|talk|conts 16:38, 7 April 2007 (PDT)
How do you change the name
how do you redirct the links
how do you take a vote--Connor401 16:42, 7 April 2007 (PDT)
See this article: Lostpedia:General usage guide
The SysOps and administrators can change the names and sort redirects out for us and will do these things when a consensus is reached on the relevant talk pages. Look at Lostpedia:Community_Portal to see how we can all vote on pages for deletion, merge, rename, etc. But basically we add our thoughts on the talk pages of the appropriate page.--TechNic|talk|conts 16:49, 7 April 2007 (PDT)
Many people already agree that they should be separate. If you don't belive me click here: Talk:Barracks#Barracks.2C_Barrier.2C_and_Otherville--Connor401 17:08, 7 April 2007 (PDT)
- Keep seperate / Rename It's already played a major role in two different episodes so I would keep it seperate, especially since there's probably a few more Others revelations this season and still some important lingering questions about the barrier. Rename to either "sonic barrier" or "security perimeter". Probably better whatever Darlton call it. --Jackdavinci 23:43, 7 April 2007 (PDT)
- Rename to "Sonic barrier" and redirect "Sonic fence"--TechNic|talk|conts 13:16, 8 April 2007 (PDT)
- Rename Its a better name for it --Nintyplayer 15:13, 8 April 2007 (PDT)
- Rename I agree with Nintyplayer, it is a better name--Phil 15:29, 8 April 2007 (PDT)
- Rename I also agree, plus I think the 'F' in fence should be capital anyway.--Baker1000 15:39, 8 April 2007 (PDT)
- Rename and make Sonic fence a redirect. Jakovexc0
- Don't Rename because Juliet call it a fence, not a barrier. Make Sonic Barrier redirect Fellipec 11:31, 9 April 2007 (PDT)
- Rename Sonic Barrier sounds better -- Dee4leeds talk contribs all 08:03, 11 April 2007 (PDT)
Barrier talk
If the barrier was built during 'the purge', how would it have been effective? It seems like Kate, Sahid and John had no problems getting over it. There dont appear to be guard posts, so its a poor anti-invader fence. Why not just use an electric fence rather than some elaborate, Dr Evil-like scheme of killing with sound waves? Also, the fence is very vulnerable to just being blown up... So I dont think this fence was meant to keep humans out. Maybe polar bears or maybe the black smoke? Maybe something unknown at this point in the story? --Rjtalbot 13:10, 22 March 2007 (PDT)
- Problem is that the barrier is specifically designed to kill humans. The frequency is designed to go after something with the same resonance frequency as a human skull. I thought the whole crossing of the barrier thing was really done poorly. It should have been a whole lot harder than tipping a tree on top of a pylon. Maybe the power of the system isn't what it was and the effect no longer extends upward. In reality, the sonic effect should have extended up into the air high enough such that the tree crossing would be impossible. Otherwise its a useless fence. It could have also been designed to be effective against people (the hostiles) with no explosives and no technology. I thought the fence was a good idea. I just wish they had come with a more creative way of defeating it. Dharmatel4 15:15, 22 March 2007 (PDT)
- That is one of the several bands present in the sound spectrum. There are other bands of lower frequencies as well. Honestly, at this point, I am not even sure that the sound played in the show for the sonic barrier resembles the sound it would emit in order to function. Maybe we are reading too much into it?
Am I missing something here? Where did the idea of an electric fence come from? There are no wires seen running between the poles.. Plus, Mikhail was able to get through it, and there was no indication of any arcing between the poles. Why the sudden change in terminology? Even the official lost podcast refers to it as a sonic barrier, and even mentions the idea that the volume on it may not have been turned all the way up. --steve 12:39, 24 March 2007 (PDT)
- I undid the edit of electric fence, Mozkill is free to discuss it here with us and explain it. As far as we know though, it's a sonic barrier. Flippy 12:54, 24 March 2007 (PDT)
- I cannot agree to the term "sonic barrier", either. There is in fact no barrier--only a sonic response to an intrusion. IIRC, the show only called it a "security perimeter"--please correct if wrong. Robert K S 10:52, 28 March 2007 (PDT)
How do the Others turn it down? If the data pad is on a side of a pole, than they would've needed to enter the space between the poles thus detonating the fence.
- Since it can only be activated from that side, there would have to be a person on that side to turn it down. Meaning it's meant to be used by whoever is in control of the inside. --Sauron18 12:52, 5 April 2007 (PDT)
- My bad, it seemed to me that the pad is on the side that faces an other pole... Asgan 10:44, 6 April 2007 (PDT)
- The main article says the sonic fence can make brain damage to animals? The show dont talk at this, how we know it kill animals? Fellipec 16:04, 9 April 2007 (PDT)
- It seems obvious that if it would kill a human, an Animal would also suffer the same fate. Plus it is most likely used as a barrier against Boars to stop them getting into The Barracks.--Baker1000 07:55, 10 April 2007 (PDT)
The sonic wall
it looks like the sonic wall took about 2-3 seconds to make the (sonic) sound and then activated,, it looks like a system that takes about 5-10 seconds to fully activate and destroy the intruder. It is not like an electric fence where a lethal shock can be activated within milliseconds. I wounder if its possible to run across the fence because I don't think it will kill a person for passing very fast or even doing a head dive across the fence. you know, running really fast and when approaching the fence just do a head dive and roll or something, something action :P... what do you guys think?--mo-- (Talk | 
) 08:52, 27 March 2007 (PDT)
This theory mentioned in one of the podcasts, and the presponce was that they don't believe it was turnned up to its maximum, and thats why it took a while to kill patchy --Hit and miss 09:04, 27 March 2007 (PDT)
- Furthermore, in that same podcast, the writers suggest that he may not even be dead.
- It seemed to kind of stun him into standing still, but then again Mikhail seemed like he wanted to die.--Baker1000 08:14, 28 March 2007 (PDT)
sonic barrier gate code
just wanted to confirm in "Left Behind", it does appear that in fact the code is most likely 1623 Enturbulate
yep. frame by framed on this one. Definitely 1 (camera switch) 6 2 3. steve 09:45, 5 April 2007 (PDT)
So...the monster could quite easily fly right over the sonic wall. I think its now safe to assume it is not primarily for keeping the monster out.--Knive 05:47, 6 April 2007 (PDT)
- I disagree. Juliet turned on the fence and then cockily and confidently watched the monster slam into it. She seems like she knows about monsters and fences more than Kate does. If she wasn't sure that the barrier would stop the monster, why would she stick around to find out?
I think the code is actualy 151623 If you look at the pad there is Mud on all these numbers and if you listen carefully you hear her press 6 buttons. --Hit and miss 11:45, 8 April 2007 (PDT)
Actually, if you slow it down, you see Juliet enter 1623 into the pad--Phil 15:32, 8 April 2007 (PDT)
Yes she enters 1623, but if you listen to the sounds effects she presses 6 buttons, and you can see Mud from her finger on button 5, seeing as 12356 have mud on them its natural to conclude a buttons been pressed twice, and 15 would fit into the numbers--Hit and miss 09:53, 9 April 2007 (PDT)
Well, it is posible that she pressed 15 as well as 1623, but I only saw her press 1623--Phil 09:58, 9 April 2007 (PDT)
Its more then possible look at the mud on button 5, [1] I've listen to it a few times now and you can hear her push 6 buttons --Hit and miss 10:03, 9 April 2007 (PDT)
Yeah, i'm sure she presses 15, you see you start entering numbers, then the camera goes off of her, in the next shot she is pressing 16, she must enter something before 16.--Baker1000 10:08, 9 April 2007 (PDT)
Yeah, She probably does press 15, It's easier to see now with the picture--Phil 10:10, 9 April 2007 (PDT)