The Pilot's Name?

Anyone noticed that the name of the pilot is the same name of Desmond's Kelvin?

I'd like to see a source for naming The Pilot "Kelvin". ABC Press Releases and IMDB all have the character named as only "pilot", played by Greg Grunberg.
   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 14:57, 9 March 2006 (PST)

Hmm... is official/part of the canon? If not, whatever's said there shouldn't be here. --skks 06:48, 17 March 2006 (PST)

There are a number of explanations out there as to what the pilots name is. Let's disprove some:

  • Kelvin - Shutdown! Kelvin Joe Inman was NOT the pilot, since A) 2 different actors, and B) Kelvin "died" on the island not even minutes before the plane crashed, along with many other examples of logic.
  • Daniel Weiss (from the Drive Shaft fansite) - It's a fansite. Non-canon. False. Shutdown.
  • Hunter - Still possible. I heard one of the flight attendants getting Locke into his seat call for someone named Hunter, maybe they were referring to the pilot.
    • EDIT: Rather, it was a flight attendant at the gate calling someone named Hunter via walkie-talkie/shortwave/whatever that "we've got another one", possibly warning the pilot not to take off yet to let Hurley on.

Anyone have any other ideas/possibilities for names? Aero*Zeppelin 17:32, 10 June 2006 (PDT)

  • "Captain Stewart", paged in the airport-flashback of "Exposé" --Hunter61 00:48, 31 March 2007 (PDT)
  • He is actually named Pilot. He is from a secretive cult who names their children after the first thing their mothers see while giving birth and he was born in the kitchen... And that is why some things are never meant to be known. Hehehehe... --†††GodEmperorOfHell††† 17:39, 10 June 2006 (PDT)


Please include supporting evidence prior to inclusion of a theory in articles. - Speculation

  • The Pilot was killed to keep him from figuring out the cause of the crash or the location of the island.
  • The Pilot is Him.


  • The Pilot is not a proper noun. The initial "The" is presumably used to disambiguate it from the S1 pilot episode. However in that case, "pilot" need not be capitalized. However, as Pilot is a disambiguation page, perhaps we should name is with a parenthetical explanation instead, e.g. Pilot (person). Either one would be consistent with the rest of LP. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk 01:31, 20 October 2006 (PDT)
  • I agree that rename is a good idea, for the reasons that Santa gave. When other times we have name conflicts, we simply put a specifier in parentheses. So we could rename this to Pilot (man) or Pilot (character) or even Pilot (airline), and it would make much more sense than differentiating it with "the", which could also describe the episode. It holds greater congruency and site uniformity, and also has less ambiguity than this naming scheme, which makes no sense. I remember we used to have this similar nonsensical reasoning for differentiating "the logos" from "logos", two totally different pages. --PandoraX 12:01, 6 November 2006 (PST)


I wanted to add:

to the article, but I'd like someone to review this "theory" first. Unless it's already accepted as canon that they met. Tebor 15:15, 2 November 2006 (PST)

This was a deleted scene from season 1. I guess it can be added as long as you stress the fact that it originates from a deleted scene. (i.e may not be cannon). --Princess Dharma (banned) 06:26, 4 February 2007 (PST)

Is the Pilot an Other

It's very logical that the pilot would be an other. He could have lead the plane to the island and they could of had a dummy waiting and put it in a tree. Then he could have got back to the others camp. He is the only one who had control over where they where going and easily could have lead them to the island.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Baseball315125 (talkcontribs) .

I agree, this should go onto the theories page. --Divinetorture02:29, 27 January 2007 (PST)

He could also have been DHARMA. Either way I think it's safe to say he did indeed die. Evil-pineapples 13:47, 6 May 2007 (PDT)

Rename 2

Proposed rename to Pilot (character), it sounds much better than Pilot (man). --SilvaStorm

What about changing it back to The Pilot? Taken into context it is hard to get mixed up with Pilot, Part 1. However, I do agree yours sounds much better than Pilot (man). Kinda makes it sound like their was a "pilot woman" which I do not remember! --Divinetorture 02:21, 27 January 2007 (PST)

  • Not voting here, because frankly, I don't see the difference between Pilot (man) and Pilot (character) (they both make it clear who we're talking about) aside from the fact that we'd have to fix a bunch of redirects--but it definitely is not going back to the pilot, which goes against the article naming MOS (only proper names include "the" in the article title). --PandoraX 02:42, 27 January 2007 (PST)

Pilot (Character) It's better name then the name 'Pilot (Man)' which sounds so stupid. --James W. 13:20, 27 January 2007 (PST)

  • I also would prefer: Pilot (character) over Pilot (man) --Mr. Crabby (Talk) 06:29, 4 February 2007 (PST)
  • Rename to Pilot (Character) I agree with Mr. Crabby..The "(Man)" part sounds pretty silly (no offense to who came up with it) :)
-- 00:35, 12 February 2007 (PST)
  • Rename to Pilot (character) Looks better then (Man), (Human), (Who was killed) etc :) --Znch 04:31, 12 February 2007 (PST)
  • Rename to Pilot (Character) It just seems to make more sense. Though, Pilot (Pilot) would be perfectly accurate.--Ex-Pope Cardinal Richard Corey 22:46, 14 February 2007 (PST)
  • What about Flight 815 pilot? Although really, unless we come up with some standard method of creating titles for unnamed characters, it doesn't really matter what we call this one. --Jackdavinci 21:20, 15 February 2007 (PST)
  • Rename: but to "Pilot (flight 815)"    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 07:27, 22 February 2007 (PST)
  • Rename to Pilot (Flight 815) I agree with Jabrwocky. 'Man' and 'Character' is not specific enough. --Berethor222 21:16, 25 February 2007 (PST)
    • Concur, but Flight 815 should be capitalized. Robert K S 09:15, 19 May 2007 (PDT)
  • Rename to Pilot (Character): This name makes mor sense than the other name as you can breily see what it is more than the other name. --Pacific Gilly 1992 13:56, 19 May 2007 (PDT)

Not enough damage?

After taking a good close look at the screenshot of the pilot up in the tree, a thought struck: where are the injuries to produce that much blood? He has some severe facial lacerations, no question about that, but there is blood all down his shirt. There are no tears or visible holes of any significant scale on the shirt, yet he's soaked in blood. It doesn't seem like there's enough damage to his body to justify bleeding on that scale. I think we're overlooking something. Or, it was just done for visual impact, to get the idea across that someone could be very seriously messed up in a quick snap by this monster, yet not so bad as to have the network censors screaming. Ruling? --ConspiracyofDetails 12:14, 11 May 2007 (PDT)

Rename 3 - Pilot (Flight 815)

  • Rename to Pilot (Flight 815). Flight 815 should be capitalized--Phil (talk) 09:22, 19 May 2007 (PDT)


Shouldn't his status remain "Deceased" until we get further information? He's probably still dead and will only be seen in flashbacks in a single episode.--HaloOfTheSun 14:25, 12 November 2007 (PST)

Rename: Seth Norris

It's his name. --Sam McPherson 19:16, 7 February 2008 (PST)

So glad he finally got a name. I hope that means we'll see him again and find out why the Monster killed him.

Everyone Hates Hugo

sorry, i just can't help but ask--When was the pilot in everyone hates hugo? i dont reacall him in that episode at all, and it says its his last on-island appearance. Mia 17:42, 8 February 2008 (PST)

Wedding Ring

I found a good shot of his left hand in Pilot Part 1 that does show a wedding ring - when he sets the tranceiver down before the monster eats him. I'm going to remove that point saying he isn't wearing one. Burnside65|talk|contributions 09:20, 12 February 2008 (PST)

Request: phony corpse photo

Can anyone provide? Want to see primarily the face, not the hand. Robert K S 15:37, 10 February 2008 (PST)

Unanswered questions

"Why in one shot did Seth have a wedding ring on, and a few minutes later in another shot, the ring was not on his hand? Is this intentional or a true faux pas?"

This can't be a serious question?--Nevermore 04:48, 5 March 2008 (PST)

Gone. Even if it is true, it's not, as you say, a "serious question", it's speculation/nitpickery. See User:Robert K S/UQ sections. Robert K S 14:47, 5 March 2008 (PST)
That looks like a very good personal policy, which I personally wouldn't mind implementing as an official site policy.--Nevermore 09:39, 6 March 2008 (PST)

Greg Grunberg?

Has there been any information presented why the picture isn't of Greg Grunberg, even though that's who played the pilot? -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 05:00, 1 April 2008 (PDT)

Isn't it? I just thought it was a deliberately bad photo and a comedy moustache.--TechNic|talk|conts 05:04, 1 April 2008 (PDT)
I guess it is. It didn't look like him to me at first, but I found some more serious face shots and then I could see it. -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 07:36, 1 April 2008 (PDT)

Better Picture

In terms of canonicity, I suppose the profile picture used in this article would be the best picture of Seth Norris available. But when you think about it, it really isn't that good of picture of him. I think it'd be better if we used a screenshot of him from that deleted scene where he talks with Claire, seeing as how there's better lighting in that scene and he's not all banged up. Sure the scene itself might not be canon, but if you wanna get technical, those promotional pictures of the shows main characters that we use for their articles can't really be considered canon either. –Nahald 10:36, 30 April 2008 (PDT)

  • Pictogram voting support Absolutely. Can someone get hold of an image of him from the deleted scene. It would be much better. We could use it for the mini on the list of survivors too. Mhtmghnd 05:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Further details

On Paul Scheer's website, he posted a message regarding Seth Norris, including a brief biography and his birthdate, July 11th, 1966. Seeing as this website is part of ABC, and seeing as this is part of a new ARG, should we consider this as canon?  ODK  Talk  Sandbox  01:20, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

There is now a banner at the top of the page which indicates that this article is based on the character in the original timeline. All of the information contained under the parallel timeline section should be removed. It should be placed on the page for the flash-sideways character. Jdray 23:03, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

i am just going to go ahead with this because it conforms with every other character on the wiki. Jdray 00:27, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Half Life connection

Nism100 just posted a trivia item linking Seth Norris's corpse with a very specific video game element. This is the sort of thing I instinctively delete or move to theories... except, wow, the body really does look incredibly like those zombies he describes. Here are some pictures from the game, [1] [2] but the similarity's even stronger when the zombie body is dead and flat on the ground, as it often is. And Lost actually mentions Half-Life zombies later in the season, in "The Greater Good". --- Balk Of Fametalk 18:46, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and the pilot episode itself also uses sound effects from the game. --- Balk Of Fametalk 18:48, May 8, 2013 (UTC)
Interesting. May as well keep it, I don't see the harm in it. :)--Baker1000 (talk) 19:45, May 8, 2013 (UTC)
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