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Jabber: Huh? Copyright infringement on who, though? Spooky does not get hers entirely from closed captions and she doesn't scan in a stolen copy from TPTB or something. She does it from hearing episodes, using a DVR, and types them in by hand, sometimes with the assistance of CC. Would ABC object? And if so, why would Lost-TV host it internally without getting in trouble? --{{User:PandoraX/sig}} 13:47, 8 September 2006 (PDT)
 
Jabber: Huh? Copyright infringement on who, though? Spooky does not get hers entirely from closed captions and she doesn't scan in a stolen copy from TPTB or something. She does it from hearing episodes, using a DVR, and types them in by hand, sometimes with the assistance of CC. Would ABC object? And if so, why would Lost-TV host it internally without getting in trouble? --{{User:PandoraX/sig}} 13:47, 8 September 2006 (PDT)
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PS: Nick, Suil is just staff on the site. Spooky is the actual person who types.
 
PPS: Using fan-transcribed (informal) scripts is actually a lot lesser of a form of infringement than using screencaps from the show, actually. ABC has always had an open policy on sharing so long as it is for fansites and used for entertainment, and not profit.
   
 
:I'm not a lawyer. I'm just saying that we should be sure about the legality before we pursue it. Even Spooky's transcripts have a disclaimer about reproducing the transcripts. --{{User:Jabberwock/sig}} - 14:17, 8 September 2006 (PDT)
 
:I'm not a lawyer. I'm just saying that we should be sure about the legality before we pursue it. Even Spooky's transcripts have a disclaimer about reproducing the transcripts. --{{User:Jabberwock/sig}} - 14:17, 8 September 2006 (PDT)
   
:: How is this any worse compared to using screencaps, show logos, set pictures, and any number of other things that we do commonly on this site, and many other fan sites/wikis? All we need to do is use the same disclaimer. This site is a wiki for fan info, they know that... do you seriously think ABC would have a problem with it? We already have detailed transcripts of DJ Dan, orientation tapes, Rachel recordings, etc. --{{User:PandoraX/sig}} 14:25, 8 September 2006 (PDT)
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::How is this any worse compared to using screencaps, show logos, set pictures, and any number of other things that we do commonly on this site, and many other fan sites/wikis? All we need to do is use the same disclaimer. This site is a wiki for fan info, they know that... do you seriously think ABC would have a problem with it? We already have detailed transcripts of DJ Dan, orientation tapes, Rachel recordings, etc. --{{User:PandoraX/sig}} 14:25, 8 September 2006 (PDT)
   
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::The disclaimer says: "''...and may not be reproduced commercially without permission from ABC.''" As this is not a commercial website, there is no problem. --{{User:Phmall/sig}} 14:26, 8 September 2006 (PDT)
PS: Nick, Suil is just staff on the site. Spooky is the actual person who types.
 
PPS: Using fan-transcribed (informal) scripts is actually a lot lesser of a form of infringement than using screencaps from the show, actually. ABC has always had an open policy on sharing so long as it is for fansites and used for entertainment, and not profit.
 
   
 
Someone will donate it to us? Fine, I say: Joop! (Joop means yeah in finnish)--{{User:GodEmperorOfHell/sig}} 14:13, 8 September 2006 (PDT)
 
Someone will donate it to us? Fine, I say: Joop! (Joop means yeah in finnish)--{{User:GodEmperorOfHell/sig}} 14:13, 8 September 2006 (PDT)

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Couldn't someone just copy them and give them their own articles? Wouldn't that be easier? LOCI! 18:06, 26 June 2006 (PDT)

As long as we have permission to do so, it should be fine. I sugest a format lkike [[Man of Science, Man of Faith/Transcript]]. --Aero*Zeppelin 18:38, 20 July 2006 (PDT)

I agree with bringing the transcripts here; but its gonna be a long and repetetive job. --Phmall 14:42, 3 August 2006 (PDT)


Internal Transcripts

OK, with the internal transcripts, I agree with some of the above that we should have our own transcripts HERE, on lostpedia. Transcripts are the ultimate form of canon. Though we will never have access to official transcripts, Spooky's on Lost TV are VERY well done, don't know how often people use them, but I use them all the time, and I know she is careful and meticulous, and I trust her versions. I Pm'd her over at Lost-TV (I have spoken to her in the past), and asked her if she had any exclusivity clause with LostTV, and she said no, and she was willing to let us have internal cut and pastes for lostpedia. I also give Suil Liath, who runs the forum there, and she is ok with it. I would like to link credit somewhere on the page, of course, but I think it is a valuable resource (for God's sakes, we have DJ Dan's stuff 100% transcribed, and that's not even show material). What do you guys think? It will mean 50 new pages on lostpedia. I am willing to do it, but it is mostly cut and paste with credit to Spooky. Any other suggestions for format? Any serious *objections*? --PandoraX 13:43, 8 September 2006 (PDT)

Hosting entire transcripts here is borderline copyright infringement. I think we would want to get some permission first. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 13:44, 8 September 2006 (PDT)

Suil Liath says its ok, so whats the issue? Unless she never transcribed them herself --Nickb123 (Talk) 13:45, 8 September 2006 (PDT)

Jabber: Huh? Copyright infringement on who, though? Spooky does not get hers entirely from closed captions and she doesn't scan in a stolen copy from TPTB or something. She does it from hearing episodes, using a DVR, and types them in by hand, sometimes with the assistance of CC. Would ABC object? And if so, why would Lost-TV host it internally without getting in trouble? --PandoraX 13:47, 8 September 2006 (PDT)

PS: Nick, Suil is just staff on the site. Spooky is the actual person who types. PPS: Using fan-transcribed (informal) scripts is actually a lot lesser of a form of infringement than using screencaps from the show, actually. ABC has always had an open policy on sharing so long as it is for fansites and used for entertainment, and not profit.

I'm not a lawyer. I'm just saying that we should be sure about the legality before we pursue it. Even Spooky's transcripts have a disclaimer about reproducing the transcripts. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 14:17, 8 September 2006 (PDT)
How is this any worse compared to using screencaps, show logos, set pictures, and any number of other things that we do commonly on this site, and many other fan sites/wikis? All we need to do is use the same disclaimer. This site is a wiki for fan info, they know that... do you seriously think ABC would have a problem with it? We already have detailed transcripts of DJ Dan, orientation tapes, Rachel recordings, etc. --PandoraX 14:25, 8 September 2006 (PDT)
The disclaimer says: "...and may not be reproduced commercially without permission from ABC." As this is not a commercial website, there is no problem. --Phmall 14:26, 8 September 2006 (PDT)

Someone will donate it to us? Fine, I say: Joop! (Joop means yeah in finnish)--†††GodEmperorOfHell††† 14:13, 8 September 2006 (PDT)

Exactly. Saves us a job! --Nickb123 (Talk) 14:16, 8 September 2006 (PDT)