This article actually lacks an image of the other others, I tried to upload the most detailed screenshot there is (right after Juliet returns fire), but do not have permission. I assume this is because I am a new account. Pirate4314 00:17, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Damon and Carlton

Not sure if it merits mention in the article itself but Damon and Carlton were asked about the other Others in an interview here, and mention that they know who was in the canoes but weren't able to work the answer into an episode to their satisfaction. (article doesn't have any spoilers) Tagmata 00:21, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Don't tell me that! That was the no'1 mystery I was looking forward to having solved, oh well nevermind. You should definitely include an excerpt from that interview into the article though. Pirate4314 05:45, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
While I'm disappointed to hear this news, I've pretty much suspected it for months, just based on where all the characters are and where the outrigger canoes are. I do think this belongs in the article (and possibly in the trivia section of "The Little Prince"), because undoubtedly many fans will continue to ask about it. --Celebok 19:39, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

How to be a writer for Lost

This basically another proof of the way these guys write the story. They just make shit up as they go, adding as much drama and suspense to an episode around some new question that they make the audience believe they're going to eventually answer. The audience believes that because that's how they've been taught that stories are told. When you watch a movie, and the camera zooms in on something, it makes you think.. okay, that thing is significant. If it turns out to not be significant, it's considered to be an error in story telling, unless it's some kind of a new-fangled avant-guard filmmaking style which breaks the rules for the sake of breaking the rules. But I digress.

My point is, they throw these things into an episode, and it makes the episode cool, and interesting, and suspenseful. But suspense expects conclusion. Without conclusion, a different message sent: you are not supposed to know the ending. But that's not what these guys are doing. They're throwing together a bunch of unorganized building blocks and then decide how they will come together.

There is no *running out of time*. That argument doesn't hold water when you also say that the whole thing was worked out ahead of time. So, unless you know you're going to conclude a story, then don't start it, unless your intent is to leave things hanging. If that were the choice, fine. But it's not. And in this case, it's just bad story-telling. That's okay, it's better than what most people could have accomplished. kasajian 19:59, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

I dunno dude, I didn't bother that much. I guess I've kinda enjoyed guessing/theorizing about who was in the other canoes. Plus you never know, they might reveal who was meant to be in them after the show has ended, positive thoughts lol. Pirate4314 21:00, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
Well, they did say they're not intending to reveal those things. They want the "show to speak for itself". I love the show, which is why this bugs me. I believe that it will be a "joke" in a few years, and there will be parodies of its style of storytelling. But the again, I could be wrong, and this could be the new trend.
It was probably Cesar doing the shooting. They had set him up as a new character and then bam, he's dead. Unless there had been more in mind for him, there wasn't any reason to introduce him.Annarboral 02:42, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
They did. Look at the actor's page and I think there's a link to a interview where he says that he was meant to be in season 6 and have a important part setting up the finale but had to turn it down due to some films he was going to be in. --Golden Monkey 02:51, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
Seems like a bad move on his part, might have been TV royalty.Annarboral 04:15, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


Noticing that "outrigger chase" is a redirect to this page, I feel that's a much better title than the silly, informal title "The other Others," which is also non-descriptive and is more defining the people on the other boat rather than the scene itself and its larger context as a notable unsolved mystery, which is the content of the article. ShadowUltra 15:43, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yes Absolutely. We're in a bad state when we name articles after Sawyer's nicknames. They're also almost certainly not Others. Of course the aticle is now organized to cover the people, not the event. We can change that. --- Balk Of Fametalk 16:28, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
Yes Agreed. --Dharmafolk 17:25, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
Yes Change it!!! -- Julietfan2626 Talk Blogs
Yes Agree to rename! --  Blackout0189    talk    contribs    email   22:58, August 27, 2010 (UTC)


Does anybody think we should edit the page to say this was answered, you probably all already know that the Black Rock Journal (Already in the article) explains who the people in the other outrigger were. So should we change it, or is that not considered canon?

--GrinningTurtle 17:07, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, we should. A lot of us chose to ignore the answer when we got it because we didn't like it, but that is the answer. --- Balk Of Fametalk 23:58, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

But something I don't understand. If the Black Rock crew never had a chance to get onto the beach camp, is that means the 2 outriggers that found on the beach has no related to Black Rock? So, the Black Rock crew were on the 3rd outrigger, right? Also, I used to think one of the outrigger that found on the beach was the one used by Karl, am I wrong?Sroczynski 02:22, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Beth's words

Moving this here. I see no evidence of it on the podcast itself: --- Balk Of Fametalk 01:13, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

On September 24th 2010 Beth stated through the GJB podcast that it was Ben whom was intended to be shooting at the outrigger. "Okay, so here's the deal regarding the OUTRIGGER ISSUE: We went back and looked at the scripts, but since new pages were put in that deleted the scene and the original pages were tossed, we don't know specifics on the answer to the outrigger scene. BUT, when we listened to the unedited GJB for #604, we say that it was BEN in the other boat shooting at them"

  • do you have a link to this info?--Mrnotwen (talk) 23:42, October 6, 2012 (UTC)
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