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Move the article

  • I propose we move the article to a more fitting title, like "Omar (freighter)". -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  19:27, 28 February 2008 (PST)
  • Agreed This would help due to the confusion with Sayid's Omar... --     Nusentinsaino     talk    contribs    email   19:29, 28 February 2008 (PST)
  • Agreed Probably we will see him more later ;p not only in The Constant, maybe we knowledge to know his last name later too, this could conclude the problem ;p -Shadowriver 17:40, 29 February 2008 (PST)
  • Agreed context should always be preferred over episode title for disambiguation, since most characters can easily appear in later episodes. - Tvb 19:08, 15 March 2008 (PDT)
  • What do you guys think about "Omar (freighter crew)"? The parenthetical of just "freighter" makes it seem like he's a boat, a la Elizabeth (sailboat). Robert K S (talk) 19:38, 15 March 2008 (PDT)
    • A reasonable suggestion. - Tvb 06:55, 16 March 2008 (PDT)

Rename

I apologize for having acted before bringing this before the Talk page. I propose we make this freighter crew "Omar" the main Omar for the following reasons:

    • Sayid's Omar was a one-time flashback character from Season 1 - probably never to be seen / referenced again.
    • This new Omar is active in current Lost happenings, his presence now spanning over 4 eps (4.5-4.8). Inevitably, as he is more active in the plot, many new Omar links (referring to the freighter crew member) will be popping up because...
      • ...people will be too lazy to make sure there's only one Omar...
      • ...people will not remember there is an Omar from a Season 1 Sayid flashback...
...so I think it is in our best interest to help them out and make this Omar THE Omar. I have already gone through and insured that all links referring to Sayid's Omar redirect to Omar (Solitary). As far as the Omar page, the only redirection links that exist are currently Omar (freighter crew) (which is currently serving as the article's home base) and Omar (The Constant) (which is only linked to in Season 4 and Portal:Freighter - articles I, personally, can't edit). What do you guys think?--Overworkedirish 23:42, 22 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Rename to Omar I forgot there was another Omar, so I know that it will happen again. --Ohmyn0 (talk) 22:01, 25 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Rename I too forgot about the other Omar. I'm sure this Omar will become more important as the season continues. BETTYFIZZW (Talk) 11:41, 28 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Rename to Omar with disamb to other one. -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 21:09, 29 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Now there's Omer (Yarrah) as well, we definitly need a disambiguition --LOST-Hunter61 14:58, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

"The Shape of Things to Come"

Was Omar a redshirt/killed in this episode? Did anyone see his face in the mercenaries? ---- LOSTonthisdarnisland 04:58, 25 April 2008 (PDT)

I don't know; we actually only know for sure that one mercenary was attacked by the monster; we don't even know that that mercenary is dead (though I'm sure he is).C.m. 15:06, 25 April 2008 (PDT)

Thoughts on Omar

I don't think Omar has had a single spoken line yet (as of "the Shape of Things to Come.") I find it weird that he was specifically introduced at the same time as Keamy, yet he's been such a non-entity and is actually one of about 6 mercenaries. What makes him more noteworthy than other other mercs?C.m. 15:04, 25 April 2008 (PDT)

We don't know that he's a mercenary. He doesn't have a gun in the skeet-shooting scene. He might just be a deckhand. --Pyramidhead 02:26, 29 April 2008 (PDT)
He's got a pretty good-looking toy gun, then. :-) Robert K S (talk) 06:05, 29 April 2008 (PDT)
4x08 Keamy's got a gun
Thanks Robert for getting that image. Also, he was cast specifically as a military-type, and along with Keamy, was called as virtual bodyguards on the freighter when Ray sounded the alarm in the sick bay.--Overworkedirish 13:32, 29 April 2008 (PDT)
Omar actually has had several lines... "We last ported Fiji, so at least we know we're still in the Pacific" being his most noteworthy. I agree that he's nothing more than a background character and it's a little weird that he was introduced alongside Keamy, but he HAS had dialouge. Evil-pineapples 19:51, 29 April 2008 (PDT)
We should change the very description of him - he is a mercenary, not a crew member. Malachi 13:07, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

Not on the island

The injured merc is not Omar. --Pyramidhead 07:48, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

  • Agreed, they look nothing a like; and he wasn't even credited as a guest star this episode. Infact, he wasn't even in this episode.Marko 14:04, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

That's strange. The first impression I had when seeing the injured merc was that it was Omar. He didn't have a speaking role, perhaps this is why he wasn't credited? -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  14:14, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

  • I also think it was not Omar. And I mean, they credited John Terry for his 2 seconds of sitting-in-a-chair, so apparently they do (sometimes) credit non speaking roles. --DJVok 01:33, 3 May 2008 (PDT)
    • Omar has not appeared in neither "The Shape of Things to Come" nor "Something Nice Back Home". Ever references to these episodes ought to be removed. Pierre80 03:05, 3 May 2008 (PDT)
      • I agree as well, there has been no mention of his name in that episode transcript or the cast list, and the only way to determine that it was really him would to get confirmation by one of the producers. TheDharmaVan 09:59, 3 May 2008 (PDT)

Omar - Freighter Merc

Should Omar be moved to "Major Freightie" or should he remain as a "Minor Freightie" ? We see that he's Keamy's second-in-command for the mercs, and he's always seen with Keamy. (Except when Keamy goes to kill Michael, and when Gault and Keamy pull out Ben's file.) Marko 17:37, 13 May 2008 (PDT)

  • I think we should wait and evaluate it once we see his role in the finale episodes.--Overworkedirish 18:04, 13 May 2008 (PDT)
We don't know that he's second in command.C.m. 06:29, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
  • ...well, we know he, along with Keamy, were the top mercs called down to the sickbay when the alarm button was pressed; we also know he was the one aiding Keamy with putting on his device; and we know he was in charge of watching the two mercs carrying Mayhew back from the chopper. Again though, I don't think we can evaluate whether or not that's relevant as far as his status as 'major' or 'minor'.--Overworkedirish 16:25, 20 May 2008 (PDT)

Appearances in 4x09 and 4x10

Throughout the second half of Season 4, 6 mercs have been shown raiding the barracks and after 1 being killed by the Monster, 5 (including Omar) returned to the Island where they were all killed. In 4x09 and 4x10, Anthony Azizi is not credited in playing Omar yet an unnamed merc is seen in both these episodes. This unnamed merc is clarely shown to be bald in 4x10 and having black camo over his face like Redfern. In 4x11, we clearly see Omar (played by Anthony Azizi) being one of the ones getting off the chopper. Is it possible that Azizi was not available at the time and an extra (who hasn't been seen since 4x10) was used as a stand in for Omar and that black camo was used to help disguise this? I believe this is so and should be included in the appearance section and his bio. HolySock92 11:19, 6 June 2008 (PDT)

Omar4x10

It can't be Keamy, who's in the front of the group-of-three, on the right side of the screen. It can't be Lacour, who's in the front of the group-of-three, on the left side of the screen. It can't be Redfern, who is a member of the group-of-three, on the right side of the screen. It can't be Mayhew, the injured man in the middle of the group-of-three. I originally believed that the barely-seen mystery mercenary that's walking behind the group-of-three was supposed to be Omar, but that man has Kocol's hat, stance, and gait. And the man you have circled doesn't look like Kocol. That leaves Omar. So if you want to say that the man you've circled in red in this picture is Omar played by a different actor--I'd say you were right. Robert K S (talk) 12:51, 8 June 2008 (PDT)
Agreed with Robert KS. It has to be Omar. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  09:25, 20 June 2008 (PDT)
Sorry if I missed something but is it now fact that he was on the island during 4x09 and 4x10? In 4x11 didn't Omar tell the doctor he got a call about the doctor being in trouble? I can't really remember exactly what he said, but could it mean he took the call? I don't know for certain, I'll have to watch again. -- User:Benjamin Linus is Not a Horse

rename

  • No, Omar recurred enough to justify a bracket-free article title, as opposed to this guy. --Orhan94 22:19, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
  • No, and besides, he's classified as a mercenary and not as Kahana crew.  Robert K S   tell me  22:26, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

rename again

As seen in the lost auction preview, the clipboard with freighter crew names shown "Regina Bell", "Omar Idris", "Brandon Gibarian", etc...Yk linus 17:45, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

  • Pictogram voting oppose The same prop has Keamy's name listed as JD Keamy, which we know is wrong. It's worthy trivia, that's for sure, but I'm not sure if we should consider it canon. --LeoChris 20:27, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting support Agree to rename --  Blackout0189    talk    contribs    email   23:03, August 6, 2010 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting oppose We already know that prop details not shown on-screen are not canon. --Celebok 02:52, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting support Full name revealed in a valid source. LOST-Malachi 17:14, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting support Agree to rename as there are valid source. kindaichi 18:20, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting oppose Celebok is correct, prop details shown are not considered canon. --Just Sayin' JSTalk LBC LBCTalk eMail 18:26, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting oppose Ought to go in the trivia section, though.  Robert K S   tell me  19:39, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting oppose Per Celebok. Plus I think they only have Regina's surname as "Bell" simply because it was the surname of the actress who played her. Not sure about the other two though, Anthony Azizi played Omar.--Baker1000 23:03, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting oppose could make a good trivia point though! Metroid101 20:12, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
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