The surgeon in the commercial looks like Christian Shepherd! --Angeleyz43 16:15, 30 May 2008 (PDT) ANGELEYZ43

Agreed. --Lurgis 05:00, 31 May 2008 (PDT)
Another observation, when the screen is dark and the jobs are scrolling, it looks like Jacob is in his chair on the right side of the screen
it looks more like it is just an arbitrary flying through space background to me, looks like galaxies and distant stars.--Ximfinity 14:52, 3 June 2008 (PDT)

If you go to you get a Fatal Error.

What does the word plesk mean?--Mc peko 02:25, 31 May 2008 (PDT)

"Plesk allows a server administrator to set up new websites, e-mail accounts, and DNS entries through a web-based interface. The administrator can create client and site templates, which predetermine resource allocation parameters for the domains and/or clients." dposse 08:05, 1 June 2008 (PDT)

I found this site, where the domain was registered the same day as the rest of the octagon recruiting sites, but it has completely different whois and is hosted on a seperate servers ( I'm fairly certain its OOG--Ximfinity 18:42, 1 June 2008 (PDT)

Odd little website. If it's relevant, they went to a lot of trouble to make it seem like something else . . . --Lurgis 05:51, 2 June 2008 (PDT)

@ sign

The input email only allows American settings - so inputting " on a UK keyboard gives you an @ and vice versa --Scorpiusdiamond 04:43, 31 May 2008 (PDT)

I had no problems with entering the @ sign using shift+2 --Ximfinity 07:26, 31 May 2008 (PDT)10:25, 31 May 2008 (EST)


Where is engineers listed twice? I couldn't find the second one in the commercial, and the list in the article only has it once. If it is in the commercial's list twice, our list should reflect that, if it's not listed twice, the piece of trivia needs removed. --Gluphokquen Gunih 09:29, 1 June 2008 (PDT)

Once between "Botanical Researchers" and "Builders", another time between "Janitors" and "Biologists". What could it mean? Robert K S (talk) 08:17, 2 June 2008 (PDT)
How'd I miss that, I read that list like 6 times looking for it, lol. Thanks --Gluphokquen Gunih 12:28, 2 June 2008 (PDT)


The remaining letters - EABEJNCHDBEBMPZPPM - spell out "outofandstothereeh" using a monoalphabetic cipher (NSVHPJXMFIQWGCEYRZDBAOKLTU => abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz) I'm deleted this. "out of and sto there eh." it doesn;t mean anything. Also considering that the cipher is in no real order, unless we can site where the cipher came from this is just trying to force a message to appear. --Gluphokquen Gunih 08:44, 4 June 2008 (PDT)

If someone can site the cipher or explain out of and sto there eh, i have no problem re adding it. --Gluphokquen Gunih 08:46, 4 June 2008 (PDT)
I have no idea what the proposed translation is supposed to mean, but the concept of a monoalphabetic cipher is well-known and there shouldn't need to be any explanation about what one is or how they are derived. The remark that there is "no real order" seems less insightful than one that would point out that the solution order perhaps has not yet been found. Robert K S (talk) 11:51, 4 June 2008 (PDT)
So with a monoalphabetic cipher, you just keep trying different substitutions until one works? Most ciphers I'ved used either have some order (sliding the alphabet around a=c b=d, etc) or if there's no order, the cipher key came from somewhere. --Gluphokquen Gunih 12:23, 4 June 2008 (PDT)
" just keep trying different substitutions until one works?"--Ultimately, the comprehensible meaning of the decoded messages is the indicator of a successful substitution, yes, but typically one starts a key by creating a frequency plot of cipher symbols that aligns with the frequency plot of a known alphabet. Frequency and entropy are the most helpful statistics to rely upon before heuristic methods are implemented. Robert K S (talk) 12:56, 4 June 2008 (PDT)
Sounds good. now if only the message made sense :) --Gluphokquen Gunih 13:26, 4 June 2008 (PDT)
Like a lot of others have, I played around with the toy decrypter here and only found frustration. My best guess is that the last word is "soon". Robert K S (talk) 14:22, 4 June 2008 (PDT)
Mabie we are missing a keyword?
I don't know if it means much, but the remaining letters after the cypher can be anagramed to spell "Death unto Others foe". probably just coincidence because it would take a hell of a lot of planning for that and no one might have noticed.

Shadow bunny

Is the shadow bunny a coincidence? When watching the video clip, look at the shape of the left hand holding the beaker. It appears to be a shadow puppet of a rabbit. Thought it might be a reference to the numbered white rabbits that appeared in Orchid Orientation Video and in the episode "Every Man for Himself". Any thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lostfan1218 (talkcontribs) 2008-06-10T10:57:38.

Job Titles = LOST Characters

It seems to me that a majority of the job descriptions are references to LOST characters, usually actual jobs that they have held. Here is the list:

Many of the missing slots could easily be filled in by various members of either The Others or the DHARMA Initiative. Bookhouse88 10:57, 13 June 2008 (PDT)

Insightful. I like it. Robert K S (talk) 14:30, 13 June 2008 (PDT)
Michael could be a possible architect because he worked in construction which may imply architecture.--Jinx 23:22, 14 June 2008 (PDT)
Well, I think his construction background is probably closer to "Builder", which I am adding him to. I have a feeling we have met an architect somewhere on the show, but I can't quite place my finger on it. Bookhouse88 14:07, 15 June 2008 (PDT)
Prominent characters as of the end of season 4, who aren't yet represented by a job on the list are: Kate, Sawyer, John Locke, Jin, Claire, Aaron, Charlotte, Frank Lapidus, Charles Widmore, Matthew Abaddon, Richard Alpert and Rose Nadler. Bookhouse88 20:42, 15 June 2008 (PDT)
Jin could be added to ex-military as he was drafted when he was 18 I believe...--Jinx 20:44, 15 June 2008 (PDT)
  • I added a few things, the remaining empty spots are hard to fill without speculating.
  • "An engineer is a person who is professionally engaged in a field of engineering. Engineers are concerned with developing economical and safe solutions to practical problems, by applying mathematics and scientific knowledge while considering technical constraints.[1][2] As such, the work of engineers is the link between perceived needs of society and commercial applications. Some consider this trade to be the link between art and science." from wiki
  • Until we learn what specific fields of engineering, and what Others and Dharma workers' specific jobs are/were, it would be hard to put names to the two vague headings "engineer".

Themodernmoppet 16:03, 18 June 2008 (PDT)themodernmoppet

  • Why is Beatrice listed as Parapsychologist?????????????????
    • Her questions to Michael about Walt were very parapsychology-ish. Asking if he'd ever appeared in places he shouldn't be, etc. Bookhouse88 17:36, 19 June 2008 (PDT)
  • Jin could count as an ichthyologist as he's got fishing experience. Alib999 14:05, 19 June 2008 (PDT)
  • WOW! Makes me think that just like Jack and the Losties all "Have to go back", DHARMA is recruiting people to make their return trip to the island!!!! Im almost positive that they "all" have to go back too (the they being the us who have all signed up for this thing - because we have all probably been there before...WE have to go back!!!). The mission of OCTOGON is to recreate DHARMA on the island...just like it was before! Its a race between DHARMA and the Losties to get there! Time loops away!Matt 14:35, 19 June 2008 (PDT)
  • May I refer you to an idea I had quite some time ago:
  • I think it fits even better now, no? Kisonakl 19:15, 20 June 2008 (PDT)
    • It's getting pretty close, yes. Bookhouse88 08:13, 26 June 2008 (PDT)
  • Pierre Cheng reveals in the Comic Con video that he is an astrophysicist, so that nearly completes this list, except for Engineers, Recycling Coordinators and a few other iffy categories. Bookhouse88 18:04, 20 August 2008 (PDT)

Vote on Moving Character/Job Comparison to Main Article

MOVE Now that I see how well the list turned out, I'm wondering if maybe we should move this to the main article. Please vote MOVE or STAY. Bookhouse88 20:28, 14 June 2008 (PDT)

  • While I love the list, I vote Stay, until we have a character for every job. Moving the list, with 16 ???'s seems sloppy. --Gluphokquen Gunih 20:38, 14 June 2008 (PDT)
  • Stay, only factual information gets put in the article space. This is sort of a speculative fan game. Robert K S (talk) 14:20, 15 June 2008 (PDT)
  • Stay. To esoteric.--Mc peko 15:42, 19 June 2008 (PDT)
  • Stay - It's an interesting exercise, but it's completely speculative. I bet you could just as easily fill out the list of occupations with the directors and crew of LOST (or muppets or Doctor Who monsters for that matter). --Doc 10:47, 26 June 2008 (PDT)

6-19 email

just got an email from octagon at about 7:48 am EDT. this is pretty interesting. it pretty much announces the event at comic con and says that the "full recruitment program will be made available online" after july 27th. also, the email includes a cc to someone named Hans Van Eeghen. i wonder what happens if you email him! --Nathew 05:19, 19 June 2008 (PDT)

  • I just sent an email to him. This is what I received back:

Thank you for your email. I am currently on assignment in the field. I will contact you as soon as I am back in the office.





Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Dharma Initiative or its subsidiaries unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed.


Hmmm--Baker1000 06:17, 19 June 2008 (PDT)

  • If you view the source of the original e-mail it says "March has 32 days" in the meta section Atlantis 06:21, 19 June 2008 (PDT)
  • Also, in the headers, it says: "mailed-by". Bryce 06:30, 19 June 2008 (PDT)
    • Hmm, It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the authorised recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the authorised recipient), you must not use, disclose, print, copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. -- Surely they'll allow us to share this information with Lostpedians ;-) --Nickb123 (Talk) 07:17, 19 June 2008 (PDT)
      • Hey Baker1000, I've included what you got in the trivia section of the article. Normally I wait for other sources, but let's be honest you're a trusted user by now! --Nickb123 (Talk) 07:21, 19 June 2008 (PDT)
      • Thanks Nick! I'm looking forward to this ARG already.--Baker1000 07:31, 19 June 2008 (PDT)
    • I got the same reply as Baker1000 --   Steff    talk    contribs    email   07:33, 19 June 2008 (PDT)
      • Cheers Steff, sorry I reverted you, I just think it is trivia and so should be under there unless we start a clues thing again (though I'm weary of doing that so early when we don't even know what this new ARG is called yet!). --Nickb123 (Talk) 07:35, 19 June 2008 (PDT)
        • I had it in the main part of the article, but I agree it should stay as trivia until we see where they're going. I think everyone reads the trivia sections here anyway, it's usually the most interesting stuff! --Lurgis 07:36, 19 June 2008 (PDT)
          • True that. By the way, interesting that they release this around 1pm UK time. TPTB giving us Europeans some love. --Nickb123 (Talk) 07:37, 19 June 2008 (PDT)
            • OK.. i just thought that more people will see it if it is right under the mail. Can't wait the new ARG to start!!! And the European timing is GREAT!! I was tired of staying till 4-5am for the new clues for Find815 --   Steff    talk    contribs    email   07:40, 19 June 2008 (PDT)
  • I recieved the email and was looking on the web site and playing around with some various URL's, I tried one that was and it gave me this response:

Forbidden You don't have permission to access /site/emails/ on this server.


Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Server at Port 80

I just thought I would mention it, does anyone know what port 80 means?--Jinx 15:12, 19 June 2008 (PDT)

Port 80 is the standard TCP port for HTTP - it's nothing significant with regards to LOST. --Doc 10:19, 20 June 2008 (PDT)

I didn't get a reply but I didn't write back immediately. Anyone else didn't get a response? Jared 02:31, 23 June 2008 (PDT)


I'm new here, so I'm not sure where this should go. When looking at the live headers of the octagon site, the FLV (video) loads from which is owned by Limelight Networks. I think this is just the marketing company that developed the site, but it might be worth poking around over there.

Forgot to add that the octagon site also loads from, the top level domain for Australia!

Luketheobscure 09:40, 19 June 2008 (PDT)

It is Official, this is a new ARG!

After looking through the source codes for the opening video I found this source:

As you can see the files are being stored in a folder called "Lost_4.5" this proves that this is an Alternate Reality Game meant to be played between the 4th and 5th seasons (4.5) --Rollinrevue 14:24, 19 June 2008 (PDT)

Isn't that an internal IP address? There's no way any one outside of that network can access it through that link.--LOST-4 (Talk) 05:39, 20 June 2008 (PDT)

I know there is no way to access it I am merely showing that the folder it is stored in is "Lost_4.5" thus proving that this is a ARG, meant to be played during the hiatus between season 4 and 5. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rollinrevue (talkcontribs) 2008-06-20T09:06:42.

I'd say 'suggests' not 'proves'. Sign posts.--Mc peko 07:11, 20 June 2008 (PDT)

External link

Do we really need a link to some Hebrew fan-blog??! Does it hold any real encyclopedic merit? --Nickb123 (Talk) 05:11, 20 June 2008 (PDT)

No. And it seems to me it's about Lost in general, not Octagon.--Mc peko 05:14, 20 June 2008 (PDT)

Octagon Global Research Source

Ok, so i know im not the only one to find . the site brings you to a blank page that says "Octagon Global Research coming soon...". So do a source of the page... (forgive me if this posting format is improper) #######################################
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"


Octagon Global Research coming soon...
<-- 4 8 15 16 23 42 -->
note the numbers in the source (i edited it to display it was commented out) fun!
i followed the link in the source and it brings you to another source looking page. my best guess is it is a template webpage. real big though, so im scanning for anything a little more insightful. Figured id throw it out as no one else ive seen brought this webpage up. Matt 13:32, 26 June 2008 (PDT)

That is a link to W3C. It's a ducument type definition. A standard xhtml thing that has nothing to do with Lost. Nice find with the numbers.--Mc peko 07:35, 27 June 2008 (PDT)

Given that the WHOIS and IP information for are very different from, I suspect it's a fan site. --Doc 12:19, 2 July 2008 (PDT)

When you go to you get a website of a Georg Pedersen who appears to be an artist of some sort. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with anything LOST.Rwarrengill3 06:50, 21 July 2008 (PDT)

New email and website!

DarkUFO has posted this [1]. Hmm, the second part is interesting. Seems like we might have a new Rachel Blake style character that wants to expose Dharma.--Baker1000 05:06, 18 July 2008 (PDT)

I'm not questioning the validity, I mean it sounds perfectly legit, but we'll wait til more than one person receives the email. I mean, we're all signed up but haven't heard anything yet. I think we should hold off. And, side note, since when did Dark start calling his blog the "no#1 fansite for the TV show Lost" lol? --Nickb123 (Talk) 05:46, 18 July 2008 (PDT)
Yeah, he's No. 2 def. :D --Blueeagleislander 05:48, 18 July 2008 (PDT)
I got the email earlier this morning, too. It has a similar link at the bottom to the Octagon site as the first message, "".Bryce 07:37, 18 July 2008 (PDT)
Just got it! It appears to be sent out in waves or something. --Blueeagleislander 07:41, 18 July 2008 (PDT)
Okiedokie, all systems go then. What shall we do about DHARMA Wants You though... --Nickb123 (Talk) 08:13, 18 July 2008 (PDT)

Octagon Global Recruiting at Comic-Con

Ok, so I just got back from the first night of Comic-Con. I found the booth for Octagon Global Recruiting rather quickly and signed up immediatly. They gave me a waiver form to fill out and an appointment time. Once it was time to go, I entered the booth. Inside the octagon shaped room their are at least 2 cameras in the ceiling, 2 people inside, a set of headphones to wear, and a television screen hooked up to alot of equipment (Probably a computer). There are 10 tests on screen and the two men told me to pick one. Once the test began, they show you images and tell you to say the first thing that pops in your head. The images are very bizzarre, so they kinda confuse you for a sec or two. I got the feeling that the questions were timed. Then they ask you odd questions like "You just took away a child's favorite toy. Why?" and you have to answer those quickly. The test takes about 5 minutes. After that, your done. I haven't had a chance to ask anyone else how they did, but when I finished, I was told that I passed and to be at the Lost Panel on Saturday and to have my test sheet with me and to not give it to anyone else. If you have any questions or want some pics, email me at

You're awesome! --Nickb123 (Talk) 03:58, 24 July 2008 (PDT)
That's great, wish I could be there. Anyways, I saw the picture on the main page of the blonde women and I'm wondering if we should make a page for her. She would be of course a minor character, but it would be good to document everything. She has said that she has worked there for 5 years, I'm not sure if that would warrant an article...--Jinx 12:16, 24 July 2008 (PDT)
I dunno, she's just an attendant. They were probs all just given cover stories, hence why she answered some questions but couldn't comment on others (ones she didn't know). --Nickb123 (Talk) 12:18, 24 July 2008 (PDT)
Well, then we should probably make a page displaying either all of them and some of their comments or an article for their story. If we could send a message to someone in attendance and have them try to find out what they were told, and what their story was. Also, I'm wondering burncycle16, have you gone in with a blue tooth or anything like that?--Jinx 12:22, 24 July 2008 (PDT)
As attendants they are non-significant to the ARG though, only the information they give (which has been recorded). --Nickb123 (Talk) 12:24, 24 July 2008 (PDT)
Okay, I just hope that we have documentations and transcripts of everything they have said as part of the story.--Jinx 12:27, 24 July 2008 (PDT)
Yea, I went in with a bluetooth headset on and clearly visible as well as my cell phone with bluetooth enabled. All that happened was that I was told to take off the bluetooth so that I could put on the headphones. On another note, your supposed to turn in the sheet if you passed and they give you a plastic card with a serial number on the front and a barcode on back. That is what you are supposed to take to the Lost Panel.
Interesting. They told you to take it off because of the headset, maybe something went wrong with the blue tooth part of the event or maybe something else. Have you checked your cell phone and blue tooth for any information that might have been sent to it, or maybe pictures?--Jinx 14:28, 24 July 2008 (PDT)
yea, I've tried using bluetooth throughout the entire day from both the cell phone and bluetooth device. neither have had any reaction but I will continue to do so until I leave or something happens. If yall have any suggestions, I am your guinea pig so feel free to ask. If yall can come up with some questions for the dharma people, I wouldn't mind asking them either. - burncycle16

There is a post and some photos that confirm the test name here [2] The tests are named after some of the moons of Jupiter. the names of the tests are 1) Io 2) Europa 3) Ganymede 4) Callisto 5) Amalthea 6) Himalia 7) Elara 8) Leda. Fredcar 02:07, 25 July 2008 (PDT)

I found this video someone made inside the booth:, thought you'd be interested :) TimoVink

Here's some links

Hope these help! The thing Talk 15:10, 8 August 2008 (PDT)

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