Talk: Not in Portland

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Not sure what the source is but Wikipedia for lost now lists Not in Portland as the seventh episode. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_in_Portland

"Not in Portland" is now official! (I wasn't sure where to post that)

ABC released promotional photos of "Not in Portland", with a confirmation to the episode's title. [1] (click on "View Full Caption"). Obi-DanKenobi 07:02, 12 January 2007 (PST)

In the return episode, "Not in Portland," Jack is in command as the fate of Ben's life literally rests in his hands. Meanwhile, Kate and Sawyer find an ally in one of "The Others," and Juliet makes a shocking decision that could endanger her standing with her people.

Not in Portland has been confirmed for a couple days now...are we waiting for the guest list or something? Anyway, glad that's all been settled about the title! ShadowUltra 08:45, 14 January 2007 (PST)

Season 3/prespoilers

Um...

Okay, I found this picture on this website and I wasn't sure where to put it. I read the policy on new episode articles, but it didn't say anything about pictures as a form of confirmation. I'm starting to think I should've put this on the Season 3 prespoilers page, but as you can see, I'm new and still figuring this all out...ShadowUltra 19:16, 24 October 2006 (PDT)

Don't even see the picture, and pictures don't count.--Captain Insano 13:01, 25 October 2006 (PDT)

But it does seem like a great tidbit for the prespoilers page -Beardog4314 14:27, 25 October 2006 (PDT)

Pictures

Higlight to read possible spoilers: This site has a picture of Juliet talking to a professor person, and an actual clip of said professor getting hit by a bus with the Apollo Candy logo on it. The man is played by Zeljko Ivanek. There are also 17 other pictures of the filming here. Also, the picture involving Ethan was mysteriously removed from the site and replaced with the Lost logo, but luckily I managed to find it on another site: here. I know this probably isn't confirmation or anything, but I'd just like to share it all. ShadowUltra 13:42, 25 October 2006 (PDT)

That is just magical, but it isn't ABCmeadianet.--Captain Insano

Yes we know... those are from Ryan Ozawa, and a pulled photo from the Honolulu Star-Bulletin article as well. However we're not in the spoiler business, and Lostpedia's main articles are not for spoiler speculation from unofficial sources. Past spoiler photos from Ozawa have ended up on the editing cutting room floor, such as Jack's save-the-choking child scene in a tale of two cities, and are thus not canon. The episode title also needs to be confirmed by an official source, and even imdb is not considered official. -- ^Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯^Talk15:40, 30 October 2006 (PST)

So can't we just edit the article to contain Zeljko Ivanek's name as guest star? Confirmed through picture, just like William Mapother. Waux Trident

But how do we know that they will be appearing on this episode, much less know that this is the real title? What's the source of that info? I don't even know why this page is here at all, episode pages aren't supposed to be created until a title is confirmed. In the meantime, any rumors can go in Season 3/prespoilers. I'm nominating this page for deletion. --Minderbinder 05:39, 3 November 2006 (PST)

I'm kicking myself for not remembering where I heard this, but I think someone confirmed the title Not in Portland and said that "Portland is pretty significant to Juliet." Trying to find where I heard that now...ShadowUltra 14:35, 4 November 2006 (PST)

Why doesn't this page exist yet?

At least on the {{Season2Nav}} template. Or a stub article here... locked... --Sloths 21:52, 10 November 2006 (PST)

Not in Portland isn't confirmed yet...

I deleted the content from the article because it's not confirmed from ABC.net, and if any of it's true, it's a horrible spoiler. If someone wanted to make a Not In Portland/Prespoilers, it might be more appropriately place there. -BearDog 16:33, 13 November 2006 (PST)

confirmed,,

listen to the latest podcast,, 10:52 (the time where he says it) --mo-- (^Talk | ) 07:44, 7 December 2006 (PST)

Exactly so why is this page still locked now that the episode title has been confirmed? --lewisg 02:54, 8 December 2006 (PST)

The name of the title and the existence of the episode have been confirmed, but nothing else. Feel free to add non-spoiler information to this talk page and if relevant and official it could be added to the article page. Episode pages will generally stay locked until the episode airs in the US. -- Jabberwock talk contribs email - 09:36, 9 December 2006 (PST)

Its just abit silly is all, why are they locked until they aired? If things are prespoilers they can be deleted and/or moved to the prespoiler page.--lewisg 09:43, 9 December 2006 (PST)

That's the way we used to have it, but unfortunately, a lot of people weren't abiding by the rules. The pages would quickly pile up with tons of prespoilers. We're trying to just keep it under control to just relevant, confirmed, nonspoiler info, which as it turns out, just isn't that much. --Pandora X 10:25, 9 December 2006 (PST)

Ooooh ok thanks :) --lewisg 10:27, 9 December 2006 (PST)

As CaptainInsano said, the episode was not confirmed as Episode 7. It was just confirmed as an episode title. -- Plkrtn talk contribs email 11:38, 9 December 2006 (PST)

To someone who can edit this...

I created Not In Portland/prespoilers. If you could put a see also on the main article, that'd be great, thanks.--LOCI!

Apostrophe Catastrophe

"It's existence" is incorrect. It should be "Its existence".—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 1.618033989 (talk • contribs) .

No I believe it should be "It's existence" as the apostrophe signifies possesion. --User:Pshyco Smokey Monster 2/sig

Hay, Guys!

On the official ABC Lost wiki (http://lostwiki.abc.com/page/3.07+%22Not+in+Portland%22) it clearly says that 'Not in Portland' is an episode and it is Juliet-centric. --J a m e s W. 16:07, 23 December 2006 (PST)

It's not an official source. We only use ABC Medianet as a source for episode titles. -- Lost Soul talk contribs 11:27, 23 December 2006 (PST)

Yes, it's an offical sorce. It says on the bottom of the page "This is the official Lost wiki of ABC's Lost TV show". --J a m e s W. 16:07, 23 December 2006 (PST)

And yes once again but its edited by users just like us, and we arent an official source just because we say something. ABC Medianet is the only official source. (Maybe with exceptions if the producers directly say so or something). --lewisg 17:23, 23 December 2006 (PST)

Feb 7 Clip Show

Just a note to say that ABC has scheduled a Clip Show to precede this episode (assuming it is this episode airing on February 7 at 10pm) from 9pm to 10pm. The title of the show not declared yet. See Feb 7 Schedule. --Kivipat
Another bloody clip show?? Geez you Americans must get sick of them! --lewisg 03:01, 11 January 2007 (PST)
For what its worth ABC have now listed the Clip Show's title as Lost Survivor Guide See--Kivipat

"Not in Portland" is now official!

(I wasn't sure where to post that)

ABC released promotional photos of "Not in Portland", with a confirmation to the episode's title. [1] (click on "View Full Caption"). ODK Talk Sandbox 07:02, 12 January 2007 (PST)

In the return episode, "Not in Portland," Jack is in command as the fate of Ben's life literally rests in his hands. Meanwhile, Kate and Sawyer find an ally in one of "The Others," and Juliet makes a shocking decision that could endanger her standing with her people.

Not in Portland has been confirmed for a couple days now...are we waiting for the guest list or something? Anyway, glad that's all been settled about the title! Shadow Ultra 08:45, 14 January 2007 (PST)

The ABC Medianet url now in the article confirmed the date, title, and a brief description (but not flashback), and images. Article has been created with this content, and a spoiler tag added above the description. -- ^Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯^Talk 22:30, 16 January 2007 (PST)

Prespoilers page

The article page should probably have a link to Not in Portland/prespoilers, like the other episodes did before they aired. --Minderbinder 14:11, 16 January 2007 (PST)

OK -- ^Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯^Talk 22:30, 16 January 2007 (PST)
Actually, changed my mind, pending agreement by other sysops. The content topic was redundant with Lost Season 3/prespoilers, which now has sections for each episode. Despite how we evolved a way to deal with prespoilers in the first S3 miniseason, putting it all into "Lost Season 3/prespoilers" was the way we were heading, and so IMHO does not serve as a precedent. (Also when episode titles are in dispute, this central method will help.) This also helps with preventing proliferation of prespoiler pages, which easily becomes out of hand-- this central and simple way is more suited to Lostpedia, since providing spoilers is intrinsically outside our mission.

However note that I just moved the content from this page en masse to the other page without really reading (I'm not interested in spoilers myself), so there may be some repeats on the Lost Season 3/prespoilers page that need to be removed. -- ^Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯^Talk 22:42, 16 January 2007 (PST)

Feb 17th?

Erm, the infobox says the episode will air February 17th, please correct it to 7th. Ta --lewisg 05:21, 17 January 2007 (PST)

Flashback

What is the source that Jack is the flashback? Also, somebody should fix the misspelling of the word "Febuary".--Dagg 08:08, 17 January 2007 (PST)

I think that it should be left as "Unknown" for now. We did that before, with I Do and Every Man for Himself. There is no source, as far as I know. -- Lost Soul talk contribs 08:15, 17 January 2007 (PST)

Seems to look like a Juliet flashback, at least TV guide says so: [2]. --Minderbinder 09:55, 17 January 2007 (PST)

Sorry guys, I had reverted too many of my edits and left some content up that shouldn't have been there (the date was wrong, and it noted a Jack flashback). It should be fixed now. Regarding flashback, we won't post until an official source (abc medianet, or a producer) confirms it one way or another. IMDb, TV-guide, etc. do not qualify as official sources. -- ^Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯^Talk 12:12, 17 January 2007 (PST)
Is Elizabeth Mitchell herself good enough? Shadow Ultra 13:15, 17 January 2007 (PST)

I would think so. While unsourced rumors on fan pages (or IMDB or the TV guide rumor columns) aren't good enough, a direct quote from someone working on the show certainly is, regardless of where they say it. --Minderbinder 14:49, 17 January 2007 (PST)

This topic is being discussed in detail at Lostpedia talk:Spoiler Policy (proposed)#What exactly constitutes an "official source". Any further discussion that happens in this talk page will likely be ignored. Please give your opinions on the other page. --Dagg 15:28, 18 January 2007 (PST)

Nope it isn't good enough.--Captain Insano 14:57, 18 January 2007 (PST)

Why not? I don't see what the issue would be. Do you think that she wouldn't be in a position to know that an episode features a flashback of her character? Or do you think that TV guide is fabricating interview quotes? I completely agree with not using rumor sites as sources, but this seems like being anal for its own sake. --Minderbinder 07:26, 19 January 2007 (PST)

Twelve week hiatus

The article says 13 week hiatus, but it's actually 12 weeks off, look at the dates and check a calendar. Anyone with editing privledges want to fix? --Minderbinder 11:45, 18 January 2007 (PST)

February 7, 2006

It says Not in Portland is airing in 2006. Could someone please change it to 2007? Thankies. Bexbex815 GMT 20:09, 19 January 2007

Good catch!!..Please, can a Sysop change that awkward typo ?-- 16:05, 21 January 2007 (PST)