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RG Collingwood Collingwood held history is "recollection" of the "thinking" of a historical personage. Collingwood considered whether two different people can have the same thought and not just the same content, concluding that "there is no tenable theory of personal identity" preventing such a doctrine.

Elsa's bracelet

4x03 Elsa's bracelet

Elsa's bracelet

Elsa's bracelet is markedly different. I can't see any similarity --Hunter61 21:57, 18 February 2008 (PST)

  • Damon confirmed in an interview that the bracelets are different and have absolutely no connection to each other. [1] --Minderbinder 12:36, 21 February 2008 (PST)
    • Lindelof confirming that there is no direct link between the bracelets is fine and dandy. The real point here that everyone appears to be missing is the basic symbolism of bracelets. More importantly, in the same episode ("The Economist"), Sayid delicately handles the bracelets of these two women who are so similar (and probably worked for the same person) and so dangerous. Not only that, but it seems like every women Sayid meets and has any real connection with ends up murdered through association with him. So, after these two women are dead, he both analytically and wistfully pauses to look at the bracelet before never looking back again.
    • Conclusion: the bracelets are important symbols. They are important and powerful symbols to Sayid and his psyche. Just because the two bracelets are not literally connected is of little value. What is of great value is that they are metaphorically connected. There are many fascinating ways to look at these metaphors. For just one example, the bracelets are circles; circles represent life, the archetype that the circle is the cycle of life, with no ending or beginning. However, both Elsa's and Naomi's bracelet's are bands. They are circles with a sudden, sharp break in them. The break in each bracelet is no coincidence. They are incomplete circles that symbolize lives cut short, lives cut short by being murdered. As a thoughtful man knowing mid-eastern philosophy, Sayid likely notices this cruel irony in life, and even if he does not, we the viewers do.--Japhy Ryder 11:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
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