Talk:Mysterious boy

Rename

There's got to be another name we can agree on, until we get an official name for this character. "Mysterious 'kid'" is about the worst name we could come up with. I propose "Mysterious boy", as "boy" is not nearly so slangy, but I'm sure others could come up with a better term. Michael Lucero * Talk * Contributions

• 'Mysterious Boy' sounds much better.--CooperSimply 16:04, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
• It's titled "Mysterious Kid" because Sawyer and The Man In Black both refer to him as "kid".--Bwipbwoop 16:41, February 17, 2010 (UTC)bwipbwoop
• "Kid" is too slangish.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 16:46, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
• Why keep it vague when we know it's a boy? -- Managerpants  Contribs  Talk  16:48, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
• Rename to Mysterious boy, not kid.--Mistertrouble189 18:37, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
• Rename him to zach, look at the screenshots.Dmar217 09:57, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Are both boys the same

It seems a bit preemptive to assume the first one he saw is the same one that Sawyer also saw. The fact that the others stole Zach and Emma might suggest that children play a very significant role on the island and the two young blond boys are not one in the same. Sawyer could see the second one because it was a real boy.Cooldude 832 18:13, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

It's not preemptive at all. Just look at the screenshots... they're the same boy. -- Managerpants  Contribs  Talk  18:58, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Also listed in the credits as the same actor. It's really not debatable. —   lion of dharma    talk    email   03:26, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

Locke's Catch Phrase

• Did anyone else think that when FLocke said, "Don't tell me what I can't do!", that it was a little piece of (real) Locke sneaking through? It seemed very out of character for MiB, but completely in line with something (the real) John Locke would have said in that situation. Has his spirit/ essence/ soul been carried over to FLocke? Ericshead 14:45, February 17, 2010 (UTC)EricsHead
  • I thought that too. Although it sounded rather different in tone to how Locke alwats said it. --CooperSimply 16:04, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
    • I thought the same thing - I also thought that in his next scene after using old Locke's catch phrase, when Sawyer asked about the kid, he said "what kid?"
      • Agreed. I know people are debating the intention of this comment (in the section below, "Unanswered Question"), and honestly I'd have to watch the scene again to be sure, but my inital reaction was that it was the (real) John Locke who was 'bleeding through' FLocke at this moment; from the time he uttered John's 'catch phrase' until the "what kid?" comment he made. Ericshead 17:00, February 18, 2010 (UTC)EricsHead
        • Yeah and because we completely know Mib, and no other character has ever said don't tell me what I can't do, oh wait... We don't know anything about Mib so him being out of character, for all we know he could be a psycho and Jack, Ben, Claire, Eko and Charlie have all said that before Does Locke live inside them? No. It is just irony and a recurring theme of the series that's it.FLocke 04:36, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Unanswered Question

I really don't think that Why did the man in black act as if he had never seen the boy to Sawyer? is an Unanswered Question. It seems that, especially from Sawyer's reaction, the MiB says this because he knew that Sawyer was lying when he said he was talking to no-one so the MiB wasn't going to tell Sawyer what the boy said because Sawyer wasn't being honest with him.

I agree with whoever posted the above and am going to remove "Why did the man in black act as if he had never seen the boy to Sawyer?" from "unanswered questions." This is only an "unanswered question" to a viewer who didn't understand the MiB's intention when he denied seeing the boy to Sawyer: the MiB denied seeing the boy because Sawyer lied to the MiB about Richard. This was the MiB's way of saying that he knew Sawyer was lying when Sawyer said he wasn't talking to anyone (when he was really talking to Richard).

Why Couldn't Richard See the Boy/Kid?

Is it possible that Richard couldn't see the boy/kid, whoever he is, because Richard is no longer considered "special" by the island, now that Jacob is dead? If this is true, does it further support the idea that Sawyer is now "special" because *MiB* has identified him as a candidate? Had Richard agreed to go with FLocke, just after he'd been released from the trap, would he have seen the boy/kid? Ericshead 16:55, February 18, 2010 (UTC)EricsHead

It's not clear whether he actually could not see the boy, or whether the boy disappeared by the time he bothered to look in that direction. --Jackdavinci 04:30, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe the Kid is a young Jacob?

I was certain that the Kid was a young Jacob, relates to the time traveling that happened before.. Though what he said makes me think that it might not be that.. --Huhuhu1 19:28, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Certainly saying it _is_ Jacob is being a bit hasty. But it's undeniable that the casting call is for a child that would resemble Jacob (although, admittedly, also resembling some other characters). This isn't the theory page, so I'll just leave it at this: the boy may just be someone who resembles Jacob (ie. they're related, family-wise, somehow).MannyF 23:50, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

There should be no discussion, however, that the kid looks exactly like a young Jacob or (as others have suggested) Boone (except that the boy's casting call said 'blond hair'). The casters on LOST have been amazing so far at finding easily recognisable children versions of the already known characters. Considering that, there's no reason to believe that they have failed to depict some other character all of a sudden, making him look like Jacob instead. One could also argue that 1) Introducing for instance Jacob's son would be pretty random story-telling at this point. 2) MIB/Locke sure looks like he has seen a ghost when he spots the boy. Only few things would surprise a character this powerful. Both some sort of reincarnation, time travelling, and the island "showing" things would be plausible explanations for this being a young Jacob. NorthernRealmJackal 19:49, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Here's two theories in one, for discussion. We know MIB believed his mother was crazy. As of s.06ep08 we know his name is being deliberately witheld (implying a big reveal later). MIB stated that Jacob took his body and his humanity. This has me thinking Jacob/MIB are one and the same, a theory that's already put forward. Perhaps, as a boy, Jacob/MIB killed his crazy mother, hence the blood. This initiated some sort of spiritual and physical division where Jacob became separate from MIB. Jacob keeps his "evil" half prisoner, fearing what will happen if it's let loose.--Slumber 17:26, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

The Boy is the figure in Jacob's Cabin

Remember way back in season 3, in The Man Behind the Curtain when Locke and Ben goes to the cabin we see a mysterious figure for a few split second who many had thought to be Jacob at that time. The boy could be a younger version of that figure, and notice that their attire were the same and only a few people could see/hear him.

Casting call trivia

I feel this is kinda spoilery until we find out who he is... Like, reading that sentence makes me think I know who it is. --Sloths 21:55, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

It's pretty obvious who this likely is-like "Ellie is Eloise" obvious-even without the casting call, but it also could be taken as spoilery confirmation. So I could og either way. --Golden Monkey 07:20, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Foot

When FLocke trips and falls while chasing him, and the shot switches to the boy, it begins with a shot of his foot and pans up. Just wondering if anyone has trieed to freezeframe and count his toes.

• it seems like its 5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6BCJkmqfDI - freeze at 0:47

The boy is a young MIB

Long time reader, 1st time contributer and I'm not exactly sure how to do this. I noticed no one had anything about the boy possibly being a manifestation of the MIB when he was younger. I'm speculating that the MIB and Jacob knew each other as boys (possibly related) and that the MIB had attempted to kill Jacob before, hence the bloody arms. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Klombard (talk • contribs) .

• This would be better suited on the theories page, not the talk page. --Gluphokquen Gunih ▲ 13:05, April 14, 2010 (UTC)