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  • I have recently come across an interesting and illuminative talk by J. J. Abrams on TED.com. Watch his statement and you will realise that Abrams has an amazing obsession with boxes and that he sees a close relationship of boxes with magic and mystery. Boxes, I think, are a key to understanding LOST and to me they appear to be more than a stylistic device. I strongly recommend to collect further information on that issue, since I remember that boxes were an ever recurring theme in LOST (From the box-maker Locke to Ben and his indication of a magic box.) I imagine that LOST's big magic box is actually to be taken literally. Who knows, maybe this box has the ground view of a regular octagon. Maybe it bears a question mark on the front. And who knows if this box will ever be opened in LOST? --Boxer 14:05, 11 January 2008 (PST)

Is there any evidence to suggest that the box is a metaphor, or an actual box? Given the mysterious and evasive nature of the Others, it could be a literal box or device, eh? --Frenkmelk 22:45, 21 March 2007 (PDT)

I think that it was sort of a metaphor that it was a box; it's actually that room athat Anthony was tied up in. but that's just me.--Ex-Pope Cardinal Richard Corey 22:50, 21 March 2007 (PDT)
I'm thinking that the whole island is the box, and the things it produces are never exactly what they seem. This would explain lots of other mysteries, from the polar bear (though DHARMA also explains that) and Yemi to the crash itself! --Pedxing 05:45, 22 March 2007 (PDT)

I think it's definitely a metaphor, but anyone else think this should be called the "Lockebox"? ;) --Jmast7 06:25, 22 March 2007 (PDT) Yes, I'm 100% on board with it being a metaphor. Ben was trying to show John that he could get him the one thing that he wanted in the world, which Ben believed was Cooper. Whether Cooper accidentally came to the island while fleeing the FBI or if the Others( i.e. Richard Alpert ) went and picked him up for the manipulation of John is still up in the air. --Samhain99 06:28, 22 March 2007 (PDT)

  • We might think it's a metaphor as opposed to a real box, but we don't know that yet. So the article shouldn't claim that it's a metaphor. --Ghtx 08:29, 22 March 2007 (PDT)
    • The writers/producers have since made it very clear that there is no literal box -- see the main article.
    • Ben made himself pretty clear that he chose the word Box as a slight dig at Locke "You understand boxes, right John?". He wanted to remind Locke of his helpless life before the crash, when he "wasted" a good portion of his life working for a box company in Tustin. There is no literal box.-BearDog 11:34, 22 March 2007 (PDT)
  • Anyway, let's try to enumerate all the wishes that came true. And my bet is that the box isn't really a box or a room but rather just something that grants wishes, and the word "box" is just a name given by Others or Ben that comes from something like "Christmas box", because what it does is actually a kind of a gift. Asgan 11:29, 22 March 2007 (PDT)
  • Whatever the box is, it has to be physical enough that things can be detected as having come out of it. In other words, if the Others found Cooper running around the island, they would not assume that he has come out of the box. I dont think any conclusions about the nature of the box should be made in the article yet. And people should not forget that Locke's claims to being "special" are no better than those of Rose. Dharmatel4 11:59, 22 March 2007 (PDT)

I guess the idea of wish granting resembles one from the book "Roadside Picnic" by Strugatzkys, and also Tarkovsky's "Stalker" and the recent PC game "S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - Shadow of Chernobyl" which were based on the book. Maybe any of these worth being mentioned in the Trivia section or somewhere else in the article? The first paragraph of the movie's WP page mentions the Room that grants wishes to anyone who can reach it through the wilderness full of anomalies. Asgan 13:47, 22 March 2007 (PDT)

If it's not a metaphor, or at least exaggeration, but an actual magic box on the island then it is pretty much the ultimate plot device. Such a thing could explain everything on the island (or anything weird ever really). The rather ridiculously weakening effect this would have on suspension of disbelief makes me think that this is a metaphor, perhaps for whatever it is that keeps causing ships and such to crash on the island. After all, Ben wished for a spinal surgeon and then one appeared. Frieze 13:34, 24 March 2007 (PDT)

  • I think maybe the Magic box is the door station that they think doesn't exist. does anyone have any similar thoughts? Kmanftball
  • The textual evidence in the episode clearly points to this not being a metaphor. It might not be an actual box but it's something real that can manifest things.

Is it not possible that Ben is able to create things "in the box" because of his ability to harness the time travel powers of the island? Perhaps he (I'm assuming it is under his control with the drawer of passports and all) is able to obtain certain people, things, animals, etc. and place them around the island as he sees fit?--Olcat13 21:42, 24 March 2008 (PDT)olcat13

Proposal to Merge

All the theories on the magic box are on the page for the episode . . . why do we need this page? --Joshspazjosh 14:49, 23 March 2007 (PDT)

  • Don't merge, it is to be expected that there will be new information about this box in upcoming episodes. --Hunter61 23:03, 23 March 2007 (PDT)
  • No - this is a significant object and should have it's own article. --Gateboy42 05:54, 24 March 2007 (PDT)
  • No - Don't merge- I believe that "the box" will be an interesting source of theories, and should remain its own separate page.--Madhank 12:03, 24 March 2007 (PDT)
  • Merge - It's been confirmed to be a metaphor, I don't see why we need a full article just for a metaphor.Voodoo 18:43, 4 April 2007 (PDT)
  • No - Don't merge- Even if it's a metaphor, we need some place to discuss what this metaphor is about. It very well could be a physical object. --Xmuskrat 15:14, 25 March 2007 (PDT)

Trek link

I changed the Star trek reference link from IMDB to the Memory Alpha page for that episode. I figure it's better to use a wiki link...--Emissary23 23:09, March 30, 2010 (UTC)