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. It isn't even in the cultural references of the Episode. --LOST-Hunter61 06:50, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
There are no plot similarities. cgmv123TalkContribsE-mail 22:01, December 18, 2009 (UTC)- In the book, didn't people vanish from a plane? It was related to the time of tribulation where God would be calling his people to Heaven. I still don't think that's enough to make it relevant to the show, and the page itself is empty and useless. --DanVader228 23:44, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
- Even if it does have a plane crash in common, I'm sure there are plenty of other pieces of fiction that do too which definitely should not get their own page. --Miles Straume 18:50, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, there wasn't a crash. The plan landed normally, but during the flight many of the passengers "vanished"; very similar to the way Jack, Hugo, Kate, and Sayid vanished from the Ajira 316 flight. I still stand by deletion. I think the reference could be re-posted as episode references rather than on an individual page. Maybe a reference on the "Left Behind" (episode) page for the shared title, and another one on the "316" page for the plot similarity with the vanishing. --DanVader228 00:07, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
- : Keep in mind that Stranger in a Strange Land (book), The Shape of Things to Come (book) and The Little Prince (book) were created off the basis of episode titles. If we are considering this page for deletion, then we should consider those others as well. There are definitely plot and storyline similarities that I will add to this article (similar to the plot similarities listed on the other three book articles that were named after episode titles). -- CTS Talk Contribs 00:32, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
- I restored this page because nobody has offered any counterarguments against my points for keeping the page. If consensus is reached to delete this page, then we also have to look at the other book articles created off episode title basis that I mentioned above (Stranger in a Strange Land (book), The Shape of Things to Come (book) and The Little Prince (book)). -- CTS Talk Contribs 21:58, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
- I have nominated Stranger in a Strange Land (book) for deletion/merging similar to how this page is flagged. The Shape of Things to Come (book) was confirmed in a podcast. The Little Prince (book) was also confirmed in a podcast as well as having more plot similarities (i.e. the shared ship titles). That being said I would like to re with deleting this page. cgmv123TalkContribsE-mail 22:23, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
- - Unless there is a direct connection from the story to this book (either canon or podcast, etc), then I don't see a need for the article. I believe this is a case of apophenia. We could easily draw connections to many other books using the same logic. For example, just because LOST takes place on an island, doesn't mean we need to include an article on "Jurassic Park". It would be more appropriate to list info on the Literary works page, then discuss the worthiness there. Jabberwock talk contribs email - 22:29, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
- I would be fine with merging the info onto literary works as long as this page is deleted. cgmv123TalkContribsE-mail 22:32, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Jabr, I agree with you that apophenia would definitely be the case with a "Jurassic Park" article. The only reason I think that "Left Behind" differs is because it is an actual episode title. The Shape of Things to Come (book) and The Little Prince (book) both have confirmed book title references. Although Left Behind (book) hasn't technically been confirmed, isn't it okay for us to assume that? There are many things in episodes we assume are references without getting technical confirmation (a.k.a. we don't need everything spoon-fed to us by the producers confirmation). We are given several hints from the episode that could definitely be considered plot similarities (i.e. The Others "disappearing" much like people disappearing in Left Behind, Kate selling Bibles which is the basis of the Left Behind books, etc). -- CTS Talk Contribs 23:14, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Merge The point is that there are too few plot similarities. Disappearances don't count because then we'd have to list every episode of every cop drama that has a kidnapping. Selling bibles is too vague, and duh a book called "Left Behind" would have people "left behind." We need to merge this now. cgmv123TalkContribsE-mail 23:37, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
- The Bible is not "too vague." The Left Behind series is based off the writings in the Bible. Also, in the Left Behind series, people DISAPPEAR INTO THIN AIR during the rapture. In the episode Left Behind, Sayid states that "...it's like fifty people disappeared into thin air." That is definitely a correlation and a reference to the "Left Behind" series. -- CTS Talk Contribs 00:09, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
- There is no suggestion in Lost that there is a religious basis for the time shifts.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 00:13, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
- I never said there was. I just noted that Sayid saying "...it's like fifty people disappeared into thin air" is definitely relatable to people 'disppearing out of thin air' in the Left Behind series. -- CTS Talk Contribs 00:15, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
- Merge Then that's one plot similarity if you say so, (I don't think it is, but I'll let it go), that's enough to justify it being on literary works, but not having it's own article. cgmv123TalkContribsE-mail 00:20, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
- General consensus seems to be for merge, most counterpoints have been covered. Have merged with Literary works. --Blueeagleislander 01:48, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
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It's too insignificant to rate its own page.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 22:47, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed!--"What about you?" --Jacobislight42 01:06, January 25, 2010 (UTC)