Talk:Kelvin Inman

Clancy Brown

He's good. Hoping he's one of the others or something else that gives him more time on the show. Love his work. --skks 02:35, 14 March 2006 (PST)

Yup, I like him, though I think Joe Inman is evil. We now know that Kelvin is also played by Clancy Brown. So we will be seeing more, hopefully more of Joe too.

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I changed the picture back to the orginal, it's more effective and looks better than a compilation of Inmans of different eras. If a hazmat/dharma picture is required, it can be added to the article - it doesn't need to be in the infobox. --skks 04:06, 27 May 2006 (PDT)

Anagrams

JOIN NAME --skks 02:59, 14 March 2006 (PST)

Minor Adjustment

Changed "speaks Iraqi" to correct term "Arabic". Seems like a small detail, but an important piece of foundational knowlege.

Alive

Are we sure he's still alive? If' he's also Kelvin, and Kelvin is "dead," should we not at least put his status at unknown? -absalom

He's definatly alive.

Um, no. He's Kelvin, and he's dead.--Piscez 06:49, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

Section Title Change

I split it up to something simlar to "BEFORE THE CRASH" "AFTER CRASH" but changed the wording because clearly he wasn't on the plane and he also may have been on the island some time before the crash

Spoiler Policy?

What is the LP policy about putting stuff up that spoils future airings? I know that in viewer time, Inman and Michael have never interacted, I've never seen that photo, etc. It makes me sad. Absalom 08:58, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

I'm posted it because I saw it on TV so I know everyone else watching Lost last night was also exposed. My posts are also based on the infomation gather from the trailer from Three Minutes' trailer. I don't think its a real spoiler and once again its based on images and dialouge aired on ABC last night Mmoose 10:15, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Ah, cool! I didn't mean for it to sound like a call-out. My TiVo always cuts off the "next week on Lost," so I totally missed it. Guess I'll go download the trailer. Thanks! Absalom 10:36, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

God speed! Be sure to take precautions aganist soiling yourself. Mmoose 11:48, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Removed Island section

Sorry kids... injector man isn't Joe Inman (Clancy Brown)... it's Pickett as played by Michael Bowen [1].

Who the hell is injector man -- Bramme 06:51, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

I think he's the one who injects Claire. I thought it was Ethan Rom, though, not Pickett. --Chesteadman 11:11, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

a few eps back somone posted a picture of Pickett taking Michael's blood and claimed it was Joe Inman and the picture proved he was an other. I removed that from the article because the guy in the posted picture was Pickett... that's what I was referring to.--Isotope23 12:44, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

DIA

Inman works for DIA (Defence Intelligence Agency, US military intelligence), not CIA. Look at the screen behind him in his first flashback appearance. Ausir 14:18, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

Are we sure...

that the name is "Kelvin" and not "Calvin"? If it were Calvin, it would support the "philosophy" theme by referring to John Calvin -- the Swiss leader of the Reformation who believed in "predestination". More complete description here. --BrianSTL 14:38, 29 November 2005 (PST)

It would also support placing significance to the name Marvin Candle if his name is actually "Calvin."

Anyone noticed that the Pilot of the Oceanic 815 Flight is also named Kelvin?

Just an update on this one: as some of you know, the list of guest characters released in a press release for the season two finale confirms that it is _K_elvin --Jambalaya 09:46, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

The name of the pilot?

Do we know the pilot's name? --Jambalaya 14:45, 9 March 2006 (PST)

I'd like to see a source for naming The Pilot "Kelvin". ABC Press Releases and IMDB all have the character named as only "pilot", played by Greg Grunberg.
   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 14:55, 9 March 2006 (PST)

The pilot's name wasn't mentioned in the pilot. Pun intended. --skks 15:26, 14 March 2006 (PST)

I'm pretty sure the name is Kelvin. I had two friends with the names Kelvin and Calvin and there is quite a difference in the pronounciation. --Plkrtn 08:38, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

• Huh, seems to me there's just one vowel sound different. Given Desmond's accent, Calvin was possible. Moot point now though. --Piscez 06:52, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

Kelvin was not the pilot of Flight 815. Different actors. See Claire's flashback in disc 7 of the Season 1 DVD set. --Amberjet11 12:58, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

joe = kelvin?

Is it not fact now that joe and kelvin inman are the same, since they're both played by Clancy Brown? - Ernest 07:14, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

• Not necesarily... they could be twins. There were twins on the boat with Zeke at the end of season link title1. Factor in Marvin Candle/Mark Wickman and the recently released "Bad Twin" novel... it's at least possible that "twins" could be a plot point. Maybe Damon/Carlton watched too much Twin Peaks back in the day.--Isotope23 07:35, 12 May 2006 (PDT)
  • word. -Ernest 07:50, 12 May 2006 (PDT)
• i had a feeling i will see that face again...but as U guys say kelvin could be joes twin too...and if thats the case i wonder who was the bad twin :) and even if kelvin is dead, maybe joe isn't and is on the island--Skyshadow 09:25, 12 May 2006 (PDT)
• Also, call me stupid, but where was it confirmed that Kelvin's gonna be played by Clancy Brown and that he is an Inman!?
  • The studios releases a blurb about each episode along with a guest star list to TV Guide, Cable/Dish Companies etc a few weeks before the episode airs. Clancy Brown was listed as playing "Kelvin Inman" on this press release. It might have leaked even before that, but I first read it maybe a week or 2 ago on Spoilerfix and I think the official ABC release was their source.--Isotope23 05:40, 16 May 2006 (PDT)
• He says to Desmond he was a spy so he can tell he is being followed.. That makes me think they are the same guy.. It is possible 'Joe' is a nickname, a second name, even a code name hiding his actual identity.. Hudd ^talk_contrib 21:27, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
• I say they're defiently one in the same and these should be merged. 1. Same actor 2. Same last name 3. References to his past in 2x23 make it pretty clear.

I agree with this. I think it's pretty clear they are intended to be the same person, especially considering the frequent cases of overlap between Flashbacks and Island Time. Absalom 05:50, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

A military family where all sons go through military service is not all that uncommon. I don't think that similar careers prove that they aren't twins or clones. EmperorMing 07:10, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

--Dow lord 07:35, 25 May 2006 (PDT) Maybe Kelvin and Joe are references to Bad Twin?

I vote merge. On this one, I think they are one in the same. Kelvin makes reference to giving orders in the military and he's distraught that his soldiers listened to him. Joe gave the orders in Iraq and ordered people to torture prisoners. I fully believe that conversation was meant to allow the viewer to connect the two as one character. The fact that they are played by the same actor is also a strong indicator. In a show like this where the producers know the fans are going to scrutinize every minor detail, they wouldn't have the same actor play two different supporting characters (at least not without explanation). Furthermore we've seen the same character take on multiple names on the show before (Marvin Candle/Mark Wickman). Either Joe or Kelvin could be a nickname? Maybe Joe took on the name of Kelvin (someone he tortured?) the same way James Ford took on the name Sawyer? --Elvis 09:30, 25 May 2006 (PDT) I withdraw my previous comment. After thinking it over, I'm convinced that Joe and Kelvin are the same person, but I think they articles should remain separate until it's confirmed on the show or by the producers. Leave it as a theory until confirmed. --Elvis 09:53, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

I concure, merge. --Meterman 09:52, May 25 2006 {PST}

They should definitely be merged. The whole "twin" theory has never been convincing to me and I don't think it'll hold up in the long run. -- kcnovA23 13:55, 25 May 2006 (EDT)

I think it is pretty likely "Kelvin" Inman is really Joe Inman. That said, as Elvis indicated above it would be better to leave these as separate articles until it is actually proven in the show (or stated by producers in podcast, etc) that they are the same person. Twins isn't likely, but saying the are conclusively the same character is not supported by anything but circumstantial evidence. I imagine at some point it will be explained why Joe felt the need to adopt the "Kelvin" identity.--Isotope23 12:48, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

He said he was a 'spook', which is a euphemism for a CIA agent. What's with these far-fetched theories that Kelvin and Joe are twin brothers, and that they both worked for the CIA? Joffeloff 13:49, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

I think we should leave them seperate until they're confirmed to be the same person, although it's highly likely they are one and the same. -- Ramirez Selvarn 13:52, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

Merge, maybe. Joe is a term used from WWII to describe Male soldiers, as Jane was for female. hence: G.I. Joe. He could have used "Joe" in that regard. However, this article on Kelvin[2] is interesting. --LuminousSpecter 15:28, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

All the evidence supporting that they are one and the same is speculative. My guess is that this will be made clear at some point in the future, but the two pages should be kept separate for now.--Bernini 15:51, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

I think it's highly speculative to assume that they're clones or twins who both worked for the CIA. If anything, they should be merged and then you can dispute it. Joffeloff 15:58, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

I think that they probably are the same person, but I would like to hear it on the show. The Marvin Candle and Mark Wickman page sets a precedent though, so even though I'd normally not support a merge, I think we should follow that precedent with the Inmans.--Mescad 19:32, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

Keep the pages separate, and the theory that they are the same intact, until confirmed by the show. Right now, it's merely speculation that they are more than two characters played by the same person (likely the same person, but not set in stone). LOSTonthisdarnisland 19:37, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

I vote merge - why do we expect the show to further confirm that they are the same person? It is doubtful we'll see more of "Joe" in flashbacks (Sayid's contact was limited we assume). Do we except to see another flashback where Kelvin says, "I used to be called Joe"? I think we should assume that the same last names, military backgrounds, and logic of crossing webs of people's backstories defaults to the same person, not twins - until proven otherwise. --Jajasoon 03:57, 26 May 2006 (PDT)

The majority wanted the articles kept separate, but someone merged them anyway. I've put them back as they were. LOSTonthisdarnisland 03:23, 26 May 2006 (PDT)

It was confirmed in a podcast that they're the same person. Merged again. Ausir 01:03, 27 May 2006 (PDT)

Partner

Did anyone catch the name of his partner in the hatch? I feel stupid for not remembering it.--Kericanfly 20:34, 24 May 2006 (PDT)

It was a Slavic name that started with an "R" (Rovinski? Need to watch this episode again; Kelvin mentions the man's name twice: once when he says R. removed a number of sections from the film, & a second time when he explains how R. blew his brains out with a shotgun in the Swan Complex.) -- Llywrch 21:22, 24 May 2006 (PDT)

I heard (and I watch with captioning on so also saw) Radzinsky.. but my memory is incredibly terrible so that might be wrong. --Offput

In Polish, it would be Radzynski, but he could also be Russian and have his name spelt differently. Ausir 04:37, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

It was Radvinsky. -- Ramirez Selvarn 13:51, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

Just Another Victim?

Did Kelvin get careless with the suit by tearing it and letting Desmond see or was it on purpose? Much longer and he would have taken off without Desmond and gotten away with it.

Since the boat was a wreck and it took 2 years to repair.. he certainly did a good job with whatever he had available.

It doesn't make sense to me that he would screw Desmond around for 2 years if he was working for 'the others' who could have repaired the boat long ago.. and he just lead Desmond there. Its possible he was leading Desmond and pretending he'd been fixing the boat as a way to explain what had been going on for 2 years.. and to possibly talk Desmond round.

Its hard to say if Kelvin was on the level or not.. he could have been innocent (of the others). Personally i like to think of him as the first Desmond.. its jsut hte boat repair story that doesn't sit well with me.

--MRNasher

I think it would have to be an accident, probably from working in it for over two years. Far more worrying is how Desmond finished the boat that still had weeks of repair left if he didn't leave the hatch for the next year. LOSTonthisdarnisland 03:19, 26 May 2006 (PDT)

Kelvin Joe Inman

This is no theory (provided the official Lost podcast is considered canon) as Carlton Cuse said his name is Kelvin Joe Inman. --Offput 23:25, 26 May 2006 (PDT)

DIA, not CIA

When he shows the tape to Sayid, it says "property of the DIA". So, he probably was from DIA (military intelligence), not CIA. Unlike DIA, CIA is a civillian intelligence agency. Ausir 01:02, 27 May 2006 (PDT)