The article says that the link between "DeGroot" and the philosopher Hugo Grotius is obscure and unlikely to be known to the show's writers. Isn't this speculation? I don't think it's obscure at all. Anyone who has studied political or legal philosophy, or similar subjects, is likely to have come across Grotius, and the use of names like Locke, Hume, Rosseau, Carlyle, and possible allusions to Bacon, Descartes and Montaigne(?) in the show seem to demonstrate that the writers are indeed incorporating philosophy references. See the discussion in the philosophy:talk section. I think the qualification of the comment on Grotius is out of place in a Wiki article anyway, either it should stay as fact or be pulled altogether from the text. --HypnoSynthesis 01:57, 17 January 2007 (PST)

  • Agreed. I have moved it to the theories section. If you see other controversial or unlikely references that are more speculation than fact, feel free to move it to the theory tab article also. --PandoraX 02:21, 17 January 2007 (PST)

De Groot, De Groote, DeGroot, DeGroote ?? --Jambalaya 13:32, 20 March 2006 (PST)

Sounds dutch, I'd say DeGroot or DeGroote. --skks 01:59, 21 March 2006 (PST)

I'm dutch and 'De Groot' is a dutch surname, litteraly translated it means: 'The Big' --TuX 11:24, 28 March 2006 (CEST)

Alexander DeLarge springs to mind --skks 12:34, 11 April 2006 (PDT)

Regarding the Web site, I've done a quick check of the Australian White Pages phone book [1] and the Australian Business Register [2] and it appears to be a completely legitimate company (it has been registered since 2002). I don't think it's associated with the show so I've removed the section of text theorizing about it. --MaliciousGod 15:44, 14 April 2006 (PDT)

Look at the picture of Gerald DeGroot teaching, is it just me or is the student to the left of him staring right at the camera. If he is he the only one to do so in all of the pictures --Captain Insano

Has it been established that the DeGroots are married to one another? I was going to add a comment stating that their famial relation to one another, if any, was undefined. However, on the Karen DeGroot and Gerald DeGroot pages it states that they are married to one another. Has this been established? Can anyone cite dialog? --MikeF74 09:14, 26 May 2006 (PDT)

There's a GERARD DeGroot who has a book on the atomic bomb out from Harvard University Press...the name definitely caught my eye for a second when I saw it at the bookstore today... Elakazal 00:45, 30 May 2006 (PDT)

Does anyone else think that the guy behind DeGroot on the middle picture, the guy who is staring right at the camera, is Thomas Mittlewerk? --Phoenix Frou

  • This seems a bit of a weird coincidence. A psychologist called Adrian de Groot wrote about the psychology of chess, including a book entitled "Perception and memory in chess: Heuristics of the professional eye" (1996; with Fernand Gobet and Riekent Jongman). We now know that the DeGroots in Lost were members of the Department for Heuristics, etc., (DHARMA) and the DHARMA computer in the Flame runs a chess game. De Groot, chess, and heuristics? Worth noting just in case any further connections to this psychologist come to light. --HypnoSynthesis 07:06, 8 May 2007 (PDT)


I think this article should be deleted because we have seperate articles for Gerald DeGroot and Karen DeGroot. This is unneeded, we don't have articles like: the Nadlers (Rose and Bernard), the Kwons (Sun and Jin), or the Picketts (Danny and Colleen). This article appears to be more about there last name, something that can easily be added into trivia sections for the specific person article. --Mr. Crabby (Talk) 16:41, 23 May 2007 (PDT)

Delete --Nickb123 (Talk) 15:28, 24 May 2007 (PDT)

Delete--Kajillion 23:04, 29 May 2007 (PDT)

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