If he truly is a "mental case", could he be associated with the Santa Rosa Mental Institute, and does he know Hurley?
I think any mentions of the woman in his home being his wife/GF should be removed. Kajillion 00:38, 15 February 2008 (PST)
Changing Time[]
Someone mentioned that the producers said you cannot go to the past and change the future, but what about going to the future to change the past/present (depending on how you look at it)? Desmond, when he became lost in time, was coming from the past to the future. He did not know anyone there, and thought the year was 1996. So, it is possible he did change the past by visiting the future.Stetsonblade 12:25, 6 June 2008 (PDT)
- I think this is where the concept of course-correction comes into play. Desmond might have changed things, but the universe would correct it. Crash815 23:15, 5 December 2008 (PST)
BUT WAIT in "the variable" Daniel says that if he could negate the electromagnetic energy under the yet to be created swan this would cause oceanic flight 815 to never crash on the island wich contradicts his previous statements as to where what ever happened, happened. stating wich that time cannot be changed that everything that was going to happen could not be stopped no matter what. so how does he come up with the conclusion that in 1977 the "jughead" would stop the electromagnetic energy from being released under the swan and stop the crash from ever happening? although when we see the plane landing in LAX we think it worked this is not true the plane landing and everything happening in the flash sideways is just their afterlife so when exactly did everyone die? --Tk da fox 01:21, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
- Daniel explains his eureka moment in the episode. He was so obsessed with the constants, he forgot to even think about any of the variables. He somehow came to think that the people were the variables and were able to change events in the past, shattering his original theory on time travel. Some might say it's still open for debate, but if you ask me it was proven that whatever happened, happened was correct and they couldn't change the past. Daniel's influence, his plan to change the past, merely served to create the future he was trying to prevent. I believe that Daniel always did and always will try to change the past. As for how everyone died and ended up in the flash sideways, well they all died in their own time, naturally or prematurely. For all we know Kate was hit by a bus!--Baker1000 19:56, July 10, 2012 (UTC)
Coffin/NYC Theory[]
Could the author rewrite/rethink the Coffin/NYC theory? It's not clear what the Empire State Building has to do with it, and why suicide by hanging is indicated, and it would also help to clarify that you mean the coffin in the funeral parlor visited by Jack in the flashforward, as I immediately thought of the coffin on the Island, which was confusing.
Shapeshifter??[]
"# Daniel and Vincent are the same entity, a shapeshifter of some sort. Possibly the same shapeshifter that is Matthew Abbadon" Ahh.. right. Aren't the theories on this page supposed to be even slightly realistic? Even within the Lost universe this is ... completely random. -- Chuq 03:58, 22 February 2008 (PST)
Daniel couldn't be Vincent (Duh!). They were in a scene together in 4x02. There. It's disproved. Crash815 23:14, 5 December 2008 (PST)
Memory, Time, and Asperger's[]
On the theory page, there's an active argument over whether or not Daniel has Asperger's syndrome. Asperger's is a condition that's become sort of trendy of late, and if somebody has cognitive problems (memory loss, inability to focus), somebody's sure to label them as having it. These are indeed symptoms of Asperger's, but they're also symptoms of a lot of other conditions. It's impossible to say from the evidence which of these Daniel suffers from.
What is clear is that Daniel has some really severe memory loss. This also explains some of his erratic behavior. (I speak from personal experience, having some neurological issues of my own.) Somebody (not me) inserted a really insightful list into the main article, giving the many examples of this problem exhibited by Daniel. Some of these are really subtle, like "word searching". This leads me to believe that Jeremy Davies spent some time studying the behavior of people with memory loss. That, in turn, suggests that the producers told him this was an important aspect of his character.
This is a necessary plot device. Daniel has met at least one of the castaways before, and is involved in experiments with time travel. Without his memory loss, it would be very difficult to write scripts involving him without inconsistencies creeping in.
The producers are playing similar games with Desmond, who seems to have become a kind of involuntary time traveler. One way they've avoided problems is by giving Desmond's multiple journeys though his time loops a sort of dreamlike quality, so that he often gets important details wrong. --Zicsoft 10:00, 2 April 2008 (PDT)
- Because I have Asperger's Syndrome, I would probably just out of my seat if they ended up saying that Faraday has it, just because it helps me relate more. This isnt much of a theory, but more of a hope. Crash815 23:13, 5 December 2008 (PST)
Relationships[]
Main theory page suggests Faraday is Charlotte's father from a relationship he had with Ellie (Mrs. Hawking) in 1970s island time. I, too, think Faraday is Charlotte's father but I think Theresa Spencer is her mother. The reason Charlotte is sick is because Theresa has time sickness and if Faraday doesn't fix Theresa then Charlotte won't exist.--Briggsy4 05:03, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- I feel "romantic feelings" should be removed from the main page as Charlotte and Daniel's connection. Kinship is far more likely, and romantic is not confirmed, and is too theory-ish right now.123go 06:22, 29 January 2009
- In "Jughead", Daniel declares his love for Charlotte. It could be fraternal love, but the situation is presented as a declaration of romantic love.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 14:51, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- It's definitely romantic love - he says he's "in love" with Charlotte - that always means romance.--NotAnOther 06:42, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- Is there a relationship between Daniel's Theresa and Boone's Theresa? (J11)
Daniel and his Time Machine[]
I wanted to post this theory in the theory discussion before putting it on the theory page since I haven't completely thought out its ramifications and i wanted some input on it.
- What if, after being visited by Desmond and performing experiments on Eloise and then Theresa Spencer, Faraday then decided to experiment on HIMSELF, sending his own consciousness time-traveling. Since having been visited by desmond from the future, he KNEW that des would be there in his own future and thus knew that he would have a constant then.(why he wrote the constant business in his notebook?) If he eventually returned to his 'present' after this conscious trip, it would explain how he has a lot of the things in his notebook.
I'm trying to work out the kinks in this theory and rationalize it all the way through but if this turns out true would be pretty amazing, eh? Flashesb4ur8s 20:23, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- A potentially interesting twist might be the statement that he went "running off to the States," leaving Theresa behind. Are they sure?--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 21:26, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Dead?[]
Can we really be sure that he is dead a this point? Look at the young Ben situation.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bartmcqueary (talk • contribs) .
- The Island heals who it will.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 02:55, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
- There's still the video of Chang and - who almost everyone believes to be - Faraday behind the camera. When would this have taken place assuming it's daniel and assuming he just died? He did try to tell Chang the truth, but was cut off and told to stay away, he then went from point a (sawyer's) to point b (hostiles) with seemingly no pause and was shot.
Daniel isn't Charles and Ellie's biological son[]
Putting together a few theories- If Daniel was born around 1968, and the order of nosebleeds indicate that he was on the island less time than the oceanic survivors, that would mean his early childhood was spent off the island. Given that Eloise and Charles were both on the island during that time, someone else must've been raising him. Combine that with the disparity between all three of their last names, Charles and Ellie's British accents and blue eyes, and Faraday's American accent and brown eyes, it's possible that Eloise and Charles aren't really his parents. There's a repeating theme on the show of children being separated from one or both of their parents and "raised by another". It also wouldn't be the first time the Others took a special child to raise as their own. Amyshmamy 08:19, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I agree that Widmore is not Daniel's father. I believe it be Richard. There is a suggestion of Richard and Ellie's relationship, by his actions, during the time that Jack, Sayid, Richard and Ellie were off to recover Jughead. Richard did not seem to act as if he was trying to protect his leader, but rather his lover and his unborn child. As well, Daniel does look more like Richard than Charles. And if we're making an issue of the "American accent", that would match with Richard (as if an accent is a genetic trait). Considering how strained Charles and Ellie's relationship seemed during the incident when Daniel was killed, it seems possible that although they had had a relationship, they were not as close as we would assume. --Mh787878 12:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Not trying to simply be argumentative, but do you really think that on a TV show (not real life), Widmore and Faraday not looking alike is enough evidence to say that they aren't related? Come on! They are only going to look alike if they are really related in real life. Also, if Widmore didn't father Daniel or raise him, why would he claim to be his father at all? Because he only thinks he's the father, but Richard is really the father? I don't think so, Eloise no longer has a relationship with Widmore, in "The Variable", so she could have easily told him outside the hospital that he was not Daniel's real father if it were true. Instead she slaps him (in my opinion saying, you may be his biological father but you were never there for him as a father should be). All evidence points to Widmore being Daniel's biological father, including the fact that he says he is the father and Eloise doesn't correct him. Answering the above question about the nosebleeds, it is entirely possible and likely probable that Eloise is pregnant with Daniel when we see her in the last couple episodes of Season 5. She then either leaves the island shortly after The Incident, or gives birth to him and then immediately leaves the island. This would still mean that he was on the island less time then all those with nosebleeds. Oh, and we do not know that Eloise was on the island during his early childhood. We haven't seen anything to tell us that. NEVERGIVEUP Contribs Talk 12:59, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- The issue of resemblance is a lesser matter. I do think the writer's are careful to consider such matters, but I don't really think that's the most important part in my "theory". The bigger issue is how Richard acts during the only scene we've seen with he and Eloise closely connected. I think his actions are another of the deliberate details the writer's include in the story. But, that combined with the physical traits is what leads me to this idea. As well, we have seen in the story other incidents of connections to characters that previously were not known. There could be a great reason why Richard is not known to be the father and Eloise keeps up the charade of Widmore being the father. Perhaps it's something real, or perhaps its a writing tool (like all the instances where characters didn't share some fact, that anyone in normal life would have shared. Either we just didn't see it on screen, or it didn't happen.....). --Mh787878 13:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- So your theory is that Widmore thinks he's Daniel's father, but he really isn't because Eloise cheated on him with Richard, but never told him this? If that's what you are saying, then I guess it's possible. Personally, I don't agree but that doesn't mean it's not true. That would be the only plausible explaination, considering Eloise's conversation with Widmore outside of the hospital. If they both knew that Richard was Daniel's father, then there was no reason for Widmore to say that he was Daniel's father, as they were the only 2 people there. If they both know the truth, then there is no logical reason to say what he said. As far as Richard's actions in the tunnels. My perception was that is was just as Richard said, and he was protecting their leader. - NEVERGIVEUP Contribs Talk 14:29, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- The issue of resemblance is a lesser matter. I do think the writer's are careful to consider such matters, but I don't really think that's the most important part in my "theory". The bigger issue is how Richard acts during the only scene we've seen with he and Eloise closely connected. I think his actions are another of the deliberate details the writer's include in the story. But, that combined with the physical traits is what leads me to this idea. As well, we have seen in the story other incidents of connections to characters that previously were not known. There could be a great reason why Richard is not known to be the father and Eloise keeps up the charade of Widmore being the father. Perhaps it's something real, or perhaps its a writing tool (like all the instances where characters didn't share some fact, that anyone in normal life would have shared. Either we just didn't see it on screen, or it didn't happen.....). --Mh787878 13:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
--this whole theory is tied to the idea that Daniel is not the child Eloise is pregnant with in 1977, as discussed on the theory page. if he was already born when we see Ellie and Charles on the island in 1977, then he must've been growing up off island with someone else. While it is a leap to assume who either of his biological parents really are based on the looks of actors, i do think the writers of the show are aware that it normally takes at least one brown eyed gene to make a brown eyed baby, and we're meant to notice it, as well as the last name and the accent. Charles' statement of paternity, as well as Daniel viewing Ellie as his mother, may only mean that there was an established familial relationship between the three at some point in his life before Daniel would be able to remember (much the way Jack and Kate were parents to Aaron off island). Either Daniel was very briefly on island with them as an infant, and was sent away, or Ellie and Charles were off island with him prior to 1977, and had to leave him behind when they returned. While it may be true that Charles and Ellie were able to come and go from the island before the Others had access to the dharma sub, both were in leadership positions in 1977, so it doesn't seem too far fetched to think they were both primarily on island for some significant time up to that point, and Daniel couldn't have been with them. Amyshmamy 02:56, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
---I've changed my mind about this. if Ellie shifts back in time when she leaves the island, then the age issues are all resolved. the brown eyes aren't as big a deal when they're isolated from the timeline issues. Charles tells Daniel they've never met when he visits him, so the idea that he was a jack-style adoptive father goes out the window too. thanks for talking through it with me, everyone!Amyshmamy 20:22, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
Moved from Theory page[]
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Faraday's Timeline[]
- The writers made a really big deal in "The Variable" of Faraday being grazed along the neck with the bullet. This is because this version of Faraday is actually YOUNGER than the one that arrived at the island with the rest of the freighter folk. To avoid any possible suspicion, he continued to wear his tie for the duration of his time on the island to hide the scar.-—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Csuderman (talk • contribs) . (Please add evidence to support this theory. Please explain with evidence from the show why the Daniel from "The Variable", is a different (younger) Daniel than the one who arrived on the Kahana. Just saying so doesn't make it a theory. - NEVERGIVEUP Contribs Talk 17:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC))