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I think this article should be merged with Payload and then renamed to Daniel's Experiment. --     Nusentinsaino     talk    contribs    email   09:37, 20 February 2008 (PST)

  • Agree --Mapleleaf50 12:34, 20 February 2008 (PST)
  • Agree --erikire 17:57, 20 February 2008 (PST)
  • What would the category for "Daniel's experiment" be? Robert K S 20:33, 20 February 2008 (PST)
  • Disagree I would vote to keep Daniel's beacon as an item (if necessary renamed in Daniel's equipment and with a simplified text) because it's reusable. That isn't the case with the payload which is a one shot that could be reworked into Daniel's experiment. --Hunter61 21:09, 20 February 2008 (PST)
  • Agree - I think it's much more helpful to have everything relevant to the experiment located in the same article. If the beacon gets reused, then maybe there would be more use for this article at that point. -- Graft   talk   contributions  21:31, 20 February 2008 (PST)
  • Somewhat Agree - I think we should replace this article and payload with Daniel's equipment. And at the same time either create "science experiments" or "Daniel's experiments". One article would describe equipment and the other would describe what Daniel did with the equipment. Dharmatel4 21:51, 20 February 2008 (PST)
  • Agree - all content from this article and payload should be in a single article, as it is all redundant with each other, and neither article really contributes anything significant on its own above the other. The word "Beacon" is never used in the transcript right? On the other hand, the use of the word "rocket" or "payload" in the transcript does not seem to be justification enough to keep those words as the name of the merged article, since the merged article really describes his whole experimental process. I'm fine with the proposed names above; or if there is a strong objection to removing "payload", we could compromise with [[Payload experiment]]. BTW I'll add a merge tag to "Payload" to note that discussion is ongoing here. - Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  13:08, 25 February 2008 (PST)
    • From the transcript: REGINA: Forty kilometers to beacon. Thirty-five kilometers to beacon. Thirty kilometers to beacon. Twenty-five kilometers to beacon. Twenty kilometers to beacon. Fifteen kilometers to beacon. Ten kilometers to beacon. Five kilometers to beacon.... --Hunter61 12:53, 26 February 2008 (PST)
    • I think [[Payload experiment]] would be good. --Mapleleaf50 12:09, 26 February 2008 (PST)
      • Unless a boat called Payload and the Payload Dharma station are revealed, there is no reason to be specific with the "experiment" suffix.--Sloths 22:13, 14 March 2008 (PDT)
  • We can now enter Daniel's machine into the mix. I now definitely think we should combine the four articles under the header of Daniel's experiments --Hunter61 03:46, 8 March 2008 (PST)
    • Daniel's machine is really unrelated to the Island payload experiment. We can afford to have different articles for different aspects of Daniel's research. And since the machine was featured in a recent video podcast, there's plenty more fodder for article material. Robert K S (talk) 05:20, 8 March 2008 (PST)
Merge paylod and beacon article, but not Daniel's machine Daniel's machine is unrelated to the island, and is a completely different experiment on its own. It'd be like merging Sayid's photo and Desmond's photo simply because they are both photographs. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  12:07, 10 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Merge payload and beacon, keep machine seperate As per reasons above. The machine is not only unrelated to the payload/beacon experiment, but also an aspect of Daniel's work from 6 years prior. The machine is completely unrelated to the other exps. --Gluphokquen Gunih ▲ 18:56, 15 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Merge with payload, keep machine and experiment seperate. It's worthy to keep this article as an item; this item had a very important role, much more so than the masks, in my humble opinion. --     c      blacxthornE      t     11:27, 20 March 2008 (PDT)

-*Merge completely for full "picture" of the experiment. Other names related can be redirects. -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 21:41, 21 March 2008 (PDT)

  • Agree But Payload and Beacon should be retained and merged somewhat, i also agree that machine be kept seperate--Nzoomed 17:21, 30 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Agree: Much more concise to have them under an umbrella article. Though obviously Payload and Beacon should be redirects. --Nickb123 (Talk) 06:10, 19 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Agree To avoid any possible confusion it would be best to keep everything under the same article. It would be much easier for all users if they could just look at one article and not 2 to find the information they need. --((User: Jinx))21:38 PST 29 May 2008
  • Merge it but keep the machine seperate Its a totally different experiment, although Payload and Beacon are part of the same thing. --Blueeagleislander 17:59, 7 June 2008 (PDT)


Seeking clarification on rename/merge[]

Right now I see this as a merge into Daniel's experiments, along with payload and machine articles. Is this a satisfactory decision with peeps? --Nickb123 (Talk) 17:14, 19 June 2008 (PDT)

It is with me. It's as clear a consensus as you're going to get, probably. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  16:05, 1 July 2008 (PDT)
Just clarifying so we're all on the same page. I'll do this one tomorrow, as its quite a big job merging three in one. --Nickb123 (Talk) 16:33, 1 July 2008 (PDT)
Three? Which three? -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  16:37, 1 July 2008 (PDT)
Payload, Daniel's beacon, Daniel's machine. All going under the umbrella article "Daniel's experiments". --Nickb123 (Talk) 16:39, 1 July 2008 (PDT)
Unless we put the machine one as a "see main article...", as its pretty hefty. --Nickb123 (Talk) 16:39, 1 July 2008 (PDT)
As stated by Robert K S above, the machine is entirely separate to the other two articles, and should not be merged into the other two. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  16:45, 1 July 2008 (PDT)
Hence the clarification. That's cool, though I think I'll still briefly mention it in a Daniel's experiment article after the other stuff as its relevant to the title strictly, but link to the page for further info. --Nickb123 (Talk) 16:48, 1 July 2008 (PDT)
Sounds good. If you need help with the merging, let me know. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  16:50, 1 July 2008 (PDT)

Common Resource for Time Distortion when moving to/from island[]

Would it be useful to bundle Daniel's payload experiment with other phenomena exhibiting a time difference between the island and the outside world - eg, Sayid and Desmond's helicopter flight, Ray's body etc.

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