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The dharmas

Is the new Dharma a continuation of the old DHARMA or is it a new organization?

  • If it's new, it needs it own page
  • If it's a continuation, we need to go through a discussion on renaming.

--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 10:01, 17 November 2008 (PST)

Should we post the New Dharma logo that appeared at the end of the Damon and Carlton Dharma Initiative Lost video(Announcement 3) from under "Other stations"? As the Dharma email from Damon and Carlton states "Why, it looks like a first-look at an as-yet-unseen Dharma station logo".

[IMG][/IMG] --Sydtrolls 11:44, 9 December 2008 (PST)Sydtrolls--Sydtrolls 11:44, 9 December 2008 (PST)

I don't think we should. It is a spoiler to those that don't want to know yet. Although that's just my opinion.--Baker1000 13:07, 9 December 2008 (PST)
It's a spoiler, and should not be posted. --Blueeagleislander 19:28, 9 December 2008 (PST)

Dudes, it's a logo not a plot point or cast list. it could be a farce for all we know. So big deal put it on there. --The Cartographer 22:26, 9 December 2008 (PST)

No matter how minor the spoiler we don't put it up. And if it is a farce, even more reason not to put it on. --Blueeagleislander 03:36, 10 December 2008 (PST)

It's no longer a spoiler, it appeared in "the Lie" so it should be added--Rod 02:50, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

The radio tower

Shouldn't the radio tower be mentioned on this page? --   Calick    talk    contributions    email   15:58, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


Note that some of the stations have names related in some way to the stories of Apollo in Greek Mythology. Apollo was born on the island of Delos which at the time floated freely in the ocean and was difficult to reach because of swirling tides surrounding it.

shouldn't this be deleted as it's a theory? TPTB have never said anything to point to a theme in the DHARMA station names. even if there was a theme, wouldn't the writers have used it exclusively. The Looking Glass is definitely not an Apollo reference. --Gluphokquen Gunih 16:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Agreed. The Apollo references seem to be entirely based on theory. It's a good theory, so let's move it there.

Dharma and Greg?

Why is this on the page? Obviously nothing to do with anything, other than the word "Dharma" --Crazy Bearded Jack 18:17, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


  • Has anyone wondered how and when the DI employees get paid (including the losties). What is the pay scale.Eyeinthesky 23:40, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

--probably like oil rig workers -- funny money for local expenses and a big check (supposedly) being deposited in state-side bank accounts.

  • Would someone in the DI realize that Jack, Kate, and Hurley were never placed on payroll (the list they were on was only to get them checked in on the island), thus causing them to blow there cover.Eyeinthesky 13:31, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
The oil rig thing is bull! Anyway, the DI probably gives them a VERy small pention, but they get a free home, food, clothing, etc. So it's not too bad a deal. --LOST-The Cartographer 17:38, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

why do you think the oil rig thing is bull? they have some very highly qualified people like Dr. Chang -- do you think he's just getting a small pension? Not usually easy to fill "workman" jobs with native English speakers in faraway places like Greenland or Pago Pag. wfz

  • Well the oil rig theory sounds good enough for me. It just seemed really expensive having all of those extremely talented, and well schooled people working for them. I figured either some pretty impressive pay rates or even more impressive recruiting skills.Eyeinthesky 23:40, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


Since the Dharma Recruiting Project is now offically not canon, shouldn't all references to it be put in the notes or trivia section? The paragraph at the top of the page seems especially out of place, talking about how Damon and Carlton own the Dharma Initiave is clearly not canon stuff. --D Toccs 12:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

  • I agree that the article should be cleaned up to incorporate material from 5th season which features a great deal of new material on Dharma and to eliminate all non canon material.Mister vijay 02:08, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
  • +1, the Damon/Carlton ownership has nothing to do with the show.
  • I went ahead and removed the stuff about Damon adn Carlton from the top paragraph, seeing no objections. --D Toccs 07:59, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Circle of Trust

The circle of trust gets pretty big starting at Hurley and then side characters leading up to "several unnamed construction workers". The only time I remember that phrase being explicitly used is by Horace to Miles in Some like it Hoth but I'm unclear as to whether it was a phrase Horace was using loosely or if that's something more official since later when Miles tells Radzinsky that's he's part of the circle of trust he just shouts at him to get out. Mister vijay 02:35, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

DI Font

Does anyone know what is the font that they use for their stuff (like the ones at the Swan or the food drop)? It's pretty nondescript, kind of arial-like. Is it already existing or did they make it?

Why I (un)did it

Hi, I undid a recent version of the page by LOST-The Cartographer, who removed an ua about how the truce came about. I think the op was talking about the original, pre-LaFleur truce that existed between the hostiles and DI, the one that was broken at the beginning of La Fleur. It was too small to put in a summary, so I leave it here. Bwanartalk|contrib 23:23, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. The Truce was indeed broken in LaFleur, but they worked out a way to continue it by giving them Paul's body. There is only one Truce, no pre-LaFleur one and post-LaFleur one. The conditions of how the Truce came about was answered in the Season 5 Dharma Initiative Kit with the copy of the Letter of Truce. At least, that is the reason I presume the UA got removed.--Baker1000 23:40, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
Baker nailed why I removed it. Virtually everything to know about "how the Truce came about" was answered in the set. --LOST-The Cartographer 01:46, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
Oh, alright, I overlooked the DI Kit. I guess this means it won't get coverage within the show itself. Bwanartalk|contrib 12:09, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

The Arrow station destroyed?

On this page it is implied that the Arrow station is destroyed. When did that happen? Sure, it was in a state of decay, but its structure is still intact, unlike the structures of the Swan and the Flame. It's status in the Discovered stations chart should therefore be changed to either 'unused, partially destroyed' or 'unused, badly decayed', something along those lines.

Will we see the DI times again?/Flash backs?

This has been troubling me. Since now the side plot devise is "Flash Sideways" will they do a "Flash back" about Richard, or Widmore, or particularly what happend to the DI once the bomb went off? I mean I think we will see the end come together but I don't know if we will see a flash back. What do you think? Phryrosebdeco23 21:40, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

DHARMA Initiative → Dharma Initiative

We know that DHARMA is an acronym, however according to Acronym and initialism article on Wikipedia, acronyms pronounced as words or of a certain length are not necessarily always written in all capitals. For example: Unicef, laser, radar, etc... In english, spanish Wikipedia and Lostpedia in spanish the admins moved the page for that reason. So we should move the page to "Dharma Initiative"?

--   FedericoF    talk    contribuctions    twitter 22:32, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
I think we should. In the television show itself, nobody ever said that Dharma was an acronym, and everyone pronounced it as one word rather than as six letters. In fact, I don't even know what the source is for the claim that it is an acronym! — Lawrence King (talk) 19:15, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
We should go with however it was seen printed on the show. Was it ever seen not in all-caps, either on an orientation film or printed material? I don't remember. As for the canonicity of the acronym, it came from The Lost Experience. As I recall Damon and Carlton have stated that the information revealed about the Hanso Foundation and the DI were canon, while the present-day events were not. --Celebok 19:37, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
I agree that we should follow the show's style. Even Wikipedia spells out acronyms in all caps if that's common usage. A quick search reveals entries like UNIVAC, CAPTCHA and even the USA PATIOT ACT, which other sources simply call the Patriot Act. Orientation videos, banners and photo captions in the show spell the name out as DHARMA. Even if it weren't an acronym but simly used all caps for some unknown reason, we should follow that format. --- Balk Of Fametalk 01:33, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose - It can be written as both it seems. I see no point in moving the article if this is the case. It's actually written as DHARMA throughout the Lost Encyclopedia, which we've officially adopted as canon. They must have asked Gregg Nations if it's necessary to write it in capitals every single time before doing so, as it must have been a pain in the backside when writing it. And yes, Darlton said the DHARMA information from TLE was canon. Also if we're looking for in-show uses of DHARMA, just take a look at pretty much every DI logo. Any with the name use capitals.--Baker1000 00:00, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram voting oppose Same reasons Baker brought up. By the way DHARMA was in all caps in all the videos. --LOST-The Cartographer 02:45, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
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