The Ending Screen

What kinda bothered me lately (I just started re-watching from the beginning, though I will probably only watch the first 3 season) was the reason for the inverted ending logo in the last S05 episode at the very end.

It seems this "black vs. white game" talk that is going on even has an effect on what I think about the ending screen of each episode now !

Remember, at the end of every single episode there's usually the black background and LOST written in the center. But, now it's the other way round, it's inverted.

Let's say Jacob and his enemy do have a game (or even a fight) against eachother going on. So far everything that happened, has happened in favor of Jacob's enemy. What happened so far lead up to the event, that Jacob was finally injured by his enemy. Basically, it's like a game of Backgammon (Locke explains it in the first season to Walt as a game of good against evil) and Jacob's enemy has made his moves up until now, that's why we always saw the black ending screen. However, now, it's Jacob's turn and that's why we see the inverted/white ending screen. What will Jacob do ?

Taking this even further down the road: In Backgammon (and most other classic 1on1 board games like chess etc.) both players start out at the exact same position. Does this mean, we will now see how Jacob moves his figures ? Krabonq 22:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


The two children on the show are black and white. Well, when Sun has her baby, it's gonna be kinda in between. Maybe Sun's baby is going to be something like a "balance" between good and evil or something. Lost On Craphole Island 15:50, 15 June 2006 (PDT)

So far, each season has covered one month. I think it's reasonable to assume that will stay constant. The production crew have siad they're aiming for a 4-season arc, and if ABC make a 5th season, it won't have Abrams / Cuse / Carlton behind it. So it's fair to say that they won't get anywhere near Jin giving birth. --Wintermute 05:45, 21 July 2006 (PDT)
They might due it were between Season 3 and Season 4 a year or so passes.--CaptainInsano

Jin is gonna have a baby? What?--LOST ON CRAPHOLE ISLAND!!! My Article of the Week!!! 18:57, 3 September 2006 (PDT)

Sun was revealed to be pregnant in The Whole Truth. Colin 17:46, 29 April 2007 (PDT)
Oh! Haha. Just read it again, my mistake. Colin 17:50, 29 April 2007 (PDT)

Isn't this page getting carried away?

I'm sorry, but some of this is a definite stretch, people are listing stuff anytime they see anything black or white in Lost. Some of it is definite symbolism, like Locke's dream eyes or A&E's stones. But they should be juxtaposed with one another to really emphasize this theme, otherwise they have no more power than "brown and yellow" as a pair. Most of this page is silliness. --PandoraX 20:23, 30 December 2006 (PST)

After nearly 3 seasons of Lost one thing is for certain, almost nothing is an accident. The theme black and white have been made important just as the theme of the Numbers has been made important. Whether or not it's relevant is not up to this page to distinguish. The page simply exists because the colors black and white occur together quite frequently. Colin 17:48, 29 April 2007 (PDT)
Most of the stuff on this page really is pure nonsense. Any couplings of black and white people are borderline racist. And some of the things here are NORMAL to be black and white, like the figures in a chess game. Why did no-one point out the instances where a piano is shown yet? Pianos have black and white keys, DUH. Some stuff is obvious (Locke pointing out the sides in a Backgammon game, they stones found with Adam and Eve, Locke's eyes in Claire's dream, Sawyer's glasses), but most of the other stuff is either "normal" black/white couplings mistaken for a cue (as in, things you EXPECT to be black and white because it's the norm, anything else would be unusual), or just coincidences (like, ten people wearing shirts of different colors, and two of them happen to be black and white, DUH HIDDEN MEANING).--Nevermore 15:17, 17 February 2008 (PST)
I have to agree. The Season 4 section could use some cleanup. Referencing Jin buying a Panda Bear (Black & White?)... et, al. is a little ridiculous. --*creatingmore 09:06, 8 May 2008 (PDT)
I disagree with the fact that bringing up interracial couples is racist at all, it's just pointing out a fact on the show. It could very well be intentional in every way shape and form that Bernard and Rose are white and black. I'd even bet that when writing the black and white parts of the show they decided they should have an interracial couple to add to the list of black and white things in the show.-- SawBucks  Talk  Contribs  02:45, 17 December 2008 (PST)
I agree that some minor appearances of black and white are not meaningful, and that the suggestion that pairings of black and white people are symbolic is ridiculous. I argue, however, that black and white don't have to appear together in order to be meaningful. Just because Kate's horse doesn't appear next to something white doesn't mean that it's not symbolic! Ditto with the Black Rock, the smoke monster, and the white monster. It might even make sense to split this page into a "White" page and a "Black" page, because it seems obvious to me that white and black have meaning independent of one another. I've put some of my ideas about their meanings on the theories page.--Jonnylawless 13:25, 12 July 2008 (PDT)

Adam and Eve's Stones

In the book "The Alchemist" by Paul Coelho there are two stones given to the main character that aid him in making decisions - Black = Yes, White = No. The stones are called Urim and Thummim. Urim and Thummim were also the names given to the Seer stones used by the Hebrews and Israelites to interpret God's Will(they were also the "Seeing Stones" that Joseph Smith used to interpret the book of Mormon). Urim and Thummim can be translated as "lights and perfections" or "revelation and truth". CJDTrismegistus 20:27, 19 February 2007 (GMT)

Kate's Horse

How is Kate finding a black horse an instance of Black & White? Other than the fact that Kate's white. Colin 17:52, 29 April 2007 (PDT)

I think just it being black and being a lone horse on the island and causing car crashes is probably enough symbolism and mystery, theres no need for more

Requested move

{{subst:move|Light vs. Dark}} The concept this page is referring to is first introduced in Season 1 when Locke is explaining the game of Backgammon to Walt. He does not describe the opposing sides of the game as Black and White, but as Light and Dark. Jack then finds two stones, one light and one dark, on the bodies of Adam and Eve. Calling this article Black and White is not appropriate to the context of LOST. Nowhere in the show have characters referred to this ideas as Black and White. Even Darlton typically refer to it as Light and Dark. This is an important distinction because the terms Light and Dark imply a kind of neutrality - as if either side could be good, or either side could be bad - that the terms Black and White do not carry (i.e. Black is typically evil). This distinction clarifies the importance of the character's abilities to choose their fates and relates directly to the theme of Destiny vs. Free Will. It will also better help audience members understand which instances of light vs. dark in the show are important or meaningful, and which ones are coincidental or irrelevant. With the start of S6, and the implications that this season will deal with the themes of battle or war, it's more important than ever that articles like this one help give the audience accurate insight to the show.--Clever Specific 17:27, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Every Season

The Dharma Initiative logo isn't seen in Season 1 at all. We should move that point into the Season 2 section. Burnside65 19:23, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

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