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I've removed some images from this page after a request from the owner of lostsurvivors.com. Please do not take images from lostsurvivors.com or any Lost image thats connected with the official production without first gaining permission from the site's owner. Where ABC have an understanding and a desire for independent fan sites to flourish to promote the show, other independent sites with their own copyrighted photography do not necessarily want other fan sites to use their images, as they may be a draw for visitors.  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  11:58, 6 December 2006 (PST)

  • Just as general reminder notes for editors of this article:
    1. if your source is another website or podcast, please cite the source URL explicitly.
    2. Also do not add composite images from other fan sites, in particular the redshirt images at Lost-TV's impressive redshirts thread, nor from Paul Edney's Lost Survivors website. These will be immediately deleted.
-- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  15:00, 22 April 2007 (PDT)

Theories

  • For ID and other theories, please see also Background cast/Theories
-- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  15:02, 22 April 2007 (PDT)

Rewrite

As far as a rewrite goes, does this article really need as much information as it has on redshirts? The brief line in the opener is good but I doubt we really need to define what "Background Cast" means, as the title pretty much gives it away. I may be wrong. Opinions?   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   12:14, 19 March 2007 (PDT)

  • Actually this article and this topic have a long history of misunderstandings. Background is often confused with redshirts and guest stars, as seen in many talk pages with regard to both definition and significance (i.e. fans claiming that background characters are significant to the script are simply misinformed). Also, nearly every fan site confuses (or intentionally conflates) these three categories, for example see the lost-tv forum thread in which redshirts is a category that encompasses background, main cast, guest stars, and stunt actors-- the admin there understands the issues, but the broader readership may not. Further confusing the issue are times when guest star lines are deleted, or when a background is given lines for one episode. A definition of terms is clearly needed. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  11:44, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

Blond Guy?

I assume Tailie #14 is the blond guy?--Phil (talk) 12:09, 19 April 2007 (PDT)

He could also be the Curly-Haired Guy. The fact that his hair appears that it could be both blond and curly is one reason I didn't try to assign him to a specific one of the first three taken. -- JoserKyind 19:27, 19 April 2007 (PDT)
He could be the blond, curly-haired german Tailender too ;)! --Soul Provider 05:38, 21 April 2007 (PDT)
  • It's very possible that the scripted dialog was not coordinated with the casting of the extras. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  14:55, 22 April 2007 (PDT)

Original 7

  • If anyone has information on who the original SEVEN middle section background were, please post here, or message a sysop, along with your source (e.g. you talked to the bg cast, or you read it at a URL). -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  22:33, 19 April 2007 (PDT)
    • What do you mean original seven? JoserKyind 16:28, 20 April 2007 (PDT)
      • Originally, there were supposed to be only seven background characters. The producers were allowed more from ABC, apparently--Phil (talk) 07:46, 21 April 2007 (PDT)
        • Okay, I see what you're talking about. However, from what it says, it seems as though that was a decision made before production began on the show. Therefore, I rather doubt that there are any people that could really be considered to be the "original seven". JoserKyind 23:04, 21 April 2007 (PDT)
        • JoserKyind: Agreed. However it's interesting trivia to know, and those seven certainly know who they are, so it would be fun to note which ones they were. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  14:55, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
  • Doug was one. See his interview.--Mistertrouble189 21:45, 13 September 2008 (PDT)

Others Tailies names

  • If anyone has information on names for the Others and Tailies background cast, please post here, or message a sysop, along with your source (e.g. you talked to the bg cast, or you read it at a URL). -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  22:33, 19 April 2007 (PDT)

Brig pics

Here are some pics of background others, from The Brig. I don't know how to fit them in the others table, though. --Hunter61 01:12, 9 May 2007 (PDT)

BrigBackground9BrigBackground5BrigBackground6 NOTE: IMAGES #1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 11 DUPLICATES AND CLEANED UP

    • I now realise there should be pics visible in the Others section. However, I don't see them! --Hunter61 22:22, 10 May 2007 (PDT)
  • All of these are already in the article, with the exception of three, which are not (to our knowledge) recurring in other episodes. If you can find them recurring in other episodes, you may add them. Please see the table in the main article. As for the pictures not showing up, Lostpedia has had some bandwidth problems on Wed nights and Thursdays. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  12:41, 12 May 2007 (PDT)
    • That's odd. I never see them, while there's no problem seeing the tailies. Maybe you (we) should try another format presenting them. --Hunter61 23:35, 12 May 2007 (PDT)
    • We're using jpegs. It might be a browser issue with the size of the page. What OS and browser and browser version are you using? BTW to clean up our image space, I'll be deleting the images above for which we already have captures. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  02:30, 13 May 2007 (PDT)
    • OK Duplicate images cleaned up. Please try a different browser, and report back. It shows up fine in Win XP Firefox, IE, and OS X Firefox and Safari. Try refreshing your cache and reloading as you might have some persistence issues from our recent server overload days. Also try clicking on the images themselves to see if you can load the images individually, for example Image:Bgothers-03-3x01.jpg.-- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  02:34, 13 May 2007 (PDT)
      • I've figured it out, it has something to do with my browser indeed. I'm using IE, but for some reason it never shows 125x125 pics. If I change them to 124x124, they do! --Hunter61 22:53, 15 May 2007 (PDT)

DHARMA background cast

Wouldn't it be good to add DHARMA background characters. I'm sure there would be plenty of good screencaps from "The Man Behind the Curtain".--Phil (talk) 11:30, 18 May 2007 (PDT)

Killed Others

Do we have some pics from the Background Others killed on the beach? --Soul Provider 04:49, 26 May 2007 (PDT)

#29 was killed on the beach raid, I will find a picture later. The other 2 (at least 1) unidentified background cast members on the beach were I believe stunt men. -Mr.Leaf 10:20, 27 May 2007 (PDT)

Break this page up

This page needs to be broken up into smaller pages. It's very long and has a lot of pictures. As you can see on the edit tab: "WARNING: This page is 42 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections." I propose that we keep the main page to summarize and link to the following pages:

  • Background cast (middle section)
  • Background cast (others)
  • Background cast (tailies)
  • Background cast (misc)

   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 10:06, 20 June 2007 (PDT)

Barbara Vidinha

Why is Barbara Vidinha included here? Here appearance was credited, thus not making her an background extra, but rather a guest star (similar to Dale Radomski, Geoff Heise, Jon Sakata and Ivana Michele Smith) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pierre80 (talkcontribs) 18:00, 8 February 2008.

  • You may have a point. The answer to the question depends on whether Vidinha only appeared once, in that episode for which she was credited, or if she appeared many times as a regular background extra, and only happened to be credited once, likely for a speaking line that was cut in postproduction. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  02:47, 10 February 2008 (PST)
    • (Sorry for forgetting to sign my previous post) As far as I have been able to work out by watching the series, and as far as IMDb, Lostpedia, Wikipedia and Lost Wikia goes, Vidinha only appeared in Pilot - Part 1, where she was credited (as "Woman"). Pierre80 15:10, 10 February 2008 (PST)

New pics from "Confirmed Dead"

Members of Team Locke

4x02 redshirt Female 1b 4x02 redshirt Female 2 4x02 redshirt Male 1b —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hunter61 (talkcontribs) 09:37, 10 February 2008.

  • Good job. According to the table, that's Dakota L, Norma, and Sean Douglas Hoban. We can fix up the main article if you want: we can rearrange the section for the survivor extras, and incorporate multiple screencaps for various episodes or seasons, or even add a comment box to note significant appearance such as the Team J/L ones that you provide. Or try whatever you feel is best. It's up to you and your energy =) -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  02:47, 10 February 2008 (PST)
  • Cool find. Are these likely to just be "redshirts" or do you think we will see more of them? --Lewis-Talk-Contribs 03:59, 10 February 2008 (PST)
    • Well - Hoban has been a background extra since the pilot, Dakota since at least season 2 and Norma since season 3 or more; so I doubt that they will get any more prominent roles now. One might hope though :) Pierre80 15:14, 10 February 2008 (PST)

Boston Herald article

  • Just found an article from the Boston Herald naming one of our unknown middle section extras [1]. I'm guessing from the photo caption it's unknown #6 in the yellow shirt, and not unknown #1 in the reddish shirt. Just posting here to note the uncertainty in this ID. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  11:22, 13 February 2008 (PST)
  • Ok, I found a talent agency link from LA [2] that lists the same name (though no photo) at a very skinny 5'9" 150 lbs, which fits unknown #6 but not #1, so we're sticking with #6 for now. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  11:34, 13 February 2008 (PST)

Norma

Is it just me or does the "Norma" look like Juliette Goodell. I swear that these two people are the same. Please give me your thoughts. LostCloverfield42

Current Background Cast

We all know that there are many actors that portray the background cast. Why can't we create a page for current background cast memebers. I think it would be a cool thing to see who is currently in the background pool. User:LostCloverfield42

  • Good idea, if you wish you can do an episode-by-episode tally of which cast are visible in the episode, (and optionally in promotional photography only). Otherwise we don't know who is "currently in" unless we simply do a season-by-season tally, which may be another alternative. If the section becomes too large, we also have the option of splitting this article off into three more subpage articles. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  13:55, 15 May 2008 (PDT)
    • Cool,I'm currently figuring out who was in the latest episode (There's No Place Like Home, Part 1). I can't really watch the episodes again, so im relying on promotional photos and screen caps from another lost sight, so it may take me some time. After the finale thought we should have a good idea who is currently in the background cast. User:Lostcloverfield42

Deceased

  • Undoing separation of deceased BG. Rationale: this is a cast list, not a storyline article. This information belongs in the table, rather than reorganizing the table. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  13:55, 15 May 2008 (PDT)
    • OK done. Reincorporated the middle section into a single table. Also changed the format, adding two more Island blocks, and a comments block, which need filling in. If the need arises, editors may expand the number of screencap blocks for the tables in this article. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  15:13, 15 May 2008 (PDT)

Freighter background characters

Maybe we should add the background characters on the freighter. Ryan76el 10:53, 19 May 2008 (PDT)

Break page up

I think this page needs to be broken up into smaller pages. It's very long and has a lot of pictures. Maybe into theses pages :

  • Middle Section background cast
  • Others background cast
  • Tailies background cast
  • DHARMA background cast
  • Freighter background cast

Ryan76el 12:16, 28 May 2008 (PDT)

Ryan76el 12:16, 28 May 2008 (PDT)

  • We might do so soon. DHARMA background is probably not worth doing b/c these occur in a single episode and do not recur. We did have a Tailies section mainly because the original thread by Clayseason at lost-tv forums listed them. I propose essentially the above, minus the DHARMA: 1) [[background cast]] main article retaining all general subtopics, 2) [[background cast/middle section survivors]], [[background cast/tail section survivors]], [[background cast/Others]], [[background cast/freighter]]. If there is no objection after discussion, any editor may go ahead and make such a change. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  13:53, 28 May 2008 (PDT)

Cleanup tag discussion

A cleanup tag has been posted to the top of the article. Discussion of this proposal may be made here.

  • Disagree - The intention of the empty columns was to encourage the creation and filling in of the multiple appearances of the cast across seasons and episodes. This process has begun as intended, and removing the columns may no longer be the best option. However, as indicated in the previous discussion subhead above, the page might soon be broken into multiple sub pages. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  13:53, 28 May 2008 (PDT)

Molotov woman again?

  • I was looking through this talk page and realized an unidentified extra Other that Hunter posted from the Brig looks a lot like Molotov Woman. If some other people tentatively agree, we can put her up as at tentative #34. Also I added #33 since I realized there were two different people who are visible in the same screencap on the Pala Ferry dock. Keep in mind the episodes are almost 2 years apart. Anyways here are the comparison pics, click to enlarge:
3x19-femaleextra

1x23-molotov-square-b.

1x24-molotov-woman

If other editors tentatively agree, please go ahead and add her to the article.

-- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  14:57, 28 May 2008 (PDT)
I would say they were the same person--Ryan76el 08:01, 5 June 2008 (PDT)
I agree; they are definitely the same person. -- CTS  Talk   Contribs 06:35, 15 June 2008 (PDT)


There's No Place Like Home, Parts 2 & 3

Does anybody know which extras are in the finale? Also who is on the second trip to the Kahana. I saw Chris Candella, Steve Tanizaki, Unknown #1. I think I also see Dustin Watchman on the zodiac raft as well.[3]. I believe that there are more on the raft but I am unable to watch the episode again and have to rely on scree caps from lost-media. I know when they were getting ready to put the raft in the water I saw Chris Candella, Steve Tanizaki, Unknown #1, "Lisa", "EZ", Dustin Watchman, and a new background survivor that we have not seen before.[4]. I can remember seeing "Becky Goodman" as well (although I say that it's not Becky, but Vera H.). Other than that I cannot recall anyother background survivors, but I'm sure that there were. So if anyone has any pics or know who was in the episode can you please tell me, I'd really appreciate it. --LostCloverfield42 23:05, 31 May 2008 (PDT)

Okay well I believe that there are 5 unnamed survivors on the zodiac raft when it was making its second trip to the Kahana.

Bg-chriscandella-3x21promo Extra-teamjack4-4x01 Malextra2-4x10 Scott-4x12 Extra-teamjack1-4x01

--LostCloverfield42 11:31, 11 June 2008 (PDT)

  • Isn't one of those people that go on the raft Steve Jenkins? The rest are simply extras correct?--Mistertrouble189 06:06, 15 June 2008 (PDT)
  • And the first is Craig?--Mistertrouble189 06:20, 15 June 2008 (PDT)
    • To answer your first question, I'm pretty sure the second to last picture (Dustin Watchman) is know playing the role of Steve Jenkins. To answer your second question, Yes the first picture is of Craig. --LostCloverfield42 11:51, 25 June 2008 (PDT)

For anybody that is interested, tables have been created on the Zodiac raft page, for the two trips taken by the Zodiac raft. --LostCloverfield42 22:39, 3 July 2008 (PDT)

Two Quick Questions

Ok I have two quick questions. First of all on the survivors background page where is says current/former, how come there are like four different words there to discribe status? Shouldn't be Current or Former rather than Current, Former, Present, and Previous? And my second question is should we start using the respective discussion pages for new discussions? Like i would post my first question under the Background/ Middle Section Survivors discussion page instead of this one? And shoud we only use this page for general background discussion? --LostCloverfield42 18:08, 6 June 2008 (PDT)

  • I am confused too. An explanatory key should be added in <small>typeface</small> at the bottom of the table. Regarding discussions, yes, we should use those pages. In fact we can move old discussions to the proper pages when they are entirely specific to one subpage.-- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  18:54, 11 June 2008 (PDT)
  • Glad someone finally said something about this. Good changes.--Mistertrouble189 06:07, 15 June 2008 (PDT)

DHARMA Background Cast

As stated in an above post, what about a background DHARMA page? It seems like there should be one since there's one for survivors, Others, Tailies, and freighties. -- CTS  Talk   Contribs 20:52, 11 June 2008 (PDT)

  • QUOTE: "DHARMA background is probably not worth doing b/c these occur in a single episode and do not recur." by Santa 13:53, 28 May 2008 (PDT). From #18 on contents table (Break page up). I sort of agree with him, we don't see them anymore, unless in future seasons there are more flashbacks back to the time where the DHARMA people were alive on the island.--Mistertrouble189 06:04, 15 June 2008 (PDT)
  • Even though it's one episode, they are still background cast and should be noted. -- CTS  Talk   Contribs 06:34, 15 June 2008 (PDT)
  • I absolutely agree. It would be very nice to see DHARMA background, even if they only appearin one episode. But wait, Tailies appear only in one episode too! Malachi 01:11, 16 June 2008 (PDT)
  • It is worth considering. The tailies were initially listed b/c of their special status among fans as Flight 815 passengers; fans wanted to chart exactly who was on the plane. We know that some of them (at least one at least) were intentionally used in the same wardrobe in Sydney airport scenes, so that makes two episodes for at least one individual. From this discussion, it appears that DHARMA background might also have special status among fans. Given that some of these extras already have their own articles, by virtue of wearing jumpsuit wardrobe with embroidered nametags, I wouldn't object to the creation of a subarticle for DHARMA background. These would also include any (DHARMA) extras visible in some of the orientation films, including the comic-con orchid one. The individuals visible in the swan film however are not necessarily confirmed as D.I. members, and should not be included. Each appearance should include an episode crossref. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  02:27, 16 June 2008 (PDT)
  • So was a DHARMA Background cast page ever created? I'm going through "The Man Behind the Curtain" screenshots and there's bound to be background cast members.--Mistertrouble189 17:57, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
  • We won't be making an article unless we see extras recurring across multiple episodes, as is the policy for the other articles (except tailies). Have you found any that recur? You can also look at the extras in the various DHARMA videos for matches. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  19:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Ah, gotcha. I'll still keep the pics I found just in case there's some other episodes in future seasons that will show Dharma background cast.--Mistertrouble189 20:52, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

New Format

I took the liberty to creat a new descriptive table for the middle section survivors. My idea was that we could replace the current tables with these new tables. We could keep the link to the old tables as a sort of "Photo Gallery". Here is the new table i created User: LostCloverfield42/sandbox. If everybody likes this table i could creat ones for the other background tables as well. -- LostCloverfield42  Talk  23:12, 6 July 2008 (PDT)

  • It looks pretty good.--Mistertrouble189 05:29, 7 July 2008 (PDT)
    • Adding to my comment, I sort of agree with Santa here, although we should fix up the current tables in any way that will make it better, etc.--Mistertrouble189 13:17, 8 July 2008 (PDT)
  • Disagree It's only a table listing extras, not a table listing characters of survivors or Others. It should be more simple. --Ryan76el 13:20, 7 July 2008 (PDT)
  • Disagree - That table is exactly what is wrong with some tables on Lostpedia. It's almost all blank space between the text, and doesn't organize information better than other methods, being cosmetic in nature. The colors are also partially fan speculation: who is to know who is "current", other than by guesswork of who appeared in the last X seasons? The other information is redundant to the other table (Season appearances, etc.). The current table is not broken, this new table looks like a disguised way to get around creating individual articles for each extra. The main significance about extras is not storyline, it is that they simply appear, and the current table documents those facts. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  13:34, 7 July 2008 (PDT)
    • There is nothing in this table to suggest "storyline". This table does exactly what is should, it dives a little deeper into the apperances of background cast. I am not saying that we completely get rid of the current background table. We can modify it to make it a gallery of background cast. Just delete the seasons column and the comments column and you have a background cast gallery. I'm saying that this new table is able to tell information that people may want to hear. On the currnet background table for example, you would never know that Dakota L appeared in Exodus, Part 1 because there is no picture. The new table would inform viewers the earliest apperance, latest apperance, seasons, as well as any addition information that may be needed. This new table brings out information that would otherwise be left for fans to find for themselves. It helps viewers by plainly telling them what episode they can be first seen in, and what episode they can be last seen in. Its not taking anything away from lostpedia, infact its adding information that many will want to know.-- LostCloverfield42  Talk  23:06, 7 July 2008 (PDT)
  • No, we are not creating two tables. You still haven't addressed the issues of the inappropriate use of a table with such sparse use of text, as well as the problem that the designation "current" is simply fan speculation. Furthermore, we can fix the problems you note by changing the current table to, so that the first and last image columns are entitled "first appearance" and "last appearance". The use of multiple images is less than a month old, of course we are missing images. Also, the season appearance are indeed already in the column. Due to these reasons, there is no reason for a new article, and furthermore no reason to present such in a table format. It is not ideally conceived on all counts. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  00:48, 8 July 2008 (PDT)

Other background cast

There are actors who are in flashbacks and other off island scenes, it'd be nice to get ones that are known some pages/credit, no? Specifically thinking of Daniel Marks, who I want to set up an actor page for. I've found shots of him in several episodes. Any thoughts on how to handle off-island background cast? Congested 01:50, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

What does this Daniel Marks look like? What episodes/scenes can you see him in? And who are the other people are you talking about? You might post some pics here and then see where it goes from there. -- LostCloverfield42  Talk  19:24, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

New entries

I've seen a lot of new ones being made lately, and I'm not sure who's doing it or what the source is. I've been adding the background cast category to them, so they're listed under that, but does anyone know if they're legit or not? --Golden Monkey 23:28, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Man in Black's Others

I was wondering if anyone was willing to add the Others that have defected to the Man in Black to this list? I mean, we've seen these people in a few different episodes now. I would volunteer to help, but I'm no good at pointing out background cast. But it's always interesting to look at those pages. Thanks. --SethFlight815 00:46, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

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