Talk: Ana Lucia Cortez

Where was she really sat on the plane?[]

Did Ana Lucia say that the last thing she remembers on the plane is getting hit on the head by someones hard case that had fell out of the overhead compartments? Hang on, didnt that happen to the Marshall escorting Kate, is she implying she was sat there or thereabouts, because she claims also to be from the tail section.

The Official Oceanic Air site lists her sitting somewhere in the tail section. It's also safe to assume that the case dropped on Mr. Mars' head wasn't the only case that fell from the overhead compartment during the crash. Just because we don't see something happening on screen, that doesn't automaticly mean it doesn't happen. --skks 06:11, 4 April 2006 (PDT)

Agreed. There's a lot of overhead luggage in a full plane like that. --Carl

Photo with lace-up top[]

Even though the photo looks really nice I don't think she has ever worn that top on the island --Jono4174 00:36, 28 April 2006 (PDT)

It's a promotionnal shot, it's just supposed to make her look good, not show how she's dressed on the island. Xibe 06:42, 28 April 2006 (PDT)

And it works. ;D--Tricksterson 08:11, 28 April 2006 (PDT)

Its something i found funny.. on all the promo shots for the show, esp those used for the large official desktop wallpapers, all the cast have obvious makeup on with island backgrounds behind them.. something thats a lot more subtle in the show itself. --MRNasher

Sex n Death[]

Yet another victim of the islands/horror-movie) cliche of have sex and you're gonna die soon.

Does leave the question who did Artz do the horizontal tango with :P -MRNasher

I think Rousseau was feeling a bit lonely. --SilvaStorm

File that under "Questions I Don't Want Answered". Especially if there's videotape.--Tricksterson 10:27, 4 May 2006 (PDT)

Who does Eko need to help?[]

I could have sworn Ana-Lucia said you need to help "John," not "Jack." I listened a couple of times to be sure. Did this change come from watching the CC? Absalom 07:52, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

It is "John". --Techiedavid 08:09, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Yes, it's John, not Jack (repeated by Eko's brother). Changed in article. LOSTonthisdarnisland 08:23, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Who did Ana-Lucia kill?[]

In "Two for the Road", when faux Henry attacked Ana-Lucia, he said to her "You killed two of us". As far as we know, she killed Jason, Goodwin and Shannon. Were Shannon or Jason one of the Others? Or did Ana kill someone more?--Perpetka 14:03, 2 July 2006 (PDT)

Ana killed 2 others , as seen in The Other 48 Days. Cool Man 0912 14:09, 2 July 2006 (PDT)

That's the one who came to "take" people, and Goodwin. --SilvaStorm

Name?[]

Why is this article under Ana-Lucia Cortez and not Ana-Lucía Cortez? --SilvaStorm

Someone moved it. It should be Ana-Lucía Cortez since it clearly has an accent. --Marik7772003 23:48, 13 August 2006 (PDT)

The page is protected, so a SysOp will have to do it. --SilvaStorm

I moved this page to Ana-Lucía Cortez, but it looks like Jabberwock changed it back on the 11 of August. I agree it should include the accent. --Aero *Zeppelin 20:21, 26 September 2006 (PDT)

According to an official source, there is no hyphen in the name. -- Cheers 15:44, 3 March 2007 (PST)

If officially there is no hyphen, then why do people keep adding one? Frustrating! Libbyjones715 15:30, 21 April 2007 (PDT)

It has been noted that her name can be spelt either way (Ana-Lucia/Ana Lucia) although "Ana-Lucia" is most frequently used. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Browndog (talk • contribs), 09:49, 10 May 2007 (UTC).

Says who? Sorry, but I'd rather trust factual observation of sources and take the word of the people who make the show over an unsupported claim. We can observe that:

The episodes captions use "Ana Lucia".
The ABC press releases use "Ana Lucia".
The DVD booklet uses "Ana Lucia".
TPTB specify that it is officially "Ana Lucia", no hyphen.

It's clear that the name of that character is meant to be, and actually is, Ana Lucia. 100% of the official occurrences I've looked up show "Ana Lucia". Even if you could dig up some few odd mistakes somewhere (although you haven't cited any), it could hardly counterweight the overwhelming evidence. -- Cheers (talk) 22:22, 11 May 2007 (PDT)

Rename[]

Rename - I agree with the renaming as proposed [1]. It's better and less confusing. -- Cheers (talk) 22:22, 11 May 2007 (PDT) Rename: Considering Cheers has checked the releases etc. Still need a few other votes though --Nickb123 (Talk) 03:24, 16 May 2007 (PDT)

If the sources all say Ana Lucia rather than Ana-Lucia, thats great, we'll rename it. But can we stick to Ana-Lucia until we make that change. Mixing it in the article doesn't look good, and its easy to replace Ana-Lucia with Ana Lucia when we decide to do that (good ol find and replace) Plkrtn talk contribs email 04:02, 16 May 2007 (PDT)

Rename II[]

I agree that we should rename this section Ana Lucia. It's spelt like that more than Ana-Lucia (i.e: Subtitles on DVD's etc). I did want it to be kept as Ana-Lucia but I suddenly had a change of heart and think it would be best suited to be named Ana Lucia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Browndog (talk • contribs) 2007-06-30T07:12:57.

"The Other Woman-Enhanced" also used her name without a hyphen. I'll move the article now. If anybody comes up with an official source for the hyphen, please post back here. Robert K S (talk) 07:10, 15 March 2008 (PDT)

Why?[]

Why were my changed removed, all I did was add a picture and tidy up some grammatical mistakes? I'm confused as to why that picture can't be included in the article which looks a bit bland now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jamster (talk • contribs) 2008-05-27T10:33:39.

More specifics would help. What did you change and when?--Messeis 12:20, 3 July 2008 (PDT)

Season 4[]

Ooooh, spooky! Her season 2 promotional picture blends right in with the season 4 promotional pictures, this is strange as most of the other promotional pictures for season 2 are done at the sea but season 4 pictures are done in the jungle. Is this a sign????? Or maybe it's a sign of what little details in LOST do to your brain...........Lol! -- Bringlibbyandcharlieback Talk Contribs 11:23, 14 July 2008 (PDT)

Help with a page fix?[]

Anyone know how to get the wacky S5 thing in her info box to become a link? --Jeff 06:08, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Rename III[]

Hey, we should rename this page to Ana Lucía Cortez, because in Spanish this name must be written with accents (I'm from Argentina and I speak in Spanish). And if you don't believe me you can see this link to the page in Spanish. Sincerely

--{{SUBST:Usuario:FedericoF/autosig}} 02:11, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Right, but the character is American. --Dl15 04:51, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Picture discussion[]

I know we normally use promotional pics for main cast, but this isn't a picture of Ana-Lucia. It's a nice picture of Michelle Rodriguez that ABC's marketing department tells us is Ana-Lucia. She looked nothing like this at any point at the show.

I suggest we instead use a screencap. Perhaps a higher-res version of this: --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 14:05, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

It is odd, the image we have now. Ana Lucia never wore anything that ever looked like that, which makes me think it was more a pic of Rodriguez than one of her in character (as you said). --Golden Monkey 14:09, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

absolutely - I have a few like your suggestion, I'll work one up right now - havn't got very high res but it will be better than crap promo stuff for one of my Lost faves (she is so unloved - why?) Charles Kane talk contribs email 14:20, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
I didn't intend to be presumptuous but the image suggested by BalkOfFame is great (I think it is a crop of my file upload) - but as is pointed out it's rather low res and I don't have a high res version of 2x21 "?" - I love those Eko dream shots, Michele looks so, well, Michelle - fantastic, amazonian and hot - but the one I put up is a promo I found (I presume it's a promo) looks like it was taken in a studio same day as the beach shoot for the dream coz she has the same jeans and top on. Please there may be better around and tho I like that one much better than the previous horrible thing I understand there may be better around. Charles Kane talk contribs email 15:07, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
this is the full thing - I did a crop for the Ana Lucia page

Charles Kane talk contribs email 15:11, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely not. Promo pictures are always better than random screencaps ... the only main character to have a non-promo picture used on his article is Walt, and even that is highly arguable. Besides, Charlotte never wore a blue dress either, yet it's used (for her portal picture). Besides that, there are other promo pics of Ana including some where she is wearing her infamous brown coat. We should consider those options before going for a random screen capture / episodic photography still. --LeoChris 22:28, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
The new picture is fantastic. Note that she had the same jeans and top on for her entire stay on the island. No wonder when she held Michael hostage she asked for ammo and... clean socks. --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 23:35, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Now we've just got to fix Libby's page... --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 23:50, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
I'm confused. We had a dispute The only people who participated over a period of a week agreed as to the new promo pic which was not only an excellent, representative photo, but also showed Ana Lucia in costume! Someone reverted it to an out of costume promo pic. I have removed the dispute, restored the great shot and request that we let this lie. If not then the person claiming there is a dispute needs to offer alternatives here and argue in their favour. Meanwhile the current shot should be left Charles Kane talk contribs email 13:19, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Anaq — New Promo --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 19:36, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

This is not how it works for main cast promo pics are used while it is not something she wore on the show the picture is official ABC material which are used on main characters to stop disputes like this from happening--Thelamppost 02:34, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

where does it say that is how it works. Refer me to the guideline. Futhermore this is an ABC Promo pic! Revert til you show me otherwise, futhermore as the new shot had support of a majority the guide (if it exists) may just have been overuled. Email me if you wish. Charles Kane talk contribs email 16:03, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

First off this discussion is ongoing on the ideas page as it could affect every main characters pg and as of now no one has supported not using promo pics. Second in order to make a change you need a consensus not a majority, and you only have a slight majority 3 vs 2, not enough for a change. Oh btw now its 3 vs 3 so no change.-- B1G CZYGS Talk Contribs 17:57, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't know there was a Idea dealing with this - I'll look at it. And I say again the other pic is an ABC promo pic. Sad really that we use a non-lost promo put out by the dunderheads at ABC, when there is an alternative with Rodriguez in costume. I don't see a single vote actually preferring the non costume current pic and I do see people preferring the in costume promo. Ah well, .... Charles Kane talk contribs email 19:09, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
The pic suggested is a promo still while the one in use is one of the set of pics released to represent the main characters for that season if you take a look at the other promos many of them are out of costume and the actors wear more makeup than on screen. Using promos helps to narrow down the choice of shots to use for character profiles which causes a lot less dispute on which image should be used. Lostpedia has been doing such for several years there is no need to change. (Though my account dates to early 2009 I have been on the site since early 2007 and this is my third account due to me losing my password twice)--Thelamppost 23:04, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

My THAT'S NOT ANA argument above seems off. Other photos from the current pic's shoot have been released. I suggest changing to this one. Same clothes, sure, but I think she little more like Ana here. Also, it's a full length shot, like most main character pics.--- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 19:35, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I like this newest one, it's soo goood :D It shows her whole body, unlike the other one. :D But maybe crop the legs off a bit more so it isn't so long. Julietfan2626 Talk Blogs

Yeah, the cropped one is better. --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 20:12, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ana Lucia Cortez S2 New — This perhaps? It's less long

What about this one? Ocie14 00:07, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should have a picture where they're actually posing. Like this full body promo one. Julietfan2626 Talk Blogs

Well does everyone agree with it? Heyjude614 01:53, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Type if you think we should have the cropped one. Julietfan2626 Talk Blogs

Julietfan2626 Talk Blogs

I have always wondered why we have the one we have right now. She's got some funky facial expression, and her hair and clothes are different. Ocie14 21:57, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

--- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 22:16, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

, but just out of curiosity, where did you find it? --LeoChris 00:23, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I Photoshopped her head on my body.

...but seriously, DarkUFO recently published the newly released Season 2 promotional photo set --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 00:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

It is not flattering Heyjude614 00:46, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

It's great - very Ana Lucia-like, and having a cropped full body promo shot matches most other character pages. --ChocolateBeforeDinner 06:43, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Character overview[]

I am removing the section. I'm not sure if it is part of the character template but whether it is or not the contribution adds nothing to the summary, is poorly written, full or inaccuracies and opinions which are offered as if they are widely held whereas they are simply opinions of the writer. Let alone the frequent spelling errors and poor construction. I considered attempting a re-write but felt it not worth while. Charles Kane talk contribs email 08:23, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Post-death order[]

Johnlanigan added a line to say that Ana's flash sideways preceded her moving on, which in turn preceded her visions to Hurley. Baker1000 rightly undid this as explicitly stating what's only a theory. But our current article, in placing the flash sideways after the visions, somewhat endorses the opposite theory.

I think that's a problem. Of the two, Johnlanigan's seems more valid. In her visions to Hurley, which occurred maybe a year of more after her death, Ana came from an afterlife in which she knew she was dead and could communicate with Libby. Yet we presume characters have their flash sideways immediately upon dying, and we treat awakening and moving upon as their final epiphany.

We could reverse the two sections' order, first listing the flash sideways and then the visions. We won't explicitly state one happened before the other, but if we must imply one order, I think we should go with this one.

Unfortunately, we can't simply default to the order in which Lost showed us the scenes because the character pages blatantly ignore this order in arranging flashes against real-time scenes. --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 14:12, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking about this myself. I had a look over on Charlie's article to make sure we weren't presuming the after death appearances were a result of "moving on" and it appears we use the opposite order for that article. I believe this is the precedent we should follow.--Baker1000 21:39, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

All right. I've switched the order. --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 04:24, December 17, 2011 (UTC)