Talk:Alex Rousseau

Gender

› Well, I don't know about that. I do believe Alex is a female. I do however think that the name of this character should stick to the storyline... and Alexandra is not their name, it is Alex. You may imply her full name being Alexandra, but seeing as this is a factual encyclopedic site, we need to stick to the facts.

› I don't know why but i always assumed Alex was a boy, so it's strange to hear everyone refering to him/her as a girl.

› I believe these are just predictions, Alex is a multigenre name, it can be a boy or a girl, we cannot say clearly! Danielle Rousseau NEVER said anything like "her" or "him", she always mentions Alex as "My baby", so we CAN'T be so sure, if it's a boy or a girl!

› I personally think Alex is a boy. In episode 11 os Season 2, The Hunting Party 'Zeke' calls for Alex to hand Kate over to him. I tend to think you wouldn't ask a 16 year old girl to hold a fully grown woman, whereas a 16 year old boy would be perfectly capable of it.

› ::WTF? Look at the picture. Alex is female, end of story. And obviously, Alex wasn't restraining Kate therough physical force--she couldn't. C.m.

› Tania Raymonde may be playing Alex in Maternity Leave.

>Alex is female! At the end of The Man From Tallahassee we saw rousseau look sadly at alex, devastated. she wouldn't react like that if her child was male, because she would be 100% sure that girl wasn't her child! And also, when Alex helped Claire in Maternity Leave, she told Rousseau that she met a girl, that she thought was her daughter. rousseau would've told claire if alex was male at that point.She is even credited in that episode as "ALEXANDRA ROUSSEAU". From the Maternity Leave transcript: CLAIRE: Your baby -- was it a girl? DANIELLE: Yes. CLAIRE: What was her name? DANIELLE: Alex, Alexandra.

Hanso's illegitimate daughter

It's posted in the "Theories" section that Alex may be the "love child" of Danielle Rousseau and Alvar Hanso. To me, that is completely baseless, not to mention absurd. But, I don't want to take it upon myself to delete a theory that, however bizarre, has not actually been disproven. What does everyone else think? --Miss Mary Mack 12:45, 20 June 2006 (PDT)

Alex is female

Rousseau says in Season 1 Episode 23:

The others are coming. Our ship went aground on this island 16 years ago. There were 6 of us... my team, 6. At that time I was already 7 months pregnant. I delivered the infant myself. The baby and I were together for only 1 week when I saw black smoke... a pillar of black smoke 5 kilometers inland. That night they came they came and took her... Alex. They took my baby. And now, they're coming again.

--Joseph 17:25, 22 February 2006 (PST)

Furthermore, Alex is a multi-gender name. Alexandra is not.

• She is a 'Related Character' - related to Danielle Rousseau.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email  

Alex Cannot Possibly be the girl on the hanso site!

"http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j124/mgumn/Untitled-1.jpg"

i am sorry but if this is the image that is being discussed this looks nothing like Tania Raymonde, especially the age

(Mgumn 15:20, 15 May 2006 (PDT))

can i remove the silly comment?

(Mikey 16:04, 17 May 2006 (PDT))

I just did.--Isotope23 05:36, 18 May 2006 (PDT)

Added my theory abouth the others knowing her name

If this Alex is indeed Danielles daughter Alex then how come the others know her name? According to Danielle she was a week old when she was taken from her, and considering the place she was born I find it hard to think she could have been for example wearing something with a hint to her name. Unless of course the Danielle was present when they took her and she might have been yelling out her name, but then again why would she had let complete strangers come near her baby? So my guess is that Danielle is somehow connected to the others, maybe the theory about Zeke being Robert is true.

• Or, she had the baby in the Staff station, named it, then they Others took her baby... Rousseau is none too sane. I'm not sure I would necessarily believe her 1st season contention that she has not seen the others, just heard them.--Isotope23 07:51, 26 May 2006 (PDT)
• Given that the others were able to gain intelligence on the 815 survivors (their names, etc.) it's likely that they were monitoring Rousseau and her group in the same way. And as for Rousseau letting strangers near her baby... It's not as though Claire or Charlie let themselves be abducted. Abducting a week old baby from a post partum mom (who likely did not have medical treatment during or after giving birth, and so was probably not in fantastic physical shape) would not be particularly difficult. --Cleast 12:22, 31 May 2006 (PDT)

Indeed, I mean, we saw it happen basically, though not with Rousseou. Remember during ExodusII when Aaron is taken? Rousseou did not just snatch it, she approached her and stuff, then knocked her out. The Other's could have done something similar, though asking "Does she have a name yet?". But what we DO know is that Rousseou delivered the Baby alone.

• I'm starting to think that we have been a bit too quick to trust Danielle. I mean, she does come out as a bit crazy herself, doesn't she? What if she got it all backwards, and it was her that got the illness and turned crazy, forcing the Others to save Alex, and not the other way round? --Noseman 2006 21:25, 11 November 2006 (CET)

Alex ___??

Where has it been confirmed in the show or by the producers that this is Danielle's Alex or are we just assuming?

• the producers said in a podcast that the arm in The Hunting Party is in fact alex rousseaus arm , so i think its confirmed. --Cool Man 0912 15:00, 12 June 2006 (PDT)
• Surely as she's been raised by Ben then she should be called Alexandra Linus? She probably wasn't registered as Rousseau, as she must have been born on the island. -- Huangdi, 12 April 2007

is alex the rousseau`s daughter?

how could be sure of this? only for the name? we watched a lot of name coincidences on the show... for the age?...... it could be another coincidence.. i don`t sure about this fact considered so clear by everyone...

pd: sorry for my english..

• Alex's eyes are the same color as Danielle's baby.--CaptainInsano
• This is by no means hard evidence, but there's a nice bit of story resonance in having Alex rescue Claire from the medical station if Alex is in fact Rousseau's daughter and was taken from her there all those years ago.
• I think its more than likely that Alex is Danielle's baby put its very plausable that she isn't. Darn L.O.S.T writers refusing to directly explain everything. Princess Dharma

Theory

New Theory (At least for me): Alex is a lesbian! She grabs Kate's breasts as she lifts her.--LOST ON CRAPHOLE ISLAND!!!!! 14:05, 3 October 2006 (PDT)

How old are you exactly? Grow up. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  14:07, 3 October 2006 (PDT)

• Exactly. grow up. who do you think KARL is?

Was Alex looking for Karl?

Was Alex the girl talking to Kate at the rock-digging site or not ? I didn't think so but Carodeluxe does. The girl talking to Kate looks older to me. Kate asks who she is, apparently not recognizing her from the Pala Ferry crew. --Mramsey 19:47, 11 October 2006 (PDT)

It's definitely Alex. I could recognize her anywhere. --Marik7772003 19:51, 11 October 2006 (PDT)

Then the theory that Karl is an Other is strengthened. He may be a reluctant one, though, like Alex. --Mramsey 19:55, 11 October 2006 (PDT)

Disjointed Article

The theories text starts below the infobox, I was wondering if anyone could clear this huge gap. I always get that effect when I try infoboxes, so I can't do it. --The Smiley-Faced Balloon 02:09, 4 November 2006 (PST)

Voice on the intercom?

Are we positive that the voice on the intercom leading Jack to the control room was Alex? It could have just as easily been Juliet, with the static and everything. -BearDog 15:11, 9 November 2006 (PST)

• I agree. I'm moving this to Theories until we have confirmation.--The Swan 12:13, 11 November 2006 (PST)
• It's also perfectly argueable that there was no voice. Jack's mind made it up after all the intercom looked pretty old and unused. Princess Dharma

Questions

The circumstances around Alex in I Do raise all sorts of questions for me. Apparently she doesn't live at Otherville or at the Hydra, so where does she live? How was she able to get to Hydra island undetected? Where was Karl taken and what does she suspect happened to him (assuming that's who she was looking for)? If Kate and Sawyer are as trapped by being on a small island as they've been lead to believe, why did she try and release them and tell them to run? Where could they possibly run to? Is this all just another case of the Others screwing with the Losties minds? --Doc 08:35, 10 November 2006 (PST)

Why do you think that she doesn't live in Otherville? Otherville is on the main island... the Others wondered how Alex got to the Hydra Island. I think it's logical to believe that she does live in Otherville. We don't know much about their village at all. Dreamy Perfection 12:32, 11 November 2006 (PST)

Karl's Status

The writers confirmed Karl would be back, thus he is not dead, thus not Alex's boyfriend. =)--Scorpiusdiamond 12:25, 17 November 2006 (PST)

Do you have a source? Also, just because he's alive doesn't mean he's not Alex's boyfriend. Alex may have just assumed he was dead since nobody would tell her anything. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 12:28, 17 November 2006 (PST)

I pretty much gathered from "I Do" that he wasn't dead, because the first thing Picket asked over the radio when the Alarm went off was "Did he get out again?!". Since Sawyer was in front of him, and Jack hasn't escaped yet, the only guy who could have gotten away "again" (that we know of) would have been Karl. I'll have to look at the transcripts when they come out, but that's how I remember it. It's a pretty safe bet that Karl is her boyfriend and he's alive, I just think that Alex doesn't know where he is, hence the slingshot attack. Speaking of slingshot attacks, were those rocks that she was flinging? It wasn't at least some sort of tranquilizer darts? Did she really charge into a heavily guarded compound armed only with a slingshot and a pocketful of rocks? -BearDog 13:26, 17 November 2006 (PST)

Name

• Should her name be listed 'Alexandra Rousseau' per se? It's not a name the character herself would recognize, and probably does not go by. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tuttlemsm (talk • contribs) .

Alex scenes on YouTube

Lost 2x15 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCIawStA8ik

Lost 2x22 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-PuGOqo0tA

Lost 2x23 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEVS2-xPCWk

Lost 3x02 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asbJHn6_H3M

Lost 3x06 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7EKdwEJPUI

Can be helpfull for contributors--Znch 17:26, 22 January 2007 (PST)

Tania Raymonde

I'd be curious to know if anybody besides me finds the picture of Alex, in character, made up lightly to have a very natural look, much more attractive than the made-up stock 'model' pose we see under the actor's listing. -tuttlemsm

Yes, the picture of her on the Alexandra Rousseau page is a much nicer picture than the one on the Tania Raymonde page. Why would they straighten that beautiful, wavy hair? I'd kill for it.

Rename.

Like what we did with Kate and Locke, we don't have to use her full name in the title, just what we know her as. The Other don't say Alexandra, I don't say Alexandra, and I'll bet most people don't. We always reefer to her a Alex. --James W. 19:58, 26 January 2007 (PST)

Does anyone remember where we got that her full name even is Alexandra? Was that written anywhere? Couldn't it just as easily by Alexandria or Alexis? -BearDog 09:00, 29 January 2007 (PST)

Im pretty sure in an episode Danielle refered to her as Alexandra. Although I do agree that ,most fans know her to be Alex and so I agree with the rename. Princess Dharma

• Yes: Looks like this page was originally named Alex Rousseau, but it was renamed before move privileges were restricted. Unless someone shows transcript or other evidence that her full name is Alexandra, it should be renamed. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 15:54, 31 January 2007 (PST)
• Yes: Although Danielle does call her Alexandra in Maternity Leave, and her name should be recorded in the body of the article as Alex (Alexandra) Rousseau, she's commonly known as Alex Rousseau. From the Maternity Leave transcript:

CLAIRE: Your baby -- was it a girl?

DANIELLE: Yes.

CLAIRE: What was her name?

DANIELLE: Alex, Alexandra.

Kivipat16:28, 31 January 2007 (PST)

• Yes, now I remember. Thanks for looking that up. Personally I think the page should be named with the short name, but I don't think we should bother with the renaming until we know what her real last name is. We assumed it was Rousseau but it was confirmed in "Not in Portland" that she is Ben's daughter, which could make her name "Alex Linus". --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 20:34, 7 February 2007 (PST)

• Yes: And I also agree with the possiblity of changing her name to "Alex Linus", but we should probably hold off on that for now. Although I'm almost 100% sure that she is not Ben's biological daughter, he most likely raised her as his daughter after she was taken from Rousseau. But adopted or not, if "Linus" turns out to be the last name she has taken for herself, then that is the one that should be used in the title of this article, regardless of the name she was born with. Nahald 00:08, 8 February 2007 (PST)
• Rename to Alex Rousseau. That's what I and my friends call her. --Blueeagleislander 00:24, 8 February 2007 (PST)

• Yes, rename, but to Alex Rousseau. --PandoraX 08:12, 8 February 2007 (PST)

• Yes, rename it to Alex Rousseau. Though, it may eventually change to Linus that can be done later like Henry Gale's page was changed to Benjamin Linus.--J-- 09:57, 9 February 2007 (PST)

• Rename to Alex Rousseau for now.-- 02:13, 11 February 2007 (PST)

Alex Rousseau VS Alex Linus

Alex Rousseau is the 16-year-old male child of Danielle Rousseau.

Alex Linus is the older-than-16 female child of Ben

They are two different people. What is the most compelling reason? When Danielle catches Ben in the trap, she and Ben do not show any sign of recognizing each other as the parent of their mutual child.

• Uh, there's no 16 yo male child on the show (Danielle even uses the female pronoun to describe her child). The most likely answer is just that Alex was too young to know that Ben is not her real father, and assumes he is. --PandoraX 08:10, 8 February 2007 (PST)

• Also, Danielle Rousseau claims that they 'stole' her child. It may be the fact that they did do this, and Ben raised her as his own. This would consolidate the two theorized individuals, and explain why Danielle didn't recognize Ben. Ben may have known who she was, but at that point wasn't being entirely forthcoming...

Alex is only adopted by Ben, he can't be her biological father. Danielle was pregnant when she arrived on the island, and Ben has lived on the island his whole life. Alex's biological father is almost certainly [Robert]. --Minderbinder 08:42, 8 February 2007 (PST)

• Which I agree with in theory as well, however, we can't believe anything that Ben told Jack either. There's no other reason to believe that Ben never left the island. -BearDog 15:42, 8 February 2007 (PST)

• Also keep in mind that Danielle is a crazy lady that has stolen babies before. It's entirely plausible that her child died and she tried to steal Alex from the Others. I say this a bit tongue-in-cheek, but my real point is that we probably shouldn't rename this page until a few more episodes have passed and we know more about the character.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 15:46, 8 February 2007 (PST)

Uhh, alex rousseau is confirmed as female. don't believe me, rewatch 'maternity leave'. And also, they can't help it if the person that portrays alex is aging and doesn't look 16. I don't think Rousseau would recognise the face of her child's captor as ben: alex was stolen aprox. 16 years ago, And we learned that Ben joined the others about 10 years ago. he wasn't there to capture alex.

• • Muddying the issue is that we're only taking Danielle's story at her word. "Danielle Rousseau" may be revealed to be a fiction (i.e., she is lying about her identity, or she was an Other who was brainwashed, cast out, and given her backstory and identity, etc. In the latter case, Ben very much could be Alex's genetic father.) In addition to issues of identity and self-definition (see below), this listing may be soon obligated to retract the "Alexandra Rousseau" construction just because there was never any Danielle Rousseau to begin with. -tuttlemsm
• You have to think that Danielle Rousseau's camp was abandoned so that can mean that she had a new place or she was an Other this whole time. Also she could of been lieing when she met the losties.WarthenMan17:52 February 8, 2007 (CST)
• After the meeting at 'the line,' podcasts confirmed that the Alex mentioned by Tom is indeed Rousseau's daughter. However, I still maintain that it is presumptive to list her name as Alexandra Rousseau if that's not the name the character goes by. Most likely she calls herself and considers herself Alexandra Linus. This is much like the listing for Mr. Eko for awhile was "Eko Tunde," which was (correctly) altered because there was never any evidence that "Tunde" was anything more than an alias. However fraudulently Ben may have 'adopted' Alex, suggesting that only a person's birth name matters--- or that a person's birth name is the person's "real" name--- is kind of a slap in the face to anybody adopted. You certainly don't have a listing for Johnathan Cooper anywhere in lostpedia. The character understands himself to be Johnathan Locke, and that's the listing you have for him.

Note the distinction I'm making here. I'm not saying she should be called 'Alexandra Linus' because I think the character is actually Ben's biological daughter. That argument is much the same as the insensitive 'only birth names matter' point of view, except asserting that her proper birth name *should* be Alexandra Linus because of the asserted paternity of Ben. My argument is that characters should be listed under names that they understand themselves to be. Until we know what Alexandra *thinks* her full name is, she should be listed simply as Alexandra (she is the only character on the show with that name anyhow). She almost certainly does not know herself to be Alexandra Rousseau. (As a somewhat relevant aside, just in the name of consistency and accuracy--- if you *are* going to take a stand that original birth names are the "real" names of characters, may I point out that you don't even know Robert's surname, and perhaps *that* was the character's original birth surname.)

Perhaps at some point in the storyline, Alex and Danielle will be reunited and Alex will *choose* to take the surname Rousseau. At that point, sure, list her name as Alexandra Rousseau then. Otherwise, you're asseting a stance that may very much not be shared by the character within the fictional framework, or by the writers outside the fictional framework. We should respect choices and wishes that are as personal as what one considers one's own name to be, even if they are 'only' fictional characters. What we write about fictional characters still reveals what we think and what we value in real life, and that does matter.

I would certainly be most interested in hearing an argument as to why the character should proactively and assertedly be listed here as Alexandra Rousseau when it's not, you know, a name that there is any evidence she currently goes by. By all means, argue that biological happenstance is the only thing that matters to the definition of one's identity. -tuttlemsm.

There is more evidence pointing towards Alex being Danielle's daughter than Ben's. This article should be renamed to Alexandra Rousseau, or at least have the surname removed entirely until confirmation. -- Benn

Alexandra Rousseau and The Bravery

I'm sure the contents of this website will change soon enough, but TELL me the guy in the far-left hand corner of the picture doesn't bear a striking resemblance to Alexandra:

http://www.thebravery.com/

For future reference, when they've changed the splash page, this appears to also be the album cover of "The Sun and the Moon".

Seriously though, the eyes, the eyebrows, and especially the cheeks/cheekbones.

Name

So, if she believes Ben is her father, she must call herself Alexandra Linus?--Phil 18:45, 23 March 2007 (PDT)

Yeah I agree, this article really needs to be renamed. Although "Alex Linus" would be a more appropriate name, as it is the name that she goes by. –Nahald 00:17, 29 March 2007 (PDT)

It would be better if the article was simply titled "Alexandra." Neither potential parent is exactly a sympathetic figure at present. One killed her father and the other kidnapped her. Dharmatel4 09:48, 24 April 2007 (PDT)

Rename

Yes, I was just thinking that (and noticed this above), surely we should be calling her Alexandra Linus, as that is her fathers name! The line in the article, "She treats Ben as her father and appears to know nothing of Danielle, claiming that her mother is dead." kind of confirms the need to rename it, to me! Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  01:34, 11 May 2007 (PDT)

• Rename- I agree. Despite that we as viewers know her as Alexandra Rousseau, she herself identifies as Alexandra Linus.--Phil (talk) 11:52, 11 May 2007 (PDT)
• Rename -- I agree too; until we get the mushy reunion between Alex and Danielle, she needs to be called Alexandra Linus. --Amberjet11 11:57, 11 May 2007 (PDT)
• Rename- But I think that it should be renamed just Alexandra. If we change it to Linus, we will probably end up changing it back later after the eventual reunion. Neither name is more accurate than the other. Dharmatel4 12:01, 11 May 2007 (PDT)
• Rename, although it may be temporary. we can always change it back. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Retasulettuce (talk • contribs) .
• Rename to either Alex or Alexandra --Blueeagleislander 18:29, 11 May 2007 (PDT)
• Rename I'd personally prefer "Alexandra Linus", though perhaps just her first name would be less confusing to those who think of her as a Roussea. If just her first name is used, it should definately be "Alex". It's seems inconsistent to use the full form of her first name - which is seldom used - without a surname. - DrummerGirl 08:52, 11 May 2007 (BST)
• Rename Her name should be listed as Alex Rousseau, which is her real name. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spechtsa (talk • contribs) .
• Rename --Nickb123 (Talk) 14:07, 13 May 2007 (PDT)
• Rename to just Alex. Makes more sense? -Chris^[dt7] 11:45, 14 May 2007 (PDT)
• Rename just Alex, until more develops.--Berethor222 17:06, 16 May 2007 (PDT)
• Wait or Rename to Alexandra Greatest Hits has shown us that she has some doubts about Ben being her father. Plus, I agree with Dharmatel that if we change it to "Linus", we'll probably have to change it back eventually, anyway. -PsychoYoshi 20:26, 16 May 2007 (PDT)
• Rename to Alexandra or just Alex --Funkad3lic 21:19, 16 May 2007 (PDT)
• Don't Rename: Even if she thinks she is Ben's daughter, that doesn't mean anything about her name. Calling her "Alexandra Linus" is conjecture. "Alexandra Rousseau" is not only her real name, it is the only name we have and know for certain. --Sauron18 21:28, 16 May 2007 (PDT)

  Its not necessarly her "only" real name. She could also take Robert's name if she is actually his daughter. Until Danielle explains exactly why she sabotaged Robert's gun and shot him dead, she doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. There are three names she could go by and we should not choose one arbitrarily. Dharmatel4

• Rename to Alexandra (Rousseau) Linus. We're certain she's Rousseau's daughter, so that should definitely be reflected, and since she believes Ben is her father, Linus should also be a part of her name.--Stripes 07:09, 17 May 2007 (PDT)
• Don't Rename she knows something about her birth that she may not be Ben's daughter. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jdaug10 (talk • contribs) .
• Rename to Alexandra. No last name necessary until we know more. ryright 13:47, 17 May 2007 (PDT)
• Rename - Issues are being confused here.:
  1. A person's name is the label that the individual calls themself, and is known by. It has nothing to do with paternity. Example: adopted children almost universally take the family name of the adopting family. Whether the adopted child knows their true parents, or even that they are adopted is completely irrevlevant to the issue of their legal name.
     • The only weak counterargument here is that Danielle would wish to call her "Alexandra Rousseau", but the wishes of long-lost donor parents have nothing to do with neither their commonly used name, nor their legal name.
  2. By definition, because Alexandra does not know the identity of her mother, she could not possibly call herself by the name "Rousseau".
  3. The name "Rousseau" for Alex is a fan contrivance
  4. Even if Alex discovers her true parents, she would still be "Alexandra Linus". The only ambiguity is that on the Island, their is no notion of a "legal name", but that may be ignored since her adopting the surname "Rousseau" would not necessarily follow from her discovering her true mother's identity.
• Rename: to Alexandra. No last name necessary until we know more--Wilbraham Williams 09:25, 26 May 2007 (PDT)

  1. -- ^Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  ^Talk  02:55, 18 May 2007 (PDT)

RESULT : Rename to Alexandra Linus with a redirect from Rousseau.  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  02:52, 18 May 2007 (PDT)

I don't exactly see why this was renamed to Alexandra Linus. The majority of votes say that it should be listed as "Alex" or "Alexandra" with no need for a surname at the moment. And on the note of what makes a person's name - it's not what they like to call themselves. Last time I checked, my birth certificate says my name's Ben, but if I like the name Damien and start calling myself that, does that make me a Damien? No. Not without an official change. Just because Alex "thinks" her father is Ben doesn't mean he is.

By the way, I vote for Rename to either Alex or Alexandra until confirmation. -- Benn

If your adopted as a young child, you do not keep the name of your birth parents. The name Alex Rousseau is because, we know she is Danielle's child...Personally however she will call herself Linus. Read Santa's reasoning above. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  02:32, 26 May 2007 (PDT)

Ben can't be Alex' biological father

If Danielle really was already pregnant when she came to the island, then Ben must have left it to meet Danielle and actually conceive Alex! How and why should he have done that!?

If Danielle for some obscure reasons lied to the Losties, and Ben WAS the biological father, why did Danielle then not die during the birth of Alex since she had been conceived on the island?

So I go for kidnapping and adoption and hence also for Alex Rousseau (if not barely Alex).

The rename comes from the fact that, although she has doubts now, for the last 16 years, Ben has been her Dad. Would she take the last name of a person she never knew existed?  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  03:25, 18 May 2007 (PDT)

• See my bulleted entry above regarding the same issue. In short: the identity of the biological parents is irrelevant to the name. A common example is the last names of adopted children; they usually don't change their legal name even if they discover their biological parents. -- ^Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  ^Talk  14:47, 18 May 2007 (PDT)

Rename

it is revealed that Ben is not her father and Danielle is her real mother and would take her name since her real father died on the science expedition

• Keep name - She was still raised by Ben. I think it's a little too early for her to change her name. Roger Workman 08:40, 25 May 2007 (PDT)
• Keep name I agree. We have no confirmation that Alex will be known as Alex Rousseau. --Libbyjones715 19:08, 25 May 2007 (PDT)
• Keep name I doubt she would suddenly decide to take Danielle's name. For all we know, she might be quite upset, confused and scared of her mother suddenly appearing, she didn't look overly keen! -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  02:31, 26 May 2007 (PDT)
• Keep name The fact that Alex now knows who her mother is has nothing to do with what her name would be. If Claire found out that Christian Shephard was her father, we wouldn't try to change the article's name to Claire Shephard. ryright 09:03, 26 May 2007 (PDT)
• Keep name, BUT setup redirects for other names: An article has to be named *something*, and might as well stick with whatever it is now. But create redirects for her other names; I've written my reasoning down in the "Just Alex" section, right below this one. --Shodan1138 20:11, 28 May 2007 (PDT)
• Rename to "Alex" and set up redirectsShe has always been credited by The Powers That Be as "Alex/Alexandra Rousseau," and is always referred to as such, both on and off the show. Also, in "Through the Looking Glass, Part 1", Alex did in fact meet Danielle and has been released into the care of Danielle and the Losties. However, we do not know what she herself considers her identity. (Isolation815 16:10, 2 June 2007 (PDT))

Just Alex

I think, from all we've seen, that the best possible thing we can do regarding her name is just call her "Alex". We don't know what last name she considers her own, whether it's Rousseau, Linus, or Robert's last name, all we know for sure is that she answers to "Alex", and as such should simply call her that. Anything else is truly conjecture. --Sauron18 18:01, 28 May 2007 (PDT)

Yeah. She was born to Danielle Rousseau, but was raised by Ben Linus. However, the last name she uses is never stated in the show, if she uses one at all. For all we know, it's possible she might not even *have* a last name, and may prefer to just be known as "Alex". We don't know for certain, though there are many logical reasons why it should be one or the other. So, my proposal - rather than just renaming the article, why not have "Alexandra Linus", "Alexandra Rousseau", and "Alex" all link to the same article? Really, you could flip a coin as to which one is the "real" name, but so long as they all go to the same place in the end, I think that'd avoid a lot of future confusion (and future "rename it back again" debates, 'cause those are bound to happen). Whaddya y'all think? --Shodan1138 20:09, 28 May 2007 (PDT)

Personally, I'm indifferent to what last name gets used, but it irks me that her first name is listed as Alexandra. The only time she's refered to as such is when Danielle gives her unshortened name in (I think) Maternity Leave. Apart from that, she's never been called Alexandra in the show, always being refered to (and I believe, but don't quote me on this, credited as) Alex. If you insist on giving her full name in the title, then why don't we have titles of "Johnathan Locke", "Katherine Austen", "Walter Lloyd" or "Elizabeth? Jimbo the tubby 01:12, 9 June 2007 (PDT)

Wow, I want to know who is making these name changes, first someone changes the Eko page to Eko Tunde, and now this? If you ask me, calling this Alexandra Linus is completely illogical. The point of this site is that people seeking information can get it, and if someone walks away from this article thinking it is factually correct that this character's full name is Alexandra Linus, they'd be wrong at this point wouldn't they? If there really is an issue that people have with her last name being listed as Rousseau then I agree that it should just be left as a neutral "Alex" or "Alexandra" with no last name, because neither one can be supported by cold hard facts, which is all the decision to name an article should be based on, not wild speculation. Jokesnsmokes 22:13, 9 June 2007 (PDT)

She certainly doesn't call herself Rousseau or her biological father's name because she didn't know they existed! Her surname is Linus!  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  04:42, 13 June 2007 (PDT)

Until we know for sure that she has a surname (it hasn't been said for certain), there's no reason to have any last name at all in the article's title. I agree that *if* she has a last name, then it is very likely Linus, and almost impossible that it'd be Rousseau, but this hasn't been established yet. I still, however, have no understanding as to why the article is called "Alexandra" and not simply "Alex", for my reasons stated above. Please change this ASAP. Jimbo the tubby 21:43, 13 June 2007 (PDT)

Plktrn, I still don't see why (even after the majority of people here voted to rename just to 'Alex/Alexandra' in the discussion you started) you won't change the article name. Benn June 25, 2007

Its been said before, and it will be said again. The voting is not a final concrete decision on what happens. Calling her Alex Rousseau whilst biologically accurate, is not accurate as that isn't what she would call herself. If we do anything we rename her to JUST Alex. Let me deliberate on it before I do anything. I asked for some clarification from Gregg Nations, I'll see if he did get back to me.  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  03:25, 3 July 2007 (PDT)

STRONGEST POSSIBLE SUPPORT for renaming this article to just Alex. The show has never identified her last name as "Linus". It is original research, and profoundly biased, to simply assume that she sees her own last name as "Linus", when neither she nor anyone else has ever said or indicated as much! Yes, she believed that her father was Ben (though she obviously doesn't anymore, so that's a moot point and not reason to name her after Ben), but how do we know that Ben gave her his surname? He didn't change her first name! That in itself is strong evidence that he could very well have kept her name as "Alex Rousseau"; just as easily, he might have never given her a last name at all, since she's never left the Island. Furthermore, the show itself has always credited Alex with the surname "Rousseau" or no surname at all, which completely clinches matters regarding what her "official" last name is, regardless of what she thinks her last name is (which, again, we simply don't know anyway): last I checked, minors do not automatically get to pick their own last names, and kidnap victims do not have their names legally changed to the last name of the kidnapper!!! Naming this article "Alexandra" rather than "Alex" is ridiculous, because she's never called that in the show itself, and it merely serves to obfuscate the topic to use a name people almost never use over one they almost always do; and assuming that her last name is "Linus" just because we want to believe that she would have adopted Ben's last name, even though there's absolutely no evidence that this is the case, is equally ridiculous. We need a little common sense in the naming policy. Article titles should be shorter whenever possible, not longer; that makes linking to them (both from other articles on this site and from off this site entirely) vastly, vastly easier. When the shorter name also happens to be the more common and uncontroversial one by far, then it's not even a question anymore. -Silence 04:44, 17 July 2007 (PDT)

If the article were just named "Alex" does anyone think that there'd be people complaining that the article isn't named "Alexandra" or "Alexandra Linus/Rousseau/Whatever"? I'm pretty sure everybody would just accept that "Oh, this is the article for Rousseau's daughter" whatever her full/official/speculated name might be. It's been said a number of times: Until we know for sure (ie: official confermation) that she is known as Linus, it shouldn't be in the article's title. For all we know, her last name is Plumfeathers and Ben told her that she shares a last name with whoever he pretends is her mother. She might not even have a last name... We don't know! Furthermore, if the article is going to be titled with "Alexandra" then why don't we have Locke's article say "Johnathan", Kate's say "Katherine" or Walt's say "Walter"? It's inconsistant in addition to breaking from the conventions of the show.Jimbo the tubby 12:47, 17 July 2007 (PDT)

unanswered questions

Why did the Others take her away from Danielle? How did Alex come to be "adopted" by Ben and told she's his daughter? What was she told about her mother before the truth was revealed? Why do the Others call Alex by the name her mother gave her?

These questions were answered in a non-canon sense in the deleted scene between Locke and Ben from "Man Behind the Curtain".

Ben's answer in that scene was that Danielle had murdered the other members of the science expedition including Alex's father and had taken to sleeping in ditches on the island. She was not fit to raise a child in those circumstances and they took Alex away. He further explained indirectly to Locke that from his point of view it was better that she never know her parents so she would not have to go through the pain of dealing with bad parents (in the same way that both he and Locke did).

Obviously this can't go in the main article, but I think its useful here. Ben may not be telling the full truth, but Danielle has admitted to killing Alex's father. Dharmatel4 12:08, 2 November 2007 (PDT)

Which organisation (DHARMA or the Hostiles) actually sanctioned the kidnap of Alex, and other kidnappings generally? It would seem that the Purge occurred four years after she was taken - so was she Ben's daughter for all that time? Erised 05:11, 13 May 2008 (PDT)

Meet Kevin Johnson Scene

In the scene where she and karl are looking at aaron, and then you see alex holding her stomach the way a pregnant woman would, i thought she looked very VERY pregnant, does anyone agree?

After the island?

Someone added a bit about Alex after the island. Should this be here? Sure, it's her death that triggers the series of events, however, it is not her directly, so this is something that should be included in Ben's page, not Alex's.Voodoo 20:13, 24 April 2008 (PDT)

Trivia?

Should it be noted that Alex is the only character who as far as we've seen spent her entire life on the island? Adult Others not seen off island could've been recruited like Juliet, and long term Others like Alpert have taken excursions to the main land. Her backstory is pretty clear. Ticktock24 07:36, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Birthdate

• Do we really know Alex's birth month? We can assume January 1989 based on Rousseau being 7 months pregnant on November 18, 1988. But a) does that mean she is exactly 7 months not between 6.5 or 7.5 rounded, and b) who's to say Alex wasn't born early or late? she could have been born any time between November 21, 1988 (if, though highly unlikely, Rousseau records the distress signal the same day she arrives, giving birth 3 days later) and February 1989. JamesyWamesy 05:51, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Ok, I found something in the episode "Solitary":

DANIELLE: Our vessel was 3 days out of Tahiti when our instruments malfunctioned. It was night, a storm, the sounds. The ship slammed into rocks, ran aground, the hull breached beyond repair. So, we made camp, dug out this temporary shelter. Temporary. Nearly 2 months we survived here, 2 months before --
SAYID: Your distress signal?

So "nearly" 2 months could mean between 1.5 months (January 3) to a day short of 2 months (January 17) after landing on the island (November 18). I think these seem like good "bookends" for the eighth time shift. Therefore we can put Alex's birthday 3 days later (since she recorded her distress signal right after killing her team): between January 6 and January 20, 1989. JamesyWamesy 00:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. Let's simplify it to January 1989 for the infobox and keep this info in the notes. --Pyramidhead 09:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Rename, again

• She was apparently listed as Alex Rousseau during the memorial video at Comic-con, does this warrant a rename ? I'd personally say yes, but I kinda feel I might just be beating a dead horse here ... what do you guys think ? Is this enough new canon evidence ? --LeoChris 21:04, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
  • ...still not sure why Ben would let her be called Alexandra Rousseau, though, given that she wanted to hide the truth about her mother from her. Unless she later changed from Linus to Rousseau unofficially...? --Golden Monkey 03:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I think it is more what the writing team consider her as, and they appear to class her as Alex Rousseau. I think the logic is she is Danielle's daughter and was kidnapped by Ben Linus. As I doubt there are any documents or birth certificate or anything like that lol, she is still a Rousseau. --Nickb123 (Talk) 13:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

N.B. ABC Medianet, as stated in the article, credits her as "Alexandra Rousseau", so with Comic-Con there seems like justification to rename her to "Alex Rousseau" or "Alexandra Rousseau". --Nickb123 (Talk) 14:04, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm thinking, maybe we should handle the Linus situation just like we handled Aaron's special case : Including something like Alexandra "Alex" Rousseau (known to some as Alexandra "Alex" Linus) in the article ... --LeoChris 15:50, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

• How about...Alexandra (Alex Linus) Rousseau?- MRMIKE T  C  E  15:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
• , rename to be consequent. And she has never been called Alex Linus in show. --LOST-Hunter61 16:08, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
• I don't understand why her name hasnt been changed to "Alexandra Rousseau". There's no need for it to say her full name was made known at Comic-Con. If anything, put that part in the trivia. It's ridiculous it's taking so long. --Joshtopher27 09:33, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
• Also, I think we should change it to be like Hurley's or Sawyer's page to say "Alexandra "Alex" Rousseau" and for the top say "Alexandra Rousseau, more commonly known as Alex..." Yes? No? --Joshtopher27 09:44, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
• fine with both Alex Rousseau and Alexandra "Alex" Rousseau, though like John Locke and Kate Austen, having her as Alex Rousseau is better. --Orhan94 17:30, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

(UTC)

• , with either Alex Rousseau or Alexandra Rousseau.--Gonzalo84 03:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
• Change it to Alexandra Rousseau. It was confirmed at Comic-Con, so what are we waiting for? Marc604 18:16, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
• Change to Alex Rousseau. Comic-Con confirmed her name! --Frw22 22:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
• Change it to Alex Rousseau already. It's confirmed! I'd change it myself if I knew how.
• Alexandra Rousseau or Alex Rousseau as per reasons above. We have renamed Tom, Libby and Karl to match what was shown in the Comic Con video, we should do the same here.--Baker1000 12:23, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
• Alex Rousseau — Just as the Kate Austen page, the title should be Alex Rosseau and the opening paragraph should read something like, "Alexandra Rosseau, more commonly known as Alex, etc." --AUX 13:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
• I see absolutely zero disagrees. So what's the hold-up? I tried to change it yesterday to Alex Rousseau, but it wouldn't let me. Again, why is this taking so long? Marc604 23:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Only SysOps can change the actual title of an article. Sure, you can change the name in the infobox, but it won't change the title at the very top. I'll ask a SysOp to make a decision on the rename, as they probably aren't aware that we're discussing it.--Baker1000 23:42, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
• Alexandra Rousseau £乚ב○艹Ю Zholmboe Talk 16:30, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
• Alex Rousseau Seriously, Alexandra is too formal. We don't use Katherine Austin or Charles Pace or Walter Lloyd. If anybody actually called her Alexandra with any amount of frequency, this would be a different story. Just because her name technically is Alexandra doesn't mean we need to use it in the title of the article. Furthermore, this is the third time this article has had a proposed rename. Whatever we decide, I really hope we can make the decision and stick with it this time. Triptolemus 23:01, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
• add the Rousseau. Whether it's Alex or Alexandra is irrelevant. What matters is that we have confirmation of her last name and it should be there. If Tom, Karl and Libby have been changed to match the Comic Con video then she should be too. Why has it not happened yet?

Jeff Goldblum

"* Tanya Raymonde, who plays Alex, is currently rumored to be dating actor Jeff Goldblum, more than 30 years her senior." ...and who the actress is dating is relevant to the character how...? Removed. --Golden Monkey 03:55, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Ha, this isn't TMZ! - NEVERGIVEUP  Contribs  Talk  12:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

MIB as Alex is not a contradiction to Ilana's statement

Concerning the line "The Smoke Monster's appearence as Alex would seem to contradict Ilana's statement that the Man in Black is currently unable to take a form other than that of John Locke. ("The Substitute")," it is in fact not true.

    Here is a clip from a TV Guide piece:

    Why is the Man in Black now “stuck” in Locke’s body as Ilana mentioned? —Rob M., San Diego, Ca.

    Per Lindelof, “There are all these rules that govern the way the island works, and one of them is that when Jacob died, whatever form 
    the Monster was in at that time he cannot change anymore.”

So since the MIB only appeared as Alex before Jacob was killed, this doesn't contradict Ilana's statement that he is now stuck.

Is there a FST page for Alex?

I want to talk about Alex in the FST but don't know where to put it--can't find a FST theory page or discussion on her. Is it being developed? Is her mom still Rousseau? Could she still have been born on the island and got off which is why she and Ben have a close relationship at the school? Her existence in the FST gives further dating info on the time split and incident. --Destinedjourney 19:47, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Last Appearance

Can someone please change her Last Appearance to "The Shape of Things to Come?" Only her FST version was in Dr. Linus and it works better to keep the characters seperate.