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Wow wow wow Paul, flame warring me now lol? --Nickb123 (Talk) 04:24, 21 November 2008 (PST)

I've just written a full article for it. --Nickb123 (Talk) 04:24, 21 November 2008 (PST)
Eh? -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  02:55, 25 November 2008 (PST)

Unique take on the definition for Ajira.

I ran across a very interesting definition for the word Ajira. It is a great website. Lots of information that could pertain to Lost. [1] "No matter how we characterize this spiritual layer, it is the realm of the so-called “higher selfs”, muses, souls, spirits, gods, “angels” etc. The term “angel” specifies the attributes of this realm more precisely. In etymological perspective angel means “messenger” and was probably derived from the Sanskrit term “ajira”, signifying a “fast” motion. We can assume that “ajira” was used as an expression for “spiritual” non-local “quasi teleporting” phenomena - or the assumed “morphogenetic fields” in the sense of Rupert Sheldrake - originally, this is: spirits were seen as non-locally communicating phenomena." --kansasgal71 10:23, 22 November 2008 (PST)


Here's another idea. In Islam, the Hegira (pronounced roughly the same as Ajira) was a journey taken by Mohamed and his followers from Mecca to Medina. Because these first few Muslims were fleeing persecution in Mecca, the journey is often called the "flight" to Medina. Just as the Gregorian calendar begins with the birth of Jesus, the Muslim calendar begins with the Hegira, which should tell you how important this event is in Islamic history. This concept fits extremely well with Ajira's claims that it will take you on a flight that will change your destiny, that will allow you to start your life over again, etc. [2] So anyway, Hegira is not a translation of Ajira, but it would not surprise me at all to find out that the name Ajira was inspired by the Hegira. I really think this should be somewhere on the Ajira Airways mainpage, but I'm new to Lostpedia and don't really know the protocol or etiquette for adding something. Someone wanna add this for me? --Genevieveyorke 23:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

An etymological connection between "angel" and "ajira" is possible. [3]--Morphail 19:56, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Ajira Airways on Facebook

Link to Ajira Airways on Facebook[4]

"Ajira Airways is looking for someone to moderate this group. You must be knowledgeable in the airline and understand what the flights destined for 2009 are all about. Please consider your answers carefully, taking time to research in full. When you are ready to apply, please send Dan Bronson a message to his inbox. Due to the anticipated volume of response, please only send one application. This will be private and confidential, and if successful you will be invited to an online interview for the position shortly."--kansasgal71 16:50, 23 November 2008 (PST)

Spoiler?

A new Dharma Logo was added to this site, but soon deleted due to it being a spoiler. This raises a question about this page. Since we have found out nothing about this, except for a brief image in a music video, it could be assumed that this itself is a spoiler. In other words, this could be something that appears in season 5 of Lost, instead of some sort of ARG as first theorized. Any thoughts? -- #1LostFan  talk  contribs  Lost Wiki  19:58, 8 December 2008 (PST)

  • I think now that Ajira Airways was mentioned during a DSA podcast and we were all encouraged to check it out by the producers themselves then I don't see how it could be a spoiler. We haven't for certain learnt anything new other than Guam is somehow related. ManOfFaith 14:27, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Postcard request

  • Done. Uploaded one under misc trivia and added a line about the others with an external link to that site. Best way rather than describe all six or upload all of them onto the page IMO. --Nickb123 (Talk) 20:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

  • Should it be noted that polar bears do not live in the Southern Hemisphere? Continuity error or show reference? --KirkaFordis Rex 22:09, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
    • I wondered this myslf. It seems like it would be a show reference, not something overlooked.--Piff133 00:26, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Book A Flight

  • I think that there is a flight that can be booked using clues throughout the page. Guam is definitely important due to the origami and reference in the sourcecode. "Supersonic is commercial thirty till meridian" must mean something, but I can't figure that one out (I haven't thought on it much, though). John 3:16 and the Ulysses quote both reference the number 316, so that may be flight 316. "Pineapples in Hawaii" may be an anagram; its solution is the Promotional Code. Also note that the text box for the Promotional Code fits almost exactly the size of 'pineapplesinhawaii,' though that may be coincidence. I would imagine that the number of people would be five adults and one child, though if Ben flies back with them, then six adults. Thoughts? --Piff133 01:06, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
    • After more thought, "supersonic is commercial" could be a reference to the Concorde. If you drop the 'E,' then you have Concord, which is a city name. There is a Concord, Australia which is 15 miles east of Sydney and is at 151 degrees longitude, which is (about) thirty degrees until 180 degrees. This leads me to believe that the other airport is Sydney, Australia. Also, if I'm not posting this is the correct place/format, someone let me know so that I can do it correctly. --Piff133 01:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
    • In regards to thirty till meridian - If you check out Meridian on Wikipedia [5] you find that "A.M. (Ante Meridian) and P.M. (Post Meridian) used to disambiguate hours of the day when using the 12-hour clock." so thirty till meridian would be 11:30... which would back up the flight 316 that leaves at 11:30. - bazooka daver =>
    • I think the answer is in the sample boarding pass. The barcode number and other number create a location just east of Guam. Perhaps the new location of the island? The only information left on the boarding pass is 0081A. Could this be the promo code? ManOfFaith 16:18, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
  • I used a website for making anagrams. It contains 55556 possibilities in english, but since english is not my native language and the words can vary in order, I didn't check them all. Some interesting words I found were: appeal, swine, whale, pipe, spine, shape. There are probably more. http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=pineapplesinhawaii&language=english&t=0&d=&include=&exclude=hawaii+pineapple&n=&m=&source=adv&a=n&l=n&q=n&k=0 Chilian 14:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
    • I used that site too, and there are definitely more than 55556. Their list doesn't even get out of starting with the word 'A.' However, there was another site last night before I gave up that allowed you to pick and choose words, the it would adjust the anagram to remove the letters used. I'm just going to wait for one of the anagram geniuses that I know frequents this site to figure it out. --Piff133 17:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Otsego County airport

When I looked at the sample boarding pass on the ajiraairways.com web site, most of the airport codes were for major and/or significant cities: LAX - Los Angeles; HND - Tokyo; GMP - Gimpo, Korea; BWU - Sydney, Australia; GUM - Guam; and PEK - Beijing.

However, the third code GLR is for Otsego County airport, a small airport in Gaylord, Michigan.

Anyone know of any significance to this?

--Ljstreet 19:41, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I looked these up for a friend, and I think GLR is a typo, because it just doesn't fit with the other locations, unless (since I am largely Lost-ignorant) there's something sneaky about Michigan I don't know.
 
However, if you flip the letters around, GRL is Papua, New Guinea. That's right in the correct neck of the, um, woods.
 
There's my theory -- Corgi 08:41, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
My theory: It is supposed to be "GLR" for the Otsego County Airport in Gaylord, Michigan. It serves as a connection to the DeGroots. They studied at the University of Michigan when they founded DHARMA. Though U-M is in Ann Arbor, MI and it's not very close to Gaylord, MI, the DeGroots themselves could be from that town or they know something special about it that pertains to DHARMA. Perhaps it is a special place, like the Lamp Post station. --Lance E Sloan 11:33, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


Category: Airlines

Eth

Anyone noticed the D with a stroke in the text on the 'adjira adventures' tab, in the section about 'Island adventures'? I looked it up and it is the latin letter Eth, but it seems to derive from slavic languages and used in vietnamese in a different shape. Chilian 23:40, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I figured they just meant to use the dash symbol (if you read it the weird D seems to separate two clauses), but instead did a dash with a D in it. I'm thinking typo but who knows... --Nickb123 (Talk) 16:06, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
That seems like a pretty impossible typo...--24.14.88.176 20:32, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
I think it's just a character encoding problem... in MacRoman, that character is a long dash. 98.25.218.48 11:16, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Anyways, it's gone.--Mc peko 20:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Am I the only one who thinks...

  • ... that this was what the ARG should have been like? The decoding, etc? Seems like someone realised it's better to do these things in-house...--  Lost Soul   talk  contribs  16:12, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. I mean it isn't the same just yet... but I like the use of hex/ASCII - usual ARG stuff that Hoodlum just plain missed. The coordinates codes were also a very nice touch, as I like it when they do something a little bit different. The origami peephole was out there but again it's still trying something different. So yeah, good so far - except an ARG should not coincide with the show (so Ajira had better die soon and come back in May). --Nickb123 (Talk) 16:33, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

N824

Maybe N824 is a flight call sign.

From wikipedia "The United States does not follow the five-letter call sign convention, and in that country the registration number begins with the letter N followed by up to five digits and/or letters in one of these schemes: one to five numbers (N12345), one to four numbers and one suffix letter (N1234Z), or one to three numbers and two suffix letters (N123AZ). The numeric part of the registration never starts with zero."

Maybe they take a private jet from Guam, or Hawaii -- bazookadaver 12/31/08 @ 12:37 PM PST

  • N842M is the call sign from the helicopter in season 4 [6]. Either they messed up on ajira, or it's a different helicopter (or plane) -- bazookadaver 12/31/08 @ 2:15 PM PST

Arabic translation of Ajira

It has been brought to my attention, by an individual whose mother tounge is Arabic... that Ajira in Arabic does not translate to Eternal Life. Because the link provided where this was found is from a google translated page. I have removed the translation and link. If someone can find another more reliable site as proof for this translation, please feel free to add this back.

  • Ajira in Arabic means "Eternal life after Death" [7] --kansasgal71 23:32, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

It does mean "afterlife" in Arabic if you use the Spanish Arabists School romanization, apparently. I've added it.--Morphail 23:17, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much Morphail!!! --kansasgal71 01:49, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

New pictures on seat plan

I'm pretty sure, that you can see the actor Saïd Taghmaoui on the sixth picture that pops up on the seat plan. He often plays iraquis ("Three Kings", "House of Saddam") - so perhaps we get a Sayid flashback first? [8] --Photizo33 14:25, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Am i the only one...

who saw the update to the ajira airways adventure page? --Permafry 42 05:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Different articles for company and website

After tonight's canon mention of this company, it seems like it will play quite a role this season. The fact the attackers had a bottle with their logo, and the knowledge Juliet has on them say quite alot. This is why we already need to make a clear line between the actual company and their importance to the show, and have a seperate section of their role *outside the show. ObiDanKenobi5 05:20, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Agree. At this point we need a split.--Mc peko 20:52, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • I Agree. Permafry 42 23:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Disagree -- At least for now. So far all we have is one logo appearance in a promotional campaign which includes a website, and one logo appearance in an episode. That can easily be encompassed by a single article. The intro text at the top of the article copy has been edited to summarize these facts clearly. We don't have separate articles for Alvar Hanso (TLE vs. episode). Let's see how this plays out in Season 5. If the airline references become very numerous, IMO let's consider splitting the article at that time. If and when we do discuss a split, the nominator should specify their suggestion of the two article names for the split.-- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  06:42, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Disagree Bit premature to split the article yet. I don't see the reason to split at the moment. None of the information we've received outside the show yet ties into the show really... And until it does, we can't say whether it should need it.  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  23:54, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

On the hex code

The translation of the hexadecimal code is correct, but that line from Ulysses doesn't appear near page 316 in any current edition (or any edition I know of). It's still relevant, in a certain way.--Jwood 12:55, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Anagrams

Antonio B. MacCutcheon = ABC Oahu Connection (TM) & E.M. MacCutcheon = chance commute. LOL. ---- LOSTonthisdarnisland 00:57, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

  • Hah! ABC Oahu Connection (TM) is the best one ever. Nice find! Put it on MacCutcheon's site, not the Ajira site.--Mc peko 14:14, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

The name "Ajira"

I read the following on [[9]] : In Australian Aboriginal mythology, Altjira is the sky god of the Arrernte. He was the central god of the Dream time (called Alchera by the Aranda) who created the Earth, then retired to the sky. It is depicted as a large green bird with emu's feet, much like the one seen in "Live Together, Die Alone"

Just thought the names 'Ajira' and 'Altjira' are very similar, since they sound very much alike. What are your thoughts on this one? If this has already been discussed somewhere else i appologize, but had to share my curiousity with you guys.

--Marcopoloco 23:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC) Marcopoloco

  • Yes, I read something like that also. And with that, terms as 'Dreamtime' and the origin in Australia does make this plausible. Smullie 17:27, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
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