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Preview: Template:Infobox Mission A short synopsis of the Mission can be written here.

What do you think?  Dan  talk  contribs  email  You can add any other suggestion here.

I really like it. Hate to be the one to track down every single a-team mission though. But more power to you -Eli




As I was telling the guys, I don't think the way to go is just to clone Dagg's infobox templates, those are made for a different purpose. If we go with templates for this page at all (and I'm not convinced they are necessary here), this is more along the lines of what I was thinking:

Finding the cockpit
Episodes: "Pilot, Part 1"
A Team Members: Jack, Kate
Also Involved: Charlie
Mission: To get the plane's transceiver and search for any more survivors.
Outcome: Accomplished, found transceiver and one survivor, who was almost immediately killed by the "Monster".
Discoveries: Cockpit, deadliness of the "Monster", transceiver, Pilot's POV of the flightpath and problems of Flight 815.
Background: {{{background}}}
Frontplane

Again, I'm not sure if templates are even needed at all for this article, but if we have them, I think this example goes better with the page layout. Maybe Dagg or someone better with wikisyntax and table making can pretty this up or give some suggestions. --PandoraX 07:25, 3 January 2007 (PST)

BTW, I'd be happy to take credit for the original Infobox templates, but I did not create them :)--Dagg 12:43, 4 January 2007 (PST)
I was gonna say... ;) -Chris[dt7] 16:22, 5 January 2007 (PST)
  • If we did go to template, I think that Pandora's looks better because it spans the entire page, and isn't a short squatty box that covers a miniscule amount. Another reason why I like Pan's is because we need to have some variety in userboxes. If they all look the same, it wouldn't be cool. --Marik7772003 13:07, 3 January 2007 (PST)
  • In my opinion, Pandora's template is just perfect. I think we should start using it as soon as we can, so he could get his AA Medal :-P  ODK Talk   Sandbox 15:59, 3 January 2007 (PST)
  • Haha, btw, if you are refering to me here (I am also a she :))... please don't give me the AA. The template was very basic, and there were a lot of ppl who worked more on this page than I did, all I was trying to do was help out with someone else's idea. --PandoraX 16:06, 5 January 2007 (PST)
  • I thinks Lost Souls idea of having different background colours for the outcome of the mission —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Danielhelen (talkcontribs) .
  • OK, the colors thing is not a bad idea. My one request is to please not have it get too gaudy. Here's a palette of some HTML colors; feel free to experiment: link --PandoraX 09:07, 4 January 2007 (PST)
  • I personally like the idea of using templates for these, and Pandora's template is looking really good. Regarding the colors, my personal preference is to stick with one background color, and to always use black as the text color. I do like the idea of differentiating between the success/failure, though. Maybe this could be done with 2 different images instead? Maybe the images could be placed next to the header (e.g., "Finding the cockpit [[Image:MissionSuccess.jpg|20px]]"--Dagg 12:43, 4 January 2007 (PST)
  • Feel free to play around in my sandbox anytime. (oo. That sounded dirty.) As I was telling LS, I think colors could work if they were subdued, but I don't really like the idea of having a patchwork of crazy colors on a page... I'm of the KISS school. --PandoraX 12:47, 4 January 2007 (PST)
  • OK, for those who want to start using the template on the main page (if there is agreement, which there seems to be so far), I moved it from my sandbox to {{A-Missions}}. --PandoraX 16:00, 5 January 2007 (PST)
  • Done. But i thinnkit might look better with different colours for the outcome still. But I don't want to do it without other peoples opinions.  Dan  talk  contribs  email 
  • I like the original one better, but merging the two of them would look nice too. That is to say, take the grey color from the original and the format of the newer one. Oh, and some of them are shorter in length and kind of makes it look weird, is there a way to fix that?

--Cormacalian 20:14, 5 January 2007 (PST)

B-Team or Personal Missions

  • Does the idea of a B-Team page or personal missions (Sawyers Boar) sound like something worth doing. B-Team would include (Hurley, Charlie, Jin and Desmond)
  • Sounds great. I'll start putting together an article. - mafiaitalia22 00:00 18 February 2008

Colours

Ok, We've chosen what the tables gonna look like. But now we've got to decide if they should be different colours; and if so, what those colours would be:

  • Acomplished  : Blue, green?
  • Failure  : Red, oranges?
  • Half-Accomplished/In Progress: Light blues?

What shall we do?

Definition adjustment

I really like this article, it's a new way of looking at the storyline. Two changes I want to discuss here. Obviously the A-Team has changed in Season 3, (with Jack, Sawyer, and Kate captured on their last A-Team foray), and the latest mission was Locke, Desmond, Sayid, Paulo, Nikki. I also would like to loosen the definition for the benefit of the article. Claire's mission in Maternity Leave was not strictly personal since it was a team mission with Danielle and Kate. Also, the mission to find Walt in the season finale of season 2 (with Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sawyer) was also a "personal" mission, but a team mission. Therefore these are very different from strictly personal missions such as Michael running away from the Tailies to find Walt, or Sawyer trying to find the tree frog. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  01:55, 19 December 2006 (PST)

  • I agree there needs to be a redefinition, since the show is dynamic, and groups aren't as clearly defined as that. For example, survivors like Hurley and Jin clearly don't serve the same sorts of leadership roles as Jack and Locke all the time, but they are still part of a clique of friends that inadvertantly exclude other minor characters. For example in Exodus, I think it was Arzt who complained to Hurley about the "cool kid's club" mentality that ended up causing inequity (why does Jin only give his fish to certain people?). Same with the remarks made by Paulo and Nikki, who have recently been brought into the fray, but were on the "outs" before that. I'm not sure if it would be overly broad to say that an A team could be made up of any member that is not a redshirt? --PandoraX 10:12, 20 December 2006 (PST)

Some need to be deleted

  • If there was only one A-Teamer involved, then it isn't really an A-TEAM Mission. Remove the Raft, saving Boone and a couple others. Otherwise you could have:
    • "Finish reading Book X"
    • A-Team member: Saywer
    • Others involved: None
    • Result: Success. He read the book.

--ASEO 08:44, 20 December 2006 (PST)

The following "Missions" should be removed:

  • Saving Boone
  • Rescuing Aaron
  • The Raft
  • Hunting Michael 1 (none of the A-Team were even involved)
  • Searching for the truth of Claire's memories
  • Searching for Henry's Balloon
  • Hunting Henry Gale
  • Spying on the Others
  • Ambushing the Others
  • Saving Mr. Eko's life

--ASEO 08:50, 20 December 2006 (PST)

  • I would say that removing all those would be too much (see my above comment on making the definition of "A-Team" broader). My only agreement with the above would be removing "Saving Boone", which is more of a mission Jack pretty much took on personally. I did think the "reading Book X" comment was pretty funny though, hehe. --PandoraX 10:12, 20 December 2006 (PST)
  • If you read the article, it says an a-mission is defined as "...for the purposes of this article, an A-Mission is defined as a quest which departs from the main body of the survivors, and involves either rescue, assistance to another, or betterment of the survivor community as a whole." So, yes, the above do count as a-missions. So no, i disagree with deletion. --Rhcm123 13:56, 17 August 2007 (PDT)

storyline

In line with the AOTW discussions re: this article, as well as that of others, I've added a section that attempts to set each mission within the broader context of the Lost storyline. I've written an example for the first two missions (and added the element to the colored templates). I don't know how strict these AAA "contests" are, but this represents a lot more work, perhaps more than what remains. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  01:38, 7 January 2007 (PST)

Should we used different pictures?

Getting a Battery
Episodes: "Numbers"
A Team Members: Jack, Sayid,
Also Involved: Charlie, Hurley
Mission: To get a battery for the raft.
Outcome: Accomplished
Discoveries: Danielle's connection with the Numbers, the rope bridge
Background: Hurley, wanting to gain more information on the Numbers, goes on a mission to recover a battery from Danielle. Due to his mysterious actions Jack, Sayid, and Charlie recruit themselves to join with him.
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Shouldn't these kinds of pictures (Long, used on character pages) be used now since "storyline" has been added to the template? (see Pilot, part 2 for how normal pictures look incorrect.) I havent written the stroyline becuase of my lack of writing skills. Any suggestions? --   Dee4leeds  talk  contribs  all  03:38, 7 January 2007 (PST)

  • As I was writing in a note to someone else, I don't think we should have the storyline field at all, list and portal pages should be quick points to allow people to navigate and get the important bullet points. People already have the link to the episode if they want a rehash of the whole plot and how the A-Mission affected it. --PandoraX 10:14, 7 January 2007 (PST)
  • I agree, the storyline section does make it a bit too lenghty and is not needed.  Dan  talk  contribs  email 
  • That was me adding the storyline. Pan might have a point here, although the article still needs some way of showing that the A-Missions provide the skeleton for exposition of the entire Lost storyline's. An alternative is to remove the Storyline field, and simply add a new section (at the beginning or end) in prose format that summarizes the development of the Lost story using the A-Missions alone. This alternative would clean up each A-Mission entry. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  20:09, 7 January 2007 (PST)

Section editing

One of the drawbacks of these new templates was that the sub-sections were no longer editable. For example, it was impossible to only edit the "Triangulating the French Transmission" section. The reasons for this were 2-fold: 1. We are using font-sizes instead of ===headers=== to display the headers. 2. Even if we did use the proper ===headers===, MediaWiki gets very confused when the delineation of sections happens in the middle of a called template.

To work around this issue, I've added hidden level-3 headers to the top of each section, like this: <h3 style="display: none;">Triangulating the French Transmission</h3>. I don't foresee any issues with this, but if people don't like this for some reason, it can (of course) be deleted. I'm hoping that now that people can edit each section, one-at-a-time, then there will be less edit-conflicts.--Dagg 05:12, 7 January 2007 (PST)

Rather pointless with __NOTOC__ on the page. But with it on the TOC is too long, and only getting bigger, so theres the problem which I cant figure out how to resolve. --   Dee4leeds  talk  contribs  all  13:40, 7 January 2007 (PST)
  • I've readded the TOC since after trimming, there are now less than 10 missions per season; the TOC now provides a good, manageable overview of the storyline. Also storyline architecture descriptions have been added to each season. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  23:38, 14 January 2007 (PST)

Recurring Theme

Should this be added to Portal:Themes? It is a recurring issue, and could be nice under the recurring themes section in episode articles to refer to as how many episodes have excersions. Just an idea --Nickb123 (Talk) 11:52, 25 January 2007 (PST)

I don't know, A-Mission isn't really a theme, but it's a useful page for keeping the adventures straight. Hey! How about adding Adventure to the list of recurring themes, and linking it to here? -BearDog 12:29, 25 January 2007 (PST)
  • Maybe we could create a new grouping, called maybe: Fan Analysis. These could easily (in my opinion) be added as Fan Analysis: A-Missions, Economics, Hygiene, Leadership, Rivalries. I personally do not consider any of those to be themes. Within the episode article, there could possibly be a new heading "Fan Analysis". E.g., "* Jack and Sawyer disagree about the handling of the water shortage. (rivalries, economics)." Etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dagg (talkcontribs) .
    • This new proposed grouping could also be called Storyline analysis or Storyline updates. The idea of the grouping is to track different aspects of major plot points over time. -- Dagg talk contribs4 8 12:54, 25 January 2007 (PST)

Ana-Lucia

Just wondering, was Ana-Lucia in the A-Team before her death, she helped out in a few missions and fit in fairly well with the rest of the team. Should she be included? --Blueeagleislander 17:56, 25 January 2007 (PST)

She was deffinatly the Tail equivilant and fit in. I would say she should be included. --   Dee4leeds  talk  contribs  all  07:55, 28 January 2007 (PST)
I disagree. She didn't go on many A-Missions and she died before she could do anything significant. --User:Berethor222 00:08, 27 February 2007 (PST)
  • I think there should be a tail section a- missions section. They had a few missions like journy to the arrow. bjdharma 11:24, 8 April 2007 (PDT)
    • Didn't they find the Arrow by surrendippity (sp?!). Their only real mission was joining the main camp, successful at heavy loss. I dunno of their other missions, testing the radio was a rouse to get Goodwin etc --Nickb123 (Talk) 11:29, 8 April 2007 (PDT)
  • I'm for her being involved in A-Missions. She did help Sayid and Charlie discover Henry Gale's balloon.The-room 23:25, 11 July 2007 (PDT)

YIKES!

The section boxes on this page have been distroyed. Anyone know how to fix it? --Princess Dharma (banned)

  • What is your definition of destroyed? They look fine to me. -Mr.Leaf 09:13, 4 February 2007 (PST)
  • The red boxes have gon as have the grey boxes. --Princess Dharma (banned) 09:14, 4 February 2007 (PST)
  • Sorry, but I see red (failed outcome) and grey boxes (Half-accomplished) as well as green boxes (accomplished) on the page just fine. Is that what you are referring too? -Mr.Leaf 09:53, 4 February 2007 (PST)
  • Yes maybe its just my computor that isn't displaying the colors. Sorry! :-) --Princess Dharma (banned) 09:54, 4 February 2007 (PST)
  • Some of the colors used may not be "web safe" (for a 256 color display palettes, not for 216). That might be the issue. --PandoraX 10:16, 4 February 2007 (PST)

Well in that case can someone make them websafe? Unfair to users like me. Princess Dharma (banned)

Interrigation

Why is Henry Gale's interrigation not counted as an A mission? Princess Dharma (banned)

  • Doesn't really fit in as an A-Mission. --Blueeagleislander 16:49, 2 March 2007 (PST)

Why not? Just because people don't go running through the jungle kicking ass? It is a mission done for the good of the entire group and includeds A-team members. It also forms the backbone of season 2's story. Princess Dharma (banned)

They didn't get much out of it, and "running through the jungle kicking ass" is basically the unofficial meaning of an A-Mission. --Blueeagleislander 19:13, 2 March 2007 (PST)

It contributed massively to the storyline i.e Libby and Ana's deaths; the discovery of the Pearl and partiely led to the downfall of Locke's faith. It is a major mission!!! Also ass is kicked just not in the jungle. Princess Dharma (banned)

Pd pd pd... what ever will we do with you? Oh yeah, we banned you, sorry :P. -- Iron Man  Send a message  View contributions  16:12, 29 March 2007 (PDT)

"The A-Team"

Does any one else find that to be a really dumb name in this context. I mean, first of all, they've never been called that on the show itself, and their 'missions' were only labled that in passing as a joke. I think that it should be removed as a category on this site. --Quint

Actually, the name originates from Charlie. In Exodus Part 2 (I Believe) he stats that he is sorry he wasn't invited on the bloody A-team mission which Kate, Jack, Hurley, and Locke went on. That is where the name came from. That is why we use it on this site. -Mr.Leaf 18:48, 25 March 2007 (PDT)

I realize that, but it doesn't mean its a good name. Its, for lack of a better word, silly. I don't think it fits with the rest of the canon phrases and titles. --Quint

If you have a better suggestion for a name, then put this article up for renaming. I can almost guarantee what the outcome will be as that is what people like and the name used in the show. -Mr.Leaf 18:37, 26 March 2007 (PDT)

Well, there is no way you guys will let me win this, and it is not used in the show. Have they ever said, "hey, look, its the A-team". Or has Ben ever said "Curses! The A-team! Foiled again!" when they see them? No, it's like renaming Hurley to Mongo, because a charactor said it in the show. Do you want a better name? How about getting rid of the name, and renaming the section "Missions" or "Adventures" or something like that. In the opening section, where you list the "A-Team" members, make it 'usual mission goers', or something like that. Anything else would sound better. --Quint

It was also mentioned again by Sawyer, in "Exposé" when he said "The damn A-Team took them all" (guns). --Marik7772003 23:20, 28 March 2007 (PDT)

Not mentioned on the show eh? Well i hope you were paying attention in Expose, CAUSE SAYWER SAID IT! BOO YA! -- Iron Man  Send a message  View contributions  16:11, 29 March 2007 (PDT)

I know. When I was watching it, I sat up straight and was just like, "Oh....snap..." Talk about timing...huh? -Quint

  • I'm not sure if it's wise to booyah over Sawyer having said it. The fact this "A-Team" reference has been cited by only Charlie and Sawyer should dismiss it, not give it credence or longevity. Also, reading through these events in the course of the series, this seems like just another way to rehash the overall plot. It's a way to see the storyline, by focusing only on events that occurred away from the beach and away from camp. I do not buy that Kate, Jack, Sayid, Locke, and Sawyer are any kind of close-knit team at all. In fact they've proven on more than one occasion to be at odds with each other and not particularly a team at all - even and especially when they are successful. Not only is "A-Team" or "A-Missions" a poor name for this page, I question the overall relevance of this page in this context. The evidence provided lends more credence to the idea that this is not a team, but a group of individuals working with one another out of necessity more than loyalty. -- ZachsMind 15:44, 30 March 2007 (PDT)
1. What else can we call it? 2. We know it's just a way of summarising the plot, we even say it in the intro 3. All the A-Missions are to help the survivors, and they all team up (usually) for the betterment of the camp. --Blueeagleislander 16:20, 30 March 2007 (PDT)

Call them "Survivor Missions" or "Island Adventures" or something more general like that. Call the people who go "Regular Adventure Goers" or somethign like that. ZachsMind is exactly right.-- Quint

I AGREE that this title is silly and very loosely based on something only mentioned in passing on the show. "Priority Missions" "Survivor Missions" "Inner Circle Missions" or even ""A-Team" Missions" would be preferable. This site is already too full of fan-jargon and user created silly names as it is, imo.moss ryder 18:10, 22 April 2007 (PDT)

If you guys think the name should be changed, put it up for renaming. I'm curious as to what you consider fan-jargon and we really don't have that much of it : / . -Mr.Leaf 18:36, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
  • It'll have to be a pretty good name to get me to vote for it. --Mr. Crabby (Talk) 19:06, 22 April 2007 (PDT)

How about (815/Lostie/Survivor are all interchangable) "815 Adventure club" or "Lostie Adventure Team Expeditions" perhaps "Survivor Walkabout group" as a mission usally need an episode of walking there and an ep of them walking back. --Hit and miss 04:52, 24 April 2007 (PDT)

More Characters, or secondary A-Team?

Charlie and some other characters are going on more missions now. SHould there be a seperate section for characters such as Charlie when they go on missions that fit the requirements excpet there is no A-Team members? Or how about a seperate section for all the missions, with any characters and any objectives? Polar815 10:56, 11 April 2007 (PDT)Polar815

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe another article for the new "team" of Hurley, Charlie, Jin, Desmond, and maybe Sawyer. They could be the B-team (beach team?) or something. - Theonlysaneone 00:44, 22 April 2007 (PDT)

I think we should decide, in retrospect of a season, how important a character is and if he/she should be join the A-Team. Like, I've always felt Charlie should've been on the A-Team (even though he technically coined the name). Plus, even though his tenure on the team isn't long, I also felt Mr. Eko should be on the A-Team. This would allow for Eko's and Charlie's journey to the plane to be an A-Team mission, which I feel it is caliber of such recognition. Plus, Charlie has been on a lot of existing mission, as many as Sawyer, actually. If he were added, this list would be able to emcompass his journey w/ Eko to the plane and Desmond's journey to find Naomi. I think Eko was simply important enough to be part of the A-Team during his short time on the show. And now, I think it looks as though Desmond might be of such importance. That being said, we still have to be selective w/ who we allow to join. Thoughts?- j52y 17:48, 22 April 2007 (PDT)

The idea of the "A-Team" though is that they're the ones people look to as the leaders. As Hurley points out to Sawyer in Left Behind "Jack's gone, Kate's gone, Locke, Sayid - you're all we got". This proves that even on the show, the survivors don't see Charlie, Eko or Desmond as any kind of leader figure or one to turn to when a mission is afoot. So really, I don't think anyone else deserves inclusion --Nickb123 (Talk) 04:42, 24 April 2007 (PDT)
If you remember, during flashes, Locke called Hurley and Charlie over because he felt the death of Eko would go over easily if they told everyone because of thier influence in the beach community. Now, I don't think Hurley should be on the A-Team, because he doesn't go on very many "missions" but I think we can at least add Charlie. I do think you are correct about Eko and Desmond (at least for the moment).j52y
Its really just crossing into overkill though. "A-Team" is a direct term said at least twice on the show (to memory), referring to the five individuals in the main article. Everyone else is involved, but unless directly mentioned shouldn't be dubbed part of the group. Its just getting unnecessary to add Charlie - he does do a few missions but they are largely what you might say "group orientated" whereas A-Missions tend to be violent in nature and involve the Others/DHARMA. Charlie hasn't had much involvement with them --Nickb123 (Talk) 10:29, 27 April 2007 (PDT)
I know what your saying, but it feels wrong that such missions like Desmond rescueing Naomi should be left off thie list. And, Eko going to the drug plane is also a significant one. The constant there is Charlie. Further more, I think that Charlie could be considered part of the "A-Team" since he went on the first couple missions. He was involved in most of what happened in season 1. Yes, his role has lessoned in seasons two and three, but I don't think it's over kill to include him. Thats really all i gotta say.j52y
I think that there should definitely be another team. We have O-Missions, consisting of the other's missions, and A-Missions, of our central protagonists, but what about things like Desmond's mission to find the parachutist, or the mission to get the car started. I propose a "B-Team" of sorts, consisting of, off the top of my head, Charlie, Hurley, Desmond, and Jin. This would be for the missions which are less plot-centric and more to do with the one-off episodes in which they occur, like "Tricia Tanaka is Dead". And while on the subject, i don't think that how much it's referenced within the show really matters, isn't the whole concept fanon anyway? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Silvertouch (talkcontribs) .
What about an entire article dedicated to personal people's missions? Such as Sawyer's animal hunts, Desmond and the parachutist, Eko searching for the plane, etc. It would include everyone, and it could be in a similar format as the A-Missions. --Berethor222 21:19, 28 April 2007 (PDT)
There is no one A-Team. There is only a series of A-missions, the members of which are the A-Team for that particular mission. I think we should forget about Charlie's (now vastly inadequate) definition except as a trivial or historical note. A-Team members are defined as people who go on (non personal) missions, rather than A-Missions being defined as missions that include pre-defined people. There have been several instances of people feeling excluded from the initial clique of mission-goers at the very beginning of the series and insisting on being included on future missions. The A-Team has long long ago evolved from it's quaint origins. The article should follow suit. --Jackdavinci 18:51, 29 April 2007 (PDT)

Should Locke trying to kil Cooper be a mission

Should it? It would include Sawyer and Locke, obv. And it has significance because it involves Locke having to get this done to become part of the others camp or something.

A-Missions are non-personal missions. This is just Locke's mission. We could have a seperate page for personal missions...--Jackdavinci 17:21, 27 May 2007 (PDT)
  • That might be good or perhaps B-team missions involving Hurley, Charlie, Jin or Desmond. Which would put expose, tricia tanka is dead and catch 22 missions in there.

Rescuing the parachutist

I moved this from the a-missions list, because nobody from the a-team was involved. It is an important mission, so I put it here..--Kemot from Poland 07:14, 9 May 2007 (PDT)

I really think this should be put back. See my comments above. A-Team members are defined as people who go on (non personal) missions, rather than A-Missions being defined as missions that include pre-defined people.--Jackdavinci 17:25, 27 May 2007 (PDT)
  • This one should definitely go back in. While it's the only (truly important) mission so far to feature only "B-Team" members, the ramifications of the mission affect the entire series! -mr_tee_canada
  • I think it should go back. We should also have a b-team mission, or at least put Hurley as part of a-team, considering hes been apart of alot of missions, and is always apart of the season final missions, and did save the day in the season 3 final.
  • this mission was hugely important, i think it should be included on the a-mission page, even if it has no a-team members. Mafiaitalia22 13:43, 18 February 2008 (PST)


Rescuing the Parachutist

Rescuing the Parachutist
He&#039;s baaa-aaack
Outcome: Accomplished
Episodes: "Catch-22", "D.O.C.", "The Brig"
A Team Members: None
Also Involved: Desmond, Charlie, Hurley, Jin and Mikhail
Mission: To reach the cable and whoever crash lands on the island in time.
Corresponding O-Mission: None
Corresponding F-Mission: {{{F-mission}}}
Background: Desmond has more future-prophesizing flashes that show someone or something arriving to island.
Discoveries: Naomi and her possesions, most importantly the Satellite phone and Desmond's photograph, Mikhail alive.
Relation to Lost storyline: Quite awhile after Desmond acquires future seeing, he puts together a group (Charlie, Hurley and Jin) to explore his latest flashes, which are of a mysterious someone arriving to the island from a parachute. As they reach the cable, they see a helicopter crash in the ocean and the parachutist eject themselves from the helicopter and land inland on the island. So, they trek into the jungle, gathering their possesions and Desmond starts to believe it's Penny. Along the way, Desmond is forced to alter the future again by saving Charlie from death. When they reach the parachutist, who turns out to be Naomi, not Penny as Desmond anticipated, they find she is wounded. Mikhail returns after Hurley fires the flare, and Desmond makes a deal with him that if he treats Naomi they will let him go free, and he does so and he promptly leaves, but not without attempting to steal the Satellite phone. The group carries Naomi on a stretcher back to camp.


DHARMA Van a-mission

Re-activating the DHARMA van

Re-activating the DHARMA van
3X10 SawyerHurleyJinCharlie
Outcome: Accomplished
Episodes: "Tricia Tanaka Is Dead"
A Team Members: Sawyer
Also Involved: Hurley, Charlie and Jin
Mission: To re-activate the DHARMA van
Corresponding O-Mission: None
Corresponding F-Mission: {{{F-mission}}}
Background: Hurley found a van in the jungle and wanted to repair it as a symbol of hope.
Discoveries: DHARMA van, Roger, beer, road map.
Relation to Lost storyline: Blah, blah, blah...

Can this mission be included in the article? --Kemot from Poland 06:10, 13 June 2007 (PDT)

Hurley

i think that hurley should become part of the a-team because of all of his contributions.

  • Good point, he has been on alot of treks, and is always been apart of the season final missions and took on a big role in the season 3 final and saved everyone. I agree with having him apart of a-team.
  • Should we add anyone else to a-team. I think Hurley and Ana-Lucia (Season 2) are good suggestions.

Rescuing Jack Part 2: Sonar Fence

should this be considered half-accomplished instead of accomplished? yes, they overcame the fence, but they lost Mikhail in the process. Mikhail was their bargaining chip for Jack. Without Mikhail, they couldn't propose a trade, and it led to Kate and Sayid being captured, and eventually to Locke joining the Others.--Berethor222 09:11, 21 November 2007 (PST)

Beach craft?

How is tha an A-Mission. That was certainly more of a personal mission for Locke and Boone than an actually A-Mission.

L-missions and J-missions articles?

Now that the survivors have parted in two groups, I don't think that the term A-mission is still relevant. Team Locke and Team Jack will lead different missions with presumably different if not opposite objectives. Maybe we should create two different articles. Just a suggestion.--Oliverdevor 06:25, 15 February 2008 (PST)

I was just about ot post the same thing. I think this is a good idea. But I thikn more disscusoin is need before we press on with the creating. --   Dee4leeds  talk  contribs  all  11:22, 17 February 2008 (PST)
I agree, I think we've already seen some examples of L-missions and J-missions (i.e. heading for the Barracks, using Hurley as bait, trading Miles for Charlotte). -- WanderingMathematician  talk  contribs  email  11:25, 17 February 2008 (PST)
I disagree. Keeping them all here makes it easier to navigate. --Blueeagleislander 23:28, 17 February 2008 (PST)

B-Missions

I'm starting a page for B-Missions, would love feedback on the definitions and missions so far. Going to bed now. Mafiaitalia22 21:35, 17 February 2008 (PST)

What happened to having a B-Missions page? I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping the A-team B-Team distinction so long as there's a page for B-Team. I'd also like to venture that Bernard and Eko belong in B-team in addition to the already suggested Chalrie, Desmond, Hurley and Jin. 15:26, 21 January 2009

New Season 1 A-Mission

I was just sick for a week, so I re-watched Seasons 1 and 2. Based on the criteria, I think that Sayid's trek that led to finding the French woman should be added as an A-Mission. His reasons for leaving were to punish himself and to map/discover more about the island, which he succeeded at. --mafiaitalia22 23:36, 17 February 2008 (EST)

I'll go ahead and add it, and change the tallies to reflect it.


Exploring the Shoreline of the Island
Outcome: Accomplished
Episodes: "Confidence Man","Solitary"
A Team Members: Sayid
Also Involved: Danielle
Mission: "...to walk the shore and map the island, see what else there is." - Sayid
Corresponding O-Mission: None
Corresponding F-Mission: {{{F-mission}}}
Background: Sayid and some of the other survivors knew that a French woman had been on the island and made a distress call, and Sayid wanted to leave the camp to repent for his torture of Sawyer.
Discoveries: wire on the beach, Danielle Rousseau, Rousseau's camp, the Others.
Relation to Lost storyline: Sayid walked along the beach from the camp with the ocean on his right until he came across a wire running from the ocean to the jungle. He followed the wire and avoided a tripwire, only to be caught by a pressure trigger trap. He was taken from the trap by the French woman and brought to her shelter, where he was restrained and tortured with electricity for information about her daughter Alex. He fixed her music box and escaped when she went out to hunt, only to encounter her on his escape. At a standoff, she first mentions that there are other people on the island, and she hears their whispers. His gun is revealed to have no firing pin, but he is allowed to escape.
Sol2


Saving Edward Mars? Its Jack, Kate, Hurly and Sawyer

Update? Post-split A missions?

More A missions have been happening haven't they? Two that I can think of off the top of my head are Sayid & Desmond's mission to the freighter and Jack & Juliette trying to stop Faraday and Charlotte from accomplishing their mission at The Tempest. There are surely others. Is this on anyone else's radar screen? --  SacValleyDweller    talk    contribs   20:04, 8 March 2008 (PST)

Corresponding B-Missions?

"Corresponding B-Missions" are listed under every a-mission. While certain O-missions and F-missions do correspond to certain A-missions, i don't believe any B-missions do. Corresponding O or F missions are either countering A-missions, or being countered by A-missions. Since the "B-team" and A-team are all survivors, counter missions don't need to happen/have not yet happened. Correspoinding B-missions should be removed from the boxes. ----Hco22 20:00, 11 March 2008 (PDT)Hco22

  • I belive that now there are 4 mission pages and they should all link together. --Rbfskywalker 15:28, 12 March 2008 (PDT)

No such section

"You tried to edit a section that doesn't exist. Since there is no section 38, there's no place to save your edit." Does anyone else get this when they try to edit the Season 4 section? Is it a site error? And if so, how can it be fixed? --Blueeagleislander 19:39, 25 April 2008 (PDT)

Claire's Search

On Claire's mission, the outcome states that the mission was accomplished. While her memory came back and she re-discovered The Staff, shouldn't it only be Half-accomplished? The main reason she wanted to find The Staff and get her memory back is because she wanted the find the vaccine for Aaron which she didn't bjdharma 09:12, 26 May 2008 (PDT)

On cocumeting Season 4's A missions

Is this on anyone else's radar screen? For sure we have Sayid & Desmond's mission to the freighter and Jack & Juliette trying to stop Faraday and Charlotte from accomplishing their mission at The Tempest, do we have anything else that might qualify?--  SacValleyDweller    talk    contribs   17:29, 4 June 2008 (PDT)

"Investigating the Freighter" would be a successful one; "Transporting Survivors To The Freighter" would probably count as a fail. Also, potentially, we have "Removing Jack's Appendix" (A-Team members being Jack and Kate), "Repelling The Mercenaries" (in "The Shape of Things To Come"), and "Escaping The Island." Things which probably shouldn't be included are Locke's hunt for Jacob's cabin (which was not for the benefit of the survivors) and moving the island (also not for the benefit of the survivors, and would technically count as an O-Mission). Scarecrow 07:52, 15 June 2008 (PDT)

Half-accomplished?

I think we should change the status of "half-accomplished" missions to "semi-accomplished". While some of them are clearly half-accomplished (Saving Charlie but not Claire), others are not as clearcut (Opening the hatch but not fitting in it in time, the hunt for Henry/Ben, etc). I'd just go ahead and do it, but I want to make sure there isn't some reason for using the word "half" that I'm missing. danhm 02:39, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

semi is a fancy (Latin) word for 'half'; if it's to be changed, why not partly? —Tamfang 00:56, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Season 5 A-missions

With airing of Season 5 last week should new missions be added? Possibilities could include: Return to the Island (Oceanic 6 + Ben + additionals if necessary), Escape from the Island (Locke), and stop the "record skipping" (Faraday, Sawyer, Juliet, etc.) Just a thought.


Return to the Island
Outcome: In Progress

Episodes: "Through the Looking Glass, Part 1","The Beginning of the End","The Economist","Eggtown","Ji Yeon","The Shape of Things to Come","Something Nice Back Home","There's No Place Like Home, Part 1","There's No Place Like Home, Part 2","Because You Left","The Lie","Jughead"
A Team Members: Jack, Kate, Sayid, and Locke
Also Involved: Hurley, Sun, Aaron, and Ben
Mission: Return to the Island.
Corresponding O-Mission: None
Corresponding F-Mission: None
Background: The Oceanic 6 must return to the island because it is their destiny.
Discoveries: None as of yet.
Relation to Lost storyline: The Oceanic 6, Desmond, and Frank were rescued by Penny's boat. Ben teleported off of the Island. Now it is their destiny to return.
O6Media


Escape from the Island
Outcome: Accomplished

Episodes: "Through the Looking Glass, Part 1","There's No Place Like Home, Part 1","There's No Place Like Home, Part 2","Because You Left","The Lie","Jughead"
A Team Members: Locke
Also Involved: Richard Alpert
Mission: Return to the Island.
Corresponding O-Mission: Ben's plot to return to the Island.
Corresponding F-Mission: None
Background: Locke must leave the Island in order to save it.
Discoveries: The man in the coffin is Locke; Jeremy Bentham is Locke's codename.
Relation to Lost storyline: John Locke must leave the Island and bring back the necessary people to protect the Island.
Coffin



Stop the Island from "Record Skipping".
Outcome: In Progress

Episodes: "There's No Place Like Home, Part 1","There's No Place Like Home, Part 2","Because You Left","The Lie","Jughead"
A Team Members: Sawyer
Also Involved: Juliet,Daniel Faraday,Charlotte, Miles
Mission: Get the Island to stop time traveling.
Corresponding O-Mission: None
Corresponding F-Mission: None
Background: The Island must stop record skipping or something catastrophic could occur.
Discoveries: The Orchid caused the Island to move through time.
Relation to Lost storyline: The remaining survivors have been attacked by unknown people because they traveled back in time.
Daniel501


Juliet

Is it ok to put Juliet in the A-Team members group yet? She's pretty clearly seen as one of Jack's reliable and regularly used members.

Killing Jacob

I don't think this is an "A-Mission", since it's not Locke but Jacob's Enemy who undertakes it (and he's not a survivor but a neglected other as far as we know). --Metalpotato - Talk - Contributions - 23:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

The only real survivor involved is Sun, and she has no idea about the whole murder plot, so I would say it's not an A-Mission. As Ben is directly involved, we might call it an O-Mission, but with this new dynamic it's hard to classify directly. Radagastwiz 01:52, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
I think that since Ben and Locke changed sides, and with the addition of new "teams" (Widmore, DHARMA, Jacob's nemesis, Bram and Ilana...), we should consider creating new mission lists. We should discuss wich teams to add, and when to start their lists. In the future we could merge the lists of the teams that are "the same", when the show clears wich teams have common interests (maybe Bram and Ilana with Widmore, as the Freighter was). And, for me, Ben is a side by himself since he left the others. --Metalpotato - Talk - Contributions - 15:52, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Miles? and Sun??

Why did these two get A-Team status? They haven't changed much since their inception and I can't understand why they get priority over others. Saying that, I think the current A-Team roster is perfect without these two. Counters?

  • I vote them in, they are pretty active members. Miles defected to the A-Team because well everyone except frank on the freighter team is dead. I vote to keep him on.

KCenturion 18:44, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Update

This article still needs a few updates and checking of mistakes. There are still 2 mistakes that I saw. One thing isn't written and one thing is a writing mistake.--Station7 23:12, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

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