about the seat rows, that are claimed to be 42 - maybe do we know what type of plane it was - i'm sure we could find a seating plan for that...
24.3: article has been almost deleted :-o
Why didn't you just revert it? :-p --220.127.116.11 02:45, 24 March 2006 (PST)
This article claims that Oceanic Airlines is a fansite, but I thought it was an official site created by ABC. Is someone sure about this? --Kahlfin 13:58, 24 April 2006 (PDT)
The website is from ABC. If you click on the Privacy Statement link, it brings you to a website sponsored by Disney, the parent company of ABC.
- removed. --skks 21:24, 24 April 2006 (PDT)
Adams or Carroll?
Ok, Douglas Adams used a great many references to Lewis Carroll in his works, not the least of which was the number 42. Lewis Carroll [aka Charles Lutwig Dodgson] wrote the poem "The Hunting of the Snark" when he was 42 years old and, in the first "fit" [chapter] mentioned that the Baker came on board the ship with 42 boxes. Adams' use of the number is quite generally accepted as an homage to Carroll. So, anyway, there's this assumption that the number 42 refers to Adams' use in regards to the ultimate answer to the ultimate question. Assuming, of course, the use of this number is not purely coincidental. Or Absurd. Nonetheless... There seem to be no other references to Adams' work in the series but there are references and, furthermore, parallels, to Carroll's works. Granted the concept of a question and an answer, regardless of the order or the ultimate nature, are much simpler but, given what little evidence there is to go on, doesn't it make more sense that 42 is a reference to Carroll than to Adams, again, assuming the choice of that number was not random or defined by math (or Absurdism ;-) )?
- Complicate wording, my friend. I'd say "42" is nowadays almost a Douglas Adams trademark, and any reference to it now almost implies at least reading "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy". Then again, I did read (and enjoy) it, so I might be biased about it :) Xibe 02:44, 27 April 2006 (PDT)
- Adams was on the record as saying that he picked the number 42 more or less randomly. Now you could argue that he was lying, or that he subconsiously picked it as a Carroll reference, but the explicit point was always that it was just some random, smallish number as the non-squitur answer to a pointless joke. (Cf. "The Aristocrats", now that I think about it -- in both cases, the delivery of the joke is far funnier than the punchline itself.) Anyway, he long denied that it had any particular reference, connotation, or meaning, and amplified this by assigning it different "questions" in different versions of the Hitchhiker's guide story. I suspect that, were he still around today, he'd also deny that it was intended to be a Carroll reference, even though the parallels between the two writer's works are tantalizing. User:cdevers:cdevers
- My thought is that most of the listings for media references to "42" after HHGTHG would be reasonably be suspected to be references/homage to Douglas Adams, esp. works in the same genre such as Doctor Who. (Adams wrote episodes for the earlier version of the show.) WCFrancis 05:24, 15 March 2008 (PDT)
I'd say Carroll via Adams. Carroll's influence on Adams is obvious in more than just Adams' say-so. Anyone with even a glancing interest in the works of Carroll would stumble upon his use of the number 42 so there's pretty much no way Adams could not have associated the number with the man in some way. It would even be quite logical for him to pay further homage to Carroll by suggesting he decided on the number randomly as it would play well to Carroll's constant replies of "I don't know" to most questions asked about the origins and meanings of his own ideas. That all said, I do seem to recall seeing or hearing some interview with the producers in which one claimed 42 came from The Guide. Adams' use is, certainly, much more well known. If I were him, however, I should think I'd feel somewhat disappointed to have it attributed to me. The notoriety would be cool, I'm sure, but the world of people unaware of that sort of literary reference, the homage to a previous writer I respected, would make me very sad indeed. For this reason I say kudos to the Lost creators for leading us to a path that connects the two great authors. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Laniegrace (talk • contribs) .
Board of Directors
The two latest additions to the Hanso Board of directors are Bill Flood and Sam Hicks. Swap the names and you get Bill Hicks (the famous comedian) and Sam Flood, aka Sam Giancana, Mafia Boss and member of the violent street gang "The 42s". A tenuous link I know, but not implausible.
How do we know he was 42? If anyone has a screenshot showing his DOB or something, please post it. --SilvaStorm 20:35, 9 September 2006 (PDT)
- I can't find anything on Kelvin's page, nor the "Live Together, Die Alone" main and transcript pages stating his age. Think we should delete.--Hurley's Dad 04:30, 9 February 2009 (UTC)