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Kate and Jack's Flash-Forward

  • Jack knows Aaron is his nephew because he told Kate "you're not even related to him," implying that Jack is related to him.
    • Jack will find out about his relation to Claire and Aaron from a vision of Christian Shephard.
      • Jack will go out to search for Claire, and will find Claire with "Christian", setting up the revelation.
    • Jack originally wanted "nothing to do with [Aaron]" because he learns that he and Claire are related due to his father's infidelity to his mother.
    • Jack finds out that he is related to Aaron sometime after Kate's trial and this is why he changes his mind about getting involved with Kate.
  • Jack does not know that Aaron is his nephew; the line is dramatic irony. If Jack knew about his relation to Aaron he'd have more inclination to raise him personally.

Future development of Jack, Kate and Sawyer story on the Island

  • This episode hinted some new developments in the Jack, Kate and Sawyer story line. So far we know that Kate is not willing to make it happen with Sawyer, and that in the future she will be with Jack. This episode showed that Jack still feels for Kate and it also has Sawyer going back to the beach. And in the future, when Jack confronts Kate and asks her what she was doing, she first refers to Sawyer as "him." The theory is then as follows: there is still some more of Kate and Sawyer love story to be seen on the Island, and that will upset Jack in the next few episodes. That is why in the future, Jack is seen so restless about what Kate is doing behind his back, and why Kate refers to Sawyer as "him": because the Kate and Sawyer story will still be very recent and will still be something that bothers Jack.
    • Add in this. In Season 4, episode 1, the end scene when Jack and Kate meet at the airport. Kate has to get back to "him". "He is waiting for me". This may imply that she is referencing Sawyer as "Him" and not the pre-assumed--Aaron being that that is a future event from this episode and they are obviously don't remain together. Jack's future meeting with his father must cause the redirection of Jack's beliefs that he must return to the Island and the further push towards his depression and insanity.
      • I think you are talking about season 3 last episode, the "rattlesnake in the mailbox". It's an interesting point that Kate might refer to Sawyer as "him". I always thought that it isn't Aaron because the tone of her voice saying "he is waiting for me" was quite strange, not like a (surrogate) mother would say it. But how would Sawyer be able to leave the Island, not being part of the oceanic 6 rescue we're going to hopefully see soon.

When the Nightmares Started/Charles Widmore

  • When Jack goes to talk to Hurley, Hurley asks Jack how he's been lately and when Jack discusses how ideally things are going for him Hurley compares it to being 'just like heaven.' Jack replies that just because he's happy doesn't, mean this isn't real, and then Hurley says that he was happy too for awhile, and then he saw Charlie. Charles Widmore says a similar thing when Ben asks him when he began sleeping with a bottle of scotch next to the bed, and he replies 'When the nightmares started.' Obviously there is some connection to all this...
    • Perhaps after living on the Island, if you are forced off, or leave without the Island's will as the Oceanic 6 did, the Island allows you to see life the way you want it to happen, but then begins to course-correct itself and make things go as awful as possible to either draw you back or cause you to reach some form of incapacitation (as we know you can't kill yourself without the Island's will ala Michael).
    • This would explain Hurley's breakdown and the Island's allowing Charlie to reach him, Jack's perfect relationship with Kate suddenly turning sour as soon as he proposed and therefore would have had to raise Aaron and the Island's using Christian to reach him, and Charles Widmore's obvious wealth and influence suddenly being subject to nightmares so bad he has to drink alcohol to help him sleep at night.
      • Jack even asks for the prescription because he hasn't been sleeping well at night, right after mentioning he and Kate's engagement to which Erica replies "Getting engaged is supposed to help reduce stress, not create it, you should talk to someone". Hurley talks to Charlie who tells him someone is coming to talk to Jack. Christian comes to talk to him, and Ben comes to talk to Widmore.
        • Jack starts drinking and mixing pills before bed to help him sleep
  • I think this could have some sort of connection, but doesn't it seem a bit unrelated? I mean, we HAVE learnt that everything they say in this Tv-show isn't as important as it seems. I mean everything isn't just as big as you believe. Though my theory is that his "nightmares" could just be about the Island, that he knows whats about or just have happened on the Island. Like when he first found out that his whole plot with trying to lie to the world that the whole O815 had crashed failed? Or that Ben got off the Island, and then he knows that Ben will come and visit him/ threaten him? That's what his nightmares is all about.

Christian Shephard

  • Jacob is appearing in the form of Christian Shephard. Jacob assumed the form of Christian Shepherd when the body in the coffin arrived during the crash of Oceanic 815.
  • The Island itself is using the form of Christian Shephard because it's available, the same way that Yemi's body was available, and because Christian's form/body is the most emotionally provocative for both Jack and Claire.
    • This is unlikely as Ben's mother was not on the Island and she appeared to him in the same fashion.
  • The reason the smoke-detector beeped before Christian Shepherd showed up is because "Christian" is the smoke monster.
  • The smoke detector wasn't beeping loudly and frequently, the way it would if it detected smoke; it was beeping quietly at regular intervals, the way it does when the battery is low and needs replacing.
  • The Christian Shepherd that Claire sees is actually Christian Shepherd and not the mysterious one we've been seeing from Jack's perspective, because that Christian is always in a suit and white tennis shoes and speaks to Jack, whereas the one we see holding Aaron is disheveled with matted down hair in a striped shirt and does not say a word. Perhaps this has something to do with the preview for 'Next time on LOST' and the man that Locke speaks to (I won't put more here since I know they don't show the 'next time on lost' things Overseas/Outside the US and that might make it a spoiler, so anyone who did see it knows what I'm talking about)
  • I agree with that Jacob could use bodies on the Island that is available. But shouldn't he have used all the other bodies on the Island as well? Perhaps he is choosing body carefully that matches the person he is about to visit.
  • And another thing, because there must be some sort of connection that the producers show Christian Shephard visiting Claire AND Jack in the same episode, though it isn't the same "time" sort of speak. I mean, why did he visit them THEN, why then? Why didn't he visit them earlier or later?
    • If it's true that the body of Christian Shephard was "reanimated" by Jacob (or example 2: Yemi) - how does this explain the appearance of Ben's mother when he was a boy in episode 3x20? (Man Behind The Curtain) - This could be related to "The Magic Box" somehow. The Island's power to make things appear or happen. (Kate's Horse, Cooper, Ben's Mother, Christian Shephard, Boone.) Note: It's possible each time you see Walt, that's really him and not The Island's manifestation of him; it appears The Island only shows you people who have died.
  • When we see dead people on the Island, what we are seeing is the Island allowing the consciousness of these people to manifest itself. as a person dies the consciousness, or soul, can live on the Island, explaining how we see dead people, hear dead people whispering. the likes of yemi, christian, bens mother, all have links to the Island and therefore they can project their soul through the smoke monster/jacob.
    • it is the Island that is manipulating the souls of the dead for its own agenda.
    • walt is not dead, but could have special influence and control of his consciousness, and therefore can harness the Island's powers to appear there.
      • maybe the Others performed experiments on walt, and other people on the list, to enable a telepathic type link if they are ever off the Island. this could also explain the failed suicides by michael, charlie visiting hurley and charles widmores nightmares.
  • Christian, like Widmore, was once on the Island. This is why he constantly jets around the world and ultimately winds up drinking (like Widmore does, and Jack is beginning to do) to ease the pain. His consciousness orchestrated the crash of 815 so that he could finally be back on the Island.

Sawyer's favor

  • Kate's favor for Sawyer is connected to Ben's war with Widmore. Or, she wasn't really doing something for Sawyer, which was just a ruse/con to get Jack distracted with emotion, and she was really working directly for Ben.
  • Kate is working for Ben 'to protect Sawyer', in much the same way as Sayid works for Ben 'to protect those still on the Island'.
  • Kate was on the phone with Cassidy when she told Jack she was talking with Maureen and she had returned from seeing Cassidy and Clementine when Jack questioned where she was.
  • Kate's promise to Sawyer has to do with his daughter.
    • I think this is very likely - and also why she didn't want to tell Jack about it. Maybe Sawyer only trusts Kate with knowing about his daughter.
  • Sawyer actually managed to get off the Island at some point in the future after the Oceanic 6. He let Kate know but kept Jack in the dark. Kate is having an affair with Sawyer, knowing it will never be discovered by Jack since Jack is 100% certain that no-one can escape/get to the Island anymore.
    • I tend to agree. There's something suspicious about, "You can come over for an hour," or words to that effect.--Gaarmyvet 14:20, 6 May 2008 (PDT)
  • I agree more that she is lying to Jack about the whole deal, probably she still has some connection to Ben and that Ben uses the people on the Island as hostages of some sort to the Oceanic 6. But why would Kate lie to Jack about visiting Cassidy and/or Clementine? If hes just jealous about Kate even trying to help Sawyers family hes got a big problem.
    • Well, duh, don't you think we've seen that Jack has some BIG PROBLEMS with how he deals with relationships.
  • The favor is for Kate to let Cassidy and Clementine know he's alive and about the money in the bank for Clementine.

Claire's fate

  • Claire was led away...
  • Claire was not led away, because she would have never gone anywhere without Aaron. Claire was killed by the Island/Jacob/the Monster/Christian. When she saw Aaron in Christian's arms, she ran after Christian to recover Aaron. But Christian led her to some trap or danger, and she died.
    • A bit farfetched since it is not normal to kill main characters off like that for no apparent reason.
    • Miles knew this and he didn't do anything to prevent it because he believes you cannot interfere with supernatural powers.
  • In "Through the Looking Glass" Desmond tells Charlie he has to "push the button" because his vision is that Claire and Aaron get on to a helicopter. I suppose he could be lying and saying that so Charlie will die, but I think its more in his character to be telling the truth about seeing Claire get on a helicopter. Don't the Others love baby's and children....specifically CLAIRE's baby? You'd think after all the Others (and claire) went through in Season 1 and 2 that the Others would have taken Aaron as well...hell, they'd be more inclined to take Aaron and leave Claire.
  • Sawyer stayed on the Island to continue to look for Claire, because he feels responsible for her disappearance.
    • Sawyer has made it clear in the past that he doesn't want to go back to the real world.
  • Claire will join Locke, Ben, and Hurley on their trek to Jacob's cabin.
  • Claire is "undead." She telegraphs this when she says that she's "not seeing things anymore" (visions). She died when the rocket hit her bungalow. These "undead" characters may be "living" in a different timeline, connected to the Island's time-shifting powers. It is evident that Miles senses this and that was why he was not very concerned with the fact that she had wandered off. Dead characters on this show do seem to have some corporeal abilities (Charlie punching Hurley at the hospital, Christian holding the baby, etc.) This may even be the reason that certain characters STAY on the Island, because they need to maintain a connection with the Island to remain in their "undead timeline state" versus really dead.
    • As in the movie The Sixth Sense, she doesn't knows she's dead but Miles does.
      • In The Sixth Sense, the young boy is invisible to all except the psychiatrist (also dead). There are too many people who do not seem (by plot) to be dead who can see Claire.
    • Also worth mentioning is the scene where Miles was staring at her to the point where he seemed to be obsessed with something about her. We know that Miles has some sort of connection to sensing the dead. Perhaps he was sensing it at this moment?
    • This could also be the precursor to the Season 5 storyline (aka The Zombie Season).

Aaron/Moses Comparison

  • This might be totally off the wall, but perhaps Aaron represents Moses somehow. Moses was left by his mother for someone else to raise. He became a great leader of the Israelites, getting them out of Egypt. Aaron was left in the tree all wrapped up like a little baby Moses. There are plenty of bible references in this show. Aaron was left by his mother and we know that someone else raises him (Kate). Does he become a great man who leads his people from some sort of captivity? We know that the psychic in Season 1 told Claire that she had to get on that plane to LA. Did he see some greatness in Aaron's future? Could all this be leading to a greatness of Aaron or something he does??
  • Aaron is Moses' brother. Aaron was his helper and assistant during their wanderings for the promised land. He also suffered with the Israelites while Moses was being raised as the prince of Egypt. Aaron and Moses were descendants of Levi, who was one of Jacob's sons!!
  • Moses was a shepherd for the Israelites. Jack's last name is Shephard.

Hallucinations

  • Hurley sees Charlie off and the Island and Jack sees his father; Sayid is probably seeing Nadia, Sun is seeing either Jin or Jae Lee, depending on if Jin is really dead, Kate is seeing Wayne, the Marshal, or her mother, if her mother is dead. Aaron sees Claire (or even Charlie).
    • What suggests Sayid is seeing Nadia? Did Sun see Jin other than during giving birth? What would cause Kate to see Wayne? Short of some supernatural ability, would Aaron even know who Claire was?
      • That is assuming all of the Oceanic 6 are seeing dead people. If Sayid, Kate, Sun, and Aaron are seeing people, they are the most likely candidates. For that matter, Sayid could also be seeing Shannon.
  • The only people seeing visions in the future are Jack and Hurley because they are the only two that Jacob/the Island attempted to communicate with and perhaps the only two on Jacobs list that got away.
    • Danny says he can kill sawyer because Shepard is the only one on Jacobs list.
      • Nope. In "I Do" Danny says the exact opposite - "Shepard wasn't on Jacob's list"
    • Dave/Island/Jacob visiting Hurley. Jacobs' cabin appearing to Hurley.
  • The hallucinations represent the Constants that each person gets off the Island needs to hold on to in order to avoid the problems Desmond had when he traveled off the Island. Hurley's constant is Charlie. Jack's is his dad and so on.
    • Because a constant is someone in a person's life that needs to exist in both periods of time during time jumps, it is possible the hallucinations are not constants, but rather the Island's way of drawing the survivors back to the Island through the mental anguish it causes.
  • Back when Keamy and his team were attacking the camp, Sawyer went and found Claire outside of her house on the ground. When she woke up, she called him "Charlie". This is because Claire was in the house at the time of the attack, but Charlie appeared outside. Claire went to go see him and that's when the rocket hit. The idea is that Charlie, be it Smokey, an apparition of the Island or whatever he is, knew of the impending danger and got Claire to come out of the house so she wouldn't be killed. Sort of a guardian angel, if you will. That's why Claire called Sawyer "Charlie" when she woke up, because that was he was the last thing she saw before the explosion, and is what she is referencing to when she says "At least I'm not seeing things anymore".
  • These are not hallucinations at all. These characters who we believe are dead, are really "undead." Undead in the mythology of LOST is someone has been on the Island and has died, but we see them in a different time-line. A number of our favorite characters on the Island are really "undead," having died during their stay on the Island. And this would include Christian, since I think he has been on the Island in the past and has something to do with DHARMA/Hanso/Widmore etc.
    • Ive had a theory that seems to still hold water and related to the "undead". What happens to a dead persons body determines their presence as apparition. EXPOSED bodies (Christian, Yemi, Danielle, Karl, DHARMA Initiative, Goodwin, Charlie(?), i can go on...) are able to move about the Island and communicate. BURIED bodies (everyone who has died since the crash, Nikki, Paulo, marshal, Shannon, Boone, Ana Lucia, Libby, etc...) are trapped under the dirt. Their spirit/soul or whatever is stuck and the cannot appear as an apparition. I hate to think what that might mean for all those bodies in the chunk of the plane they burnt up at the beginning of the show. It seems to me they made a point of making sure everyone who died since the crash got buried (and i think Jack even had a comment about why he felt they should). Maybe someone can clarify an issue for me though. Did Ana Lucia appear to Eko before they buried her? I'm thinking so, and if thats the case, even more backing to my idea. Im going to have to scour the pages and episodes for more things like this.
      • I don't think this theory holds ground because the facts are incorrect. Both Libby and Boone have appeared in apparitions after both were buried. (Libby this season) The Others seemed to have a different ritual for Danny's wife (someone fill in the name) in which, they burn the deceased and then send them out to sea. Do they do that intentionally or is it just a ritualistic tradition? Time will tell.
      • Exposé is the name of a television show that is recurrent in Lost.
      • However, Libby has appeared to Michael recently.
      • Boone also showed up in Locke's vision when he was in the sweat lodge.
        • The producers stated Boone's appearance then was simply part of Locke's dream. See the March 21, 2008 podcast.
      • In Support: The mercenaries from the freighter made a point of burying Danielle and Carl. Weird considering there are a number of ways they could hide the bodies from discovery than spending time digging a hole--why not just throw them off the path? It could be argued that they were worried about losing their element of surprise before attacking the village, but it seemed to me they attacked the village almost immediately with the bodies behind them. Also Locke once said "nothing on this island stays buried". I'm sure there is a "Zombie" theory page someplace on this wiki. A link to it would be helpful here.
  • When we see people who have died, it is not hallucinations. The Island is the gates of the underworld. Cerberus, the smoke monster, is the protector of the underworld. It is not heaven and hell, like in modern religion. But just one place, where all the dead go, no matter what kind of life they led, as in old mythologies. Charles (and possibly Alpert) are some kind of "gods" that live forever, and are battling mortals (Ben) for control of the Island. The whispers, the visions, etc..., are all real, only some people have the ability to see and hear the other side.
  • Most of the dead people who have appeared on the Island have appeared in dreams. The only two I can recal who have appeared in 'real life' are Christian Shepard and Yemi, both of whose bodies are missing - Christian's wasn't in his coffin and has never been found, Yemi's vanished from the plane after it was burnt.

Charlie's Message For Jack (via Hurley)

  • "You're not supposed to raise him, Jack."...
    • ...means exactly as Hurley suggests - it's about Jack raising Aaron.
    • ...means something else. Hurley only asks if he thinks this is about Aaron. But it actually refers to Christian, Jack's father. Jack is not supposed to raise his father from the dead. But it seems that he can't stop doing it.
    • ...means that Jack shouldn't "raise the dead", the dead being his father, Christian Shephard. Thoughts/emotions bring people back from the dead through the power of the Island.

What Miles hears

  • They are the Whispers people hear on the Island. Miles can understand the Whispers perfectly. The Whispers are from the dead. Nobody else is able to comprehend what the whispers are saying, yet Miles has proven that he understands their message. Given Miles' flashbacks with regards to ghost-hunting, the whispers are very likely to be of supernatural origin.
    • It's possible that Miles doesn't talk to the dead at all. Rather he is talking to the living at another point in time (which fits with the theme of relative time vs. supernatural).
  • The whispers in this episode are not the whispers that the survivors can hear on the Island. They are what Miles only can hear, whether on the Island or off the Island.
    • In support: Sawyer and Claire don't seem to have heard anything.
    • In support: Miles have been seen speaking to the dead before.
  • Me thinks one of the whispers said "Walt"
  • Right before Miles asks who Karl and Danielle are, it appears that he heard the sound of the bullets that killed the two. He also seemed to hear everything that was heard when the attack on Alex, Karl, and Danielle occurred. Possibly meaning that he can see individual's deaths or maybe he can only hear what the deceased heard.
    • Or perhaps Miles has none of the above abilities, and simply wants to give the impression that he does. He knows exactly who Karl and Danielle are because he was there when they were shot.
    • Miles was not there when they were shot because he was still being held captive by Locke at the barracks.
      • There is no way to verify this, Keamy and his men easily could have released Miles before killing Alex and Karl.
        • No, Miles was inside the barracked area protected by the wall which was turned off only after Alex and Karl were killed.
          • No, the wall was turned off before Alex was killed because it was Alex who turned it off. But it is true that Miles was never with Keamy's team because he was imprisoned until they got into the Barracks and told him to deliver the walkie to Ben.

Miles Staring at Claire

  • This was the first time we saw Miles wearing his hood over his head and it made him look like Charlie.
    • He was talking to Charlie's ghost or picking up on Charlie's influence somehow.
      • From what we saw so far, he needs to be close to the body/place of death in order to talk to a ghost.
        • Sorry to repeat, but we don't know he speaks to "ghosts". He may communicate across time, like Daniel's rat who solved the problem before she learned it.
  • He was worried about her and Aaron because he knew what was going to happen soon.
  • Claire's father was hanging around her and Aaron, and this got Miles attention. Sawyer misinterpreted Miles' interest in Claire.
    • Claire currently has no close male associate. It's entirely possible that Miles was on the prowl.
  • Miles can sense that there is something strange about Aaron (something that makes it dangerous for him to be raised by anyone else). He was really looking at Aaron, and he even asks Claire if he can hold her baby while she walks.
  • There's some sort of link between babies/infants and the Miles' abilities. He wanted contact with Aaron to find out more about Claire or an event that Aaron has been witness to.
  • He was staring at her because she was about to breast-feed Aaron. She was seated far away for privacy. Sawyer yelled at him for being a pervert.

Alice In Wonderland Excerpt

  • Jack read to Aaron this quote from Alice In Wonderland: Alice took up the fan and gloves, and, as the hall was very hot, she kept fanning herself all the time she went on talking: "Dear, dear! How queer everything is today! And yesterday things went on just as usual. I wonder if I've been changed in the night? Let me think: was I the same when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I'm not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I? Ah, that's the great puzzle!" All the survivors of the original plane crash were there to course-correct. The Oceanic 6 were the only survivors post-island because of their need to carry out those courses off the Island. The Oceanic 6 are wondering "Who in the world am I" just like the book reference.
  • The line reminded me of a scene in The Matrix: Revolutions when Bane, possessed/controlled by Agent Smith, says "But if I'm not me, then who am I?" The Matrix was obviously referring to that passage because of the many Alice in Wonderland references. Bane implying that he is someone other than he appears to be may also be the case with Jack. He's done something awful or is in some way different from before (before the Island probably).

Why does Jack get sick

  • The "Island" does not cure all illnesses, cancer can easily be cured and healing from gunshot wounds can be sped up, but Appendicitis and many other medical issues are simply not curable or may already be too prolific to be cured.
  • The Island/Jacob only bestows its healing properties to those who deserve them (such as Locke, and Rose, but not the marshal or Ben). Jack is getting sick because he has done something wrong recently: possibly, getting in touch with the freighter, and the Island has stopped protecting him.
  • The Island is trying to keep Jack. It brought him there, didn't it?
  • For the same reason Ben got his spinal tumour: Losing faith in the Island's healing power.
    • Ben found out about his tumour by the time he had learnt about Juliet and Goodwin. Jack has gotten sick after Kate had a thing with Sawyer. Perhaps both Ben and Jack felt sick because they both became hopeless, or lost faith.
      • Rose had faith that Bernard had not died, and Locke had faith that he could go on a safari. They remained optimistic and strong in the face of adversity. That's why they healed: it was their inner strength.
  • Because the Island's powers don't work on every single one (just like the healing powers in Australia didnt work on Rose).
  • The Island's (or Jacob's) powers may be failing. Dead people are coming back and walking around. The whispers seem to be occuring more often and now Ben and Jack have got sick.
  • Is it coincidence that both Jack and Ben, both leaders, got sick?

The Appendix Surgery

  • Juliet asked Kate to leave in such a fury because she needed Kate to be out of the tent so that she could implant a tracking device into Jack's torso. This could be further cemented by theorizing that Jack really wanted Kate in the tent because he didn't trust Juliet, and wanted to be awake to ensure that such a device would NOT be implanted. Because c'mon, Juliet still works for Ben.
    • Jack wanted Kate in the tent to hold the mirror. Jack has control issues and he can't even give up control when he needs to. Most of Jack's character arc in this episode deals with his control issues, and his realization that he is losing control. This is most pronounced in the FF.
    • Possibly, however Bernard was still in the tent.
    • Jack couldn't stand the anguish in Kate's eyes upon her seeing him cut open, and he himself was starting to falter because of this. Juliet recognized that her patient was becoming emotional, and as hard as it was for her to admit this (she has feelings for Jack, too), she did, and demanded Kate leave for the good of her patient.
    • Bernard has an alignment with Juliet and The Others - and with Ben. He's worked for DHARMA before and is still working for them as a "double-agent". This is why he knows Morse Code and why he's so wary of the Freighties, just like Ben is.MWood919 01:56, 8 May 2008 (PDT)
  • This is foreshadowing of the scene in the FF:
    • on-Island: Jack trusts Kate (he wants her in the tent) but she lets him down (doesn't stop Bernard from knocking Jack out)
    • in FF: Jack trusts Kate (chooses her over Juliet; as a love partner) but she lets him down (does things for Sawyer)

Food Poisoning

  • Jack did not need to have his appendix removed and he actually was suffering from food poisoning that was planted by Ben via Juliet. Juliet had no intention of letting Jack stay awake because if he actually saw his appendix he would know immediately that it was not inflamed. Prior to the procedure, Juliet suggested strongly to Bernard that he administer chloroform to Jack at the first opportunity (and planted the notion of noble reasons for violating Jacks wishes).
    • This is pretty crazy. When Juliet pushed on Jack's stomach to test his appendix, it hurt like hell. Jack seemed pretty sure it was his appendix too and was simply lying about it.
    • What is the point of chloroforming Jack? To take out a healthy appendix? To implant a tracking device? Bernard is right there watching the surgery.
      • Maybe I misunderstood what happened in the episode...I thought it was chloroform that Bernard used to knock Jack out in the episode, it could have been ether or some other form of inhaled anesthetic. (It is worth mentioning that I only said chloroform because that is what is stated on the main article page "Bernard places a chloroform rag over Jack's mouth and he passes out." Other inhaled anesthetics might have been used)
      • Bernard may not be an MD, but, as a dentist, he would know enough about procedures to recognize that something was being placed into an incision.--Gaarmyvet 14:46, 6 May 2008 (PDT)
  • No thats crazy, how could Juliet have done the procedure and implant some sort of tracking device in Jack when Bernard stood right next to her the whole time. And theres no chance she could have let Bernard go for a break or something, you CAN'T proceed a surgery on your own. She needed him. Theres no good fact that can back up that theory, in my point of view.
    • Fact: Though inducing the symptoms of appendicitis is not easy, it is possible to do so by causing any type of trauma to the appendix, and certain intestinal parasites can cause achieve this; though an inflamed appendix is indeed a medical emergency and an appendectomy is the standard course of treatment due to the result of a ruptured appendix is almost certain death-if the cause of the symptoms are known and can be removed, the symptoms will go away and the appendix does not need to be removed. Fact: Bernard was assisting Juliet during the procedure; to effectively assist a surgeon it is in the best interest of all involved for the surgeon to discuss the procedure and any anticipated scenarios with the assistant. Fact: Bernard is a Jack loyalist, and it can be assumed that he would respect Jack's wishes to stay awake because of his loyalty to Jack and Rose's belief in the power of the Island; Bernard administered the chloroform (or whatever anesthetic he administered) without hesitation. Fact: Ben manipulates situations through carefully suggesting information; Juliet has been employed by Ben for three years and has observed his methodology. Opinion: This entire event reeks of Ben Linus's handiwork.
    • Bernard has an alignment with Juliet and The Others - and with Ben. He's worked for DHARMA before and is still working for them as a "double-agent". This is why he knows Morse Code and why he's so wary of the Freighties, just like Ben is.MWood919 01:58, 8 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Bernard used chloroform because the operation was obviously causing Jack lots of pain and they needed him to keep still - it was the most humane thing to do.
  • The Others had plenty of oportunity to implant Jack when he was knocked out from the drugs they gave him taking him to the Hydra.

Keamy's team

  • Their losses may be worse than it appears: Omar (the one carried by two other team members) may be dead, & the rest are badly wounded & can barely walk themselves. However, either due to personal loyalty, or previous orders, no one is left behind on the Island.
    • I don't think their losses are that great, it seems they came with the chopper so there couldn't have been too many in the first place.
      • Including Frank, there were six of them in this episode. Before the chopper could only carry four, so this suggests that there were probably at least two trips, perhaps more.
        • The chopper could only hold four because Lapidus was worried about the weight and the amount of gas he had left to get back to the freighter.
  • Or one of the team members may have been killed, & the smoke monster has assumed the shape of the dead person in order to get onto the freighter to wreak further damage.
    • The smoke monster did appear on the freighter to Michael as Libby in the episode "Meet Kevin Johnson", so it doesn't need to "get onto" the freighter in form of a dead mercenary if it wants to.
      • Libby could have simply been a hallucination.
        • Wait, didn't Libby appear to Michael in a hospital in NYC?
        • There are too many people having visions of different, usually dead people in this series, and nothing implies that the appearance of Libby on the freighter wasn't "real". On the other hand, FFs confirm that visions do appear in places other than the Island, and nothing implies that the freighter is different.
  • Just because we've seen the smoke monster kill in the past doesn't mean it went after Keamy's team with intent to kill. Ben said he doesn't know what the Monster is, doesn't mean he cant send it to a certain place to intervene.
    • Ben (in a way) admitted that he in fact does know what the Monster is when confronted by Locke.
  • An idea that needs investigation by someone with a working knowledge in fluid mechanics: how would firing a number of projectiles into "Smokey" affect his ability to move/act? IIRC, we haven't seen how the Monster behaves if someone fires a bullet into it, let alone several armed men emptying clips from automatic weapons. Firing several dozen projectiles into a dynamic flow would disrupt it -- for example, changing its viscosity, much as in an oobleck -- at least momentarily.
    • The trooper we saw shot at the Monster. It did not seem fazed in the least.
  • Keamy's team could have escaped by activating the fence.
    • They were nowhere near the fence when they were attacked, nor did they necessarily have the code to activate, which is probably not the same as the one to deactivate.
      • If the controlpanel is open you don't need a code to activate the fence again.
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