For the mobisode, see Room 23 (mobisode).

Room 23 is a locked room in a facility within the Hydra compound where Karl and Walt were held by the Others, and Karl was subjected to a brainwashing video. In 2007, Charles Widmore held Jin-Soo Kwon captive in the room. The DHARMA Initiative originally used the room to trigger amnesia in the Hostiles after interrogating them, so as not to violate the Truce. ("The New Man in Charge") After The Purge, however, it was co-opted by the Others. (Access: Granted) The facility bears the Hydra logo, although it appears to be separated from the rest of the Hydra station. Room 23 is located at the end of a hall. The door next to it leads outside. Behind it is a stairwell because the terrain is lower at the backside of the building than at the front side.



Behind Room 23

Walt was held at Room 23 by the Others some point after they took him off the raft. According to Ben, Jacob wanted Walt there because he was important and special. However, Walt posed a greater threat to the Others than they expected, as he had been doing something unspecified in the room that frightened them so that they would not go in to see him. Ben responded to a particular situation with a blaring alarm and people in commotion, where Juliet suggested that Ben take responsibility and bring Walt back to his father. Ben refused, and Juliet took him outside to show what Walt had done: a group of dead birds were lying on the stairwell beneath a boarded up window. ("Room 23")

Walt later told Michael that the Others made him take tests, after which Beatrice Klugh became agitated and threatened to put Walt in the room again. Walt instantly froze up at the mention of this. ("Three Minutes")

The dead birds behind Room 23. ("Room 23")


Karl was subjected to brainwashing inside Room 23 by being forced to watch a video, strapped to a chair, while extremely loud drum-and-bass music was played. Alex, Kate, and Sawyer found him with an IV in his arm and wearing LED goggles. When he was freed, Karl was not fully conscious and had to be carried out by Sawyer. The video Karl was subjected to contained various quick cuts of images and text, as well as a reference to Jacob and short glimpses of Gerald DeGroot and Alvar Hanso. At the time, the facility that housed Room 23 was guarded by Aldo. ("Not in Portland")


Zoe shows Jin a DHARMA map she wants explained.

In 2007, Jin was held captive in Room 23 by Charles Widmore and his team. He awoke inside the room and began flipping various switches. One switch triggered the projection of the brainwash video. Jaunted, Jin quickly stopped it. Zoe came inside and explained him that the DHARMA Initiative used the video to conduct experiments on subliminal messaging. ("The Package")

Video description

The following are descriptions taken from various times the video was shown as seen by Walt, Karl, and most recently Jin.

10 high by 10 wide octagonal matrix of alternating image squares, with 3 squares missing from each corner

"Plant a good seed and you will joyfully gather fruit" superimposed on

  • a yellow flower
  • a pink flower
  • an orange flower

magenta and blue plaid morphing patterns

"EVERYTHING CHANGES" superimposed on:

  • eight various antique coins
  • a 1921 silver dollar
  • a wax cylinder on top of a scattered pile of 4 CDs
  • a wood-burning stove
  • a thick pipe with a wheel valve
  • a drafting compass
  • three electronic piano keyboards
  • a telegraph
  • a close up of a computer keyboard

10x10 octagonal image matrix with the two central horizontal and vertical rows being two cells combined and the central four cells being combined. The images change in symmetrical patterns and include:

  • a bright white light shining into a dark cave
  • a Sailboat on water in silhouette in front of a setting sun
  • fireworks exploding in sequence
  • an obstetric ultrasound

a sequence of close ups of doll's faces:

  • left side rotated 90° clockwise
  • right side rotated 90° clockwise (three images)
  • center of face rotated 75° clockwise

a statue of Buddha

close-up of a high contrast painting: a face focusing on the eyes and nose

magenta and blue plaid morphing patterns

a video clip of the Earth's moon as it changes from half-full to full

"We are the causes of our own suffering" superimposed on

  • a sequence of about 6 various stills of black-and-white insects
  • a sequence of about 5 various stills of orange fish

an energy-saver lightbulb curves to resemble a yin-yang symbol

a 3/4 full moon

a bird's nest

a necklace ornament resembling an eye (from Turkish mythology; see Nazar)

a speedometer from a 1992 or 1993 Honda Accord with the needle at zero.

close-up of gears, probably from a watch

a pasta dish; possibly linguine with spinach


"God loves you as He loved Jacob" superimposed on yellow carpeted stairs

magenta and blue plaid morphing patterns

a changing white squiggle (possibly a lightbulb filament) pattern superimposed on:

  • the inside of a factory or similar facility with many pipes (sequence of three different stills)
  • close-up of stone wall
  • close-up of African wooden mask
  • Alvar Hanso in window

"THINK ABOUT" and then "YOUR LIFE" in bold white letters superimposed on a black background morphing into a octagonal matrix of symmetrical image squares that include:

  • a bee
  • a mask or face statue art
  • a black object with a round bottom and three prongs at the top

partially obscured text: "----ER" and "---Y" and "---THE" superimposed on:

Image notes

Image Notes
3x07 Brainwash Dhammapada.jpg
  • Sawyer enters the room and sees a quote from "Dhammapada"
  • the Moon as seen in the video
  • "We are the causes of our own suffering"
  • magenta and blue plaid morphing patterns.
  • a disturbing image of a doll's face, focusing on the eye
  • "Everything changes".
3x07 Brainwash Video Octagonal Image Matrix.jpg
  • 10x10 Octagonal image matrix.
  • "God loves you as He loved Jacob".
  • the inside of a factory or similar facility with many pipes (Possibly film equipment rotated 90 degrees)
  • close-up of stone wall.
3x07 Brainwash Karl.jpg
  • Karl is forced to watch the brainwashing film.

Click the image to the left to see it larger. It shows a faint outline of the likeness of Gerald DeGroot.

Connection to The Lost Experience

Reversed audio

  • The voice of a woman who sounds like Bea Klugh repeating "Only fools are enslaved by time and space" can be heard multiple times in the reversed version of the brainwashing video. This hidden clue echoes similar words found in a so-called 'Dharma talk' entitled the Buddhist Perspective on Time and Space: [1] "The wise know how to use time and space perfectly; they lead free and harmonious lives. Fools are enslaved by time and space; they are busy running around all day. Wise or foolish, the difference is obvious."
  • The voices in the beginning of the reversed audio may sound similar to foreign language, but is simply the reversed conversation of Alex and Sawyer at the very end. The following sound that may be described as similar to panting is simply Kate repeatedly saying Sawyer's name to get his attention immediately before they carry Karl out of the room.
  • The atrocious noises seem to sound like fireworks in the reversed audio. There is a harsh screeching sound, and as it fades out, it explodes numerous times.

Full-length video

The official full-length video was released on the Season 3 DVD as an Easter egg. It is presented in widescreen.

Full-Length Video



Cultural references


  • 1984 - George Orwell's novel 1984 depicts Room 101, a torture chamber in the Ministry of Love wherein prisoners are subjected to some manifestation of their greatest fears.

Movies and TV

  • A Clockwork Orange - The video from Room 23 is an reference to the Ludovico technique, a fictitious type of aversion conditioning used in A Clockwork Orange. With this technique, the subject is medicated with a pro-nauseate drug and forced to watch a movie with disturbing images and loud music, thereby associating violent ideas with the sensation of being ill. Additionally, Alex's room number in the prison where he is held before being removed for the Ludovico Technique is 23.
  • How to Operate Your Brain - The video from Room 23 is very similar to this 1994 Timothy Leary video that attempts to educate and overwhelm the mind with constant flashing images, colors and messages over spoken narration and loud electronic music. Timothy Leary was the real Richard Alpert's research partner in the Harvard Psilocybin Project during the early 1960s. [3]
  • The Prisoner - It is also a reference to the episode "A Change of Mind" in the cult 1960's TV series, The Prisoner, which featured the 'aversion room', with similar brain washing room features. [4]
    • The film in room 23 even seems to use the typeface "Albertus", which is similar to the iconic font used on The Prisoner.
  • Star Wars - Besides 23 being a reference to one of the Numbers, It is possibly also an allusion to cell block AA23, where Princess Leia was held in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope. This reference furthers the analogy of Sawyer's explicit reference to "the ol' Wookiee prisoner trick", which is used in Star Wars to rescue Leia.

Religion and ideologies

  • The Bible - The "God loves you as He loved Jacob" slide is a reference to Malachi 1:2-3 and Romans 9:13. Paul quotes Malachi in Romans to show that God chose to bless Jacob and his descendants and to curse Esau and his descendants. The blessings/cursings were not based on the two brothers' righteousness or sins, but rather on God's prerogative.
    • Esau gave up his birthright to Jacob.
  • Buddhism - "Plant a good seed and you will joyfully gather fruit" is a quote from the Buddhist text Dhammapada: "The kind of seed sown / will produce that kind of fruit. / Those who do good will reap good results. /Those who do evil will reap evil results. / If you carefully plant a good seed, / You will joyfully gather good fruit."
  • "We are the causes of our own suffering" and "THINK ABOUT YOUR LIFE" are similar to Buddhist references to the Four Noble Truths.
  • The caption "Everything Changes" is similar to a Buddhist sutra that states, "Everything changes, everything appears and disappears; but there is perfect tranquility when one transcends both birth and extinction."