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Kris White: Sawyer makes a mixtape, Mikhail helps Naomi catch her breath, and Jin becomes a daddy. We'll have the straight scoop on all that and more in today's official Lost podcast hosted by ABC.com.

[opening Lost theme]

Kris White: Welcome back to the podcast in support of our next episode, "The Brig," in which we finally get back to Locke and his wayward father, Anthony Cooper. That episode airs Wednesday, May 2nd, from ten to eleven p.m. Executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are here with us again to recap last week's episode, "D.O.C." And of course they'll also be taking your fan questions. Although if they answer them? That's another story. Here now is your pod squad.

[podcast theme]

[Damon and Carlton talk in a low monotone]

Carlton Cuse: Hey, I'm Carlton Cuse.

Damon Lindelof: And I'm Damon Lindelof.

Carlton Cuse: Thanks for coming to our podcast.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah.

Carlton Cuse: Really, we appreciate it.

Damon Lindelof: They're awesome.

Carlton Cuse: Thanks a lot, really kind of you.

[They start talking normally again]

Carlton Cuse: Uh, hey! Hi Damon!

Damon Lindelof: Hurray!

Carlton Cuse: We're gonna rehash "D.O.C." today, and we're gonna talk about "The Brig." And we're gonna answer some questions, and it's gonna be a heck of a podcast.

Damon Lindelof: That was like a very radical change in sort of demeanor. We were very down there, and then...

Carlton Cuse: Now we're back.

Damon Lindelof: We fancy ourselves actors of sorts.

Carlton Cuse: Exactly. What range--

Damon Lindelof: I'm really excited about ???

Carlton Cuse: --what Brando-esque qualities you possess.

Damon Lindelof: That I'm crazy and eat bugs on occasion?

Carlton Cuse: Do you have your own island in Tahiti?

Damon Lindelof: I don't know. Do I?

Carlton Cuse: You might.

Damon Lindelof: Speaking of islands...

Carlton Cuse: Speaking of islands...

Damon Lindelof: Let's talk about "D.O.C." Carlton--

Carlton Cuse: Okay.

Damon Lindelof: --which is last week's episode of Lost. We found out--

Carlton Cuse: Date of conception.

Damon Lindelof: --the date of conception. And it actually turns out that Jin is the father.

Carlton Cuse: Jin is a lucky man.

Damon Lindelof: Yes. The bad news of course though is--

Carlton Cuse: Isn't it crazy how much sperm you have on that island?

Damon Lindelof: Five times the normal amount.

Carlton Cuse: Wow.

Damon Lindelof: Not me.

Carlton Cuse: That might be the most important salient fact we've learned in three seasons on the show. Isn't it really?

Damon Lindelof: That you have five times your sperm count?

Carlton Cuse: Yep.

Damon Lindelof: The women do too, which is even freakier.

Carlton Cuse: Wow, that is shocking.

Damon Lindelof: Go Lost.

Carlton Cuse: So, parachute woman.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, that, you know- Look, the reality is it's great that Sun found out that the baby was Jin's, and that's a very relevant piece of information, lovely flashback story--

Carlton Cuse: very lovely

Damon Lindelof: You know the whole sort of circuit is complete. Now we realize that Sun is responsible for having Jin get promoted, and so when she gets mad at him later with the blood on his hands and all that, she's sort of indirectly responsible. But she did it all because she loved him, wanted to protect him from shame.

Carlton Cuse: I think she's pretty directly responsible. I mean she took that money, and her dad said, "Now I own him." And that was pretty much the cost and consequences of paying that bribery.

Damon Lindelof: Right, but if she hadn't taken the money, like the information would have gotten out, and then Jin would have been embarrassed. So it's kind of a lose-lose situation.

Carlton Cuse: It was. She kind of picked the best choice (???)

Damon Lindelof: But that's not really what everyone is talking about, Carlton. What everyone is talking about is what this parachute woman said to Hurley at the end of the episode.

Carlton Cuse: Yes. You mean Naomi.

Damon Lindelof: Yes, I do mean Naomi. You heard it here first that--

Carlton Cuse: We are confirming

Damon Lindelof: --you will realize in the next episode, "The Brig," which we'll talk about in a minute, that she reveals that her name is Naomi Dorrit.

Carlton Cuse: Dorrit.

Damon Lindelof: Yes.

Carlton Cuse: That sounds- Dorrit sounds very Dickensonian.

Damon Lindelof: Dickensian?

Carlton Cuse: Dickensian. Dickensian, yes, that would be better. What did I say? Good god, that was--

Damon Lindelof: Sounds like a dirty word, whatever it is.

Carlton Cuse: Yes, uh, Dorrit.

Damon Lindelof: Uh, no, the Dickensian...

Carlton Cuse: Oh, okay. Well, Naomi, let's get back to Naomi.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, so she basically says to Hurley, "Wait a minute you guys. It's impossible that you're the survivors of Oceanic 815. They found that plane, and there were no survivors." So what up with that, Carlton?

Carlton Cuse: Does that mean- You know what immediately is gonna happen is people are gonna say, "Those guys were lying."

Damon Lindelof: Yep.

Carlton Cuse: "Carlton and Damon were lying."

Damon Lindelof: Right.

Carlton Cuse: "It really is purgatory."

Damon Lindelof: Yep.

Carlton Cuse: And, you know, how are we gonna respond to that?

Damon Lindelof: We're gonna say we were not lying, and it's not purgatory.

Carlton Cuse: Okay, so if it's not purgatory, let's look at what the other explanations possibly could be.

Damon Lindelof: Break it down for me.

Carlton Cuse: Break it down. One possibility would be that she's lying.

Damon Lindelof: Do you want me to beatbox while you break it down?

Carlton Cuse: Yeah, exactly.

Damon Lindelof: Like Blake on American Idol.

Carlton Cuse: Number one, number one, number one, she's lying.

Damon Lindelof: No, stop, stop. Number one...

Carlton Cuse: She's lying.

Damon Lindelof: She's not telling the truth.

Carlton Cuse: Right. Number two--

Damon Lindelof: That's not very exciting.

Carlton Cuse: Number two, conspiracy theory.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, number two is they actually did find a plane--

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: --with bodies on it.

Carlton Cuse: Somebody put that plane there to throw people off the track.

Damon Lindelof: And they assumed it was Oceanic 815. Who could possibly be responsible for something of that magnitude?

Carlton Cuse: Well, you know, that's a really good question.

Damon Lindelof: Have you ever seen that movie Capricorn One?

Carlton Cuse: Yeah, I have.

Damon Lindelof: Where they like staged the moon landing?

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: Well, if they did that...

Carlton Cuse: I mean what's throwing a piece of plane hull in a trench in the ocean compared to that?

Damon Lindelof: Interesting.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: All right, well, I guess that--

Carlton Cuse: I think that's pretty much all we should say.

Damon Lindelof: That's all we should really say because it's gonna get a little more interesting in the next episode.

Carlton Cuse: Right.

Damon Lindelof: Naomi's gonna expand upon, you know, who she is and what her mission is.

Carlton Cuse: Now what's up with Mikhail? I mean he's back alive apparently.

Damon Lindelof: That's the dude with the eye patch?

Carlton Cuse: Yeah. How come he's not dead?

Damon Lindelof: I guess that the uh... There's a couple of explanations there too. One is maybe that the fence was not turned up high enough--

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: --to actually kill him. Or the second is that, you know, he died and then was brought back to life by the island.

Carlton Cuse: That I wouldn't like.

Damon Lindelof: All right, so then let's go with the first one.

Carlton Cuse: Okay, that sounds good.

Damon Lindelof: Is he gonna explain that for us though, Carlton? Will he explain how he survived?

Carlton Cuse: He probably'll throw a sentence at it.

Damon Lindelof: That's good.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: Maybe in a week or two?

Carlton Cuse: Yeah, that'd be good.

Damon Lindelof: I'll stay tuned for that.

Carlton Cuse: Excellent. All right, that's pretty much everything I want to say about "D.O.C." Shall we talk about "The Brig" a little bit?

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, let's break it down.

Carlton Cuse: Break it down. "The Brig" is a pretty cool episode. We wrote "The Brig." We, uh... Kind of one of those big kind of turning point episodes for us. It answers a lot of questions. Certainly answers one big question which is: where the heck has Locke been?

Damon Lindelof: Yeah. Where has he been?

Carlton Cuse: He's been off with the Others.

Damon Lindelof: Doing what?

Carlton Cuse: Well, that's what we're gonna tell you.

Damon Lindelof: Where have the Others been?

Carlton Cuse: The Others are certainly not in New Otherton anymore. They're on the road.

Damon Lindelof: Are they going somewhere?

Carlton Cuse: They're on their way someplace.

Damon Lindelof: Are we gonna find out where they're on their way to?

Carlton Cuse: Uh, yes.

Damon Lindelof: I'm excited about that.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: So Locke is just kind of hanging out with them.

Carlton Cuse: I think he's trying to get himself inculcated into their community. Is that gonna be successful?

Damon Lindelof: I don't know. Here's what I want to know. When last I saw Locke, he was saying goodbye to Kate, and said he was going with the Others. But something happened obviously between him seeing Cooper in that room and then going and talking to Kate that made him decide, "I'm gonna go with these people." So that's what I want to see. I want to know what happened in the instant that he opened up that door and saw his father sitting there.

Carlton Cuse: Yes.

Damon Lindelof: Like what up with that? Like where did Cooper come from?

Carlton Cuse: Well, you've got kind of a whole rapper thing today. You kind of want to be a rapper today. Do you have a rapper name?

Damon Lindelof: I don't have a rapper name, and there's a very good reason for that.

Carlton Cuse: Because you're not a rapper.

Damon Lindelof: Yes.

Carlton Cuse: Okay.

Damon Lindelof: Because I have no rap skillz, with a z, as they say in the rap community. But in any case, that's neither here nor there. What is here and there is the idea that this guy Cooper, who is Locke's father, who pushed him out of an eight-story window, who stole his kidney, is now in a room on the island, and I want to know why.

Carlton Cuse: For six weeks we've been waiting to find out why!

Damon Lindelof: Are you gonna tell us how he got to the island?

Carlton Cuse: We are. We're gonna tell you everything. Well, no one's gonna believe that we're telling you everything. Everyone will remain frustrated, but we are answering a lot of questions.

Damon Lindelof: Will Cooper tell us how he got to the island?

Carlton Cuse: Yes, he will.

Damon Lindelof: Well that's cool.

Carlton Cuse: That's excellent.

Damon Lindelof: So--

Carlton Cuse: That's enough. I don't think we need to give away the whole dang episode.

Damon Lindelof: All right. I'm just curious.

Carlton Cuse: We'll leave it to their imaginations.

Damon Lindelof: Watch your language with the danging.

Carlton Cuse: Dang, where are my questions.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, it's time for questions!


Carlton Cuse: This is really why people listen to the podcast anyway, for these questions.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, they don't want to hear (???)

Carlton Cuse: And I promise not to laugh uncontrollably today. At least I think I won't.

Damon Lindelof: Okay, why don't you start, Carlton.

Carlton Cuse: Um, okay, uh... "Carlton Cuse and Numbers" by Congested. 2 posts in 90 days. I was watching the episode "Numbers," and I'm pretty sure right after Hurley wins the lotto, Carlton says, 'That's right Mary Jo because this is the 16th week without a winner.' So is it you, Carlton Cuse, or not? It sure sounds like you. I guess if this producing thing doesn't work out, you've got some nice work for your voice acting demo." That was a question from myself actually.

Damon Lindelof: Did you write that letter yourself?

Carlton Cuse: Well I have been kind of congested this week. I have had a little bit of a sinus issue.

Damon Lindelof: I noticed that about you.

Carlton Cuse: Um... Yes, that is me, in fact, it really is.

Damon Lindelof: Wow, this is great. This is a question being asked about an episode from like over two years ago.

Carlton Cuse: Deserves an answer.

Damon Lindelof: And now we are closing the door on that lingering mystery.

Carlton Cuse: Good, well, I wanted to ask and answer that question, and now I have.

Damon Lindelof: It's good to know.

Carlton Cuse: [chuckling] Go ahead and ask yourself a question.

Damon Lindelof: I'd forgotten you had done that.

Carlton Cuse: Okay, no, I'll ask you a question for real this time.

Damon Lindelof: Okay, please.

Carlton Cuse: All right. "Hello Carlton and Damon. I was wondering. It was hinted in Season 2 that Desmond brought down Oceanic 815 because he doesn't push the button. However, the hatch is now gone, and the helicopter met the same fate. Does this mean that something other than the electromagnetic anomaly is crashing stuff on the island? Thanks. Love the show and podcasts."

Damon Lindelof: That's an interesting question because we've seen a couple aircraft now. Obviously the Nigerian plane that had Eko's brother Yemi aboard it and a couple of bad dudes crashed on the island. Rousseau's research vessel crashed on the island.

Carlton Cuse: You got the Black Rock in the middle of the jungle.

Damon Lindelof: Black Rock is in the middle of the jungle. So, you know, the button is not the only method, but I would say that if you are an actual jumbo jet, sort of a 747 or a 777, it might require a little more than sort of the average electromagnetic pulse to bring you down, in fact rip you in half. So I would say that if you are a smaller vessel, like a helicopter or a 19th century slaving vessel with lots of metal on it, you know, you'd need the extra kick, the added punch of a button not getting pushed. That'd be my theory personally.

Carlton Cuse: Hmm, well, I don't know if I like that theory.

Damon Lindelof: Well, planes fly over the island all the time and don't crash there so-

Carlton Cuse: Do they?

Damon Lindelof: Yeah. Well, I would assume, unless it's outside the--

Carlton Cuse: I mean unless the island isn't there.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, unless it's outside the space-time continuum.

Carlton Cuse: In which case, maybe it's faith that brings people to the island.

Damon Lindelof: That's true.

Carlton Cuse: That's another theory. That would be my theory.

Damon Lindelof: That's a really good theory, and probably that would frustrate a lot of people because it's so intangible and tutti frutti.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah, well, I like tutti frutti.

Damon Lindelof: You're wearing a t-shirt that says tutti frutti right now.

Carlton Cuse: I'm (???) we're on camera.

Damon Lindelof: No we're not. There's a camera pointed at us, but I hope we're not on it.

Carlton Cuse: Okay, that's good. So--

Damon Lindelof: All right, can I ask you a question now, Carlton?

Carlton Cuse: Oh, I was gonna ask all the questions today.

Damon Lindelof: I'm want to ask you one. This is a simple one.

Carlton Cuse: If you say that, I know it's not.

Damon Lindelof: Uh...

Carlton Cuse: Okay, I'm ready.

Damon Lindelof: This is from PileOfAtoms. 8 posts in the last 90 days. It's a nice sane number of postings. "Hi guys. First of all, excellent show. Towards the end of the show, when Hurley and Charlie are debating which superhero would win a race, a blue spark appears on Hurley's forehead. What the heck was that all about? PileOfAtoms."

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles]

Damon Lindelof: So Carlton, let's solve this right here and now. I think the audience needs to know what was up with that blue spark on Hurley's forehead.

Carlton Cuse: I think PileOfAtoms, you might have had your medication incorrectly adjusted before your viewing, or you might need to go to Costco and get yourself a new TV.

Damon Lindelof: Or it could be a camera flare of some sort.

Carlton Cuse: Or it could have been a camera flare. Yeah, sometimes there's optical effects that create what are called flares.

Damon Lindelof: Or wait a minute. Maybe Hurley was using his mental powers?

Carlton Cuse: That's true. Does that mean he's special like Walt?

Damon Lindelof: No, I mean he's special in that he can create blue sparks on his forehead, which is a fairly meaningless power but really impressive at parties.

Carlton Cuse: Honestly, we probably spent many many hours in that- It would be a cool party gag, wouldn't it? Like just to be able to put like, "Hey check out it, a blue spark on my forehead."

Damon Lindelof: Maybe a couple weeks ago when you burst into uncontrollable hysterics, you were seeing blue sparks on people's foreheads.

Carlton Cuse: I was. That was actually shortly- You know, I edited that show for a long time. I never saw the blue spark.

Damon Lindelof: I never saw it either, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there.

Carlton Cuse: No, it doesn't. And, you know, we don't mean to discount the fact that you saw a blue spark. We believe you did see a blue spark. We however did not see the blue spark. But that doesn't mean you didn't see it. Okay?

Damon Lindelof: That's a very definitive answer to the question.

Carlton Cuse: I think that's a pretty good answer. Okay, "Post Counts" by ILikeLost12. 150 posts in the last 90 days.

Damon Lindelof: Okay, wow.

Carlton Cuse: Hi Damon and Carlton.

Damon Lindelof: Almost two a day.

Carlton Cuse: In a recent podcast, you were mentioning how people who have 100 plus post counts in the past 90 days have nothing better to do with their lives. I'm not sure if that was a joke or not. But seriously, going on the message boards less than five minutes a day, that is not bad. Also, how would you characterize someone who had 8000 plus posts in the last 90 days?"

Damon Lindelof: Okay, I guess I should answer that question in two parts. How many posts?

Carlton Cuse: 150 posts in 90 days.

Damon Lindelof: If you can do- Well, I guess that is five minutes a day. But are you posting every time you go. That is to say, um, it's just a lot of posts in 90 days.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: It doesn't mean that you don't have anything better to do. Um, I just say...

Carlton Cuse: Why that many posts.

Damon Lindelof: Plant a tree. Water a plant.

Carlton Cuse: Give back to your community.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, exactly. Do something like that. As for the 8000 question, I'll tell you what. If you can generate 8000 posts in 90 days, Carlton will play a very special banjo song for you in next week's podcast. [Carlton chuckles]

Carlton Cuse: Okay, that's true.

Damon Lindelof: I'm throwing the gauntlet down. If you can do 8000 posts in 90 days, and that's not--

Carlton Cuse: I will play a Led Zeppelin tune.

Damon Lindelof: That's fairly doable. It's like 110 posts a day, I guess. When you reach that mark, Carlton will--

Carlton Cuse: I will break my banjo out and do something special for you.

Damon Lindelof: I'm really excited about that. All right, you're up, my friend.

Carlton Cuse: "Damon and Carlton, no, no, it's not a Cosby Show teen pregnancy question, though I suppose it does have some corollary."

Damon Lindelof: [snickers]

Carlton Cuse: "I know you guys have said--"

Damon Lindelof: Uh-oh, wait, how many posts?

Carlton Cuse: 3 posts in 90 days.

Damon Lindelof: Okay.

Carlton Cuse: I'm sorry. By XanderDG, "A very special question on tonight's Lost." This is one I thought you'd like to tackle.

Damon Lindelof: Okay.

Carlton Cuse: It's got some substance to it.

Damon Lindelof: I like to tackle things.

Carlton Cuse: Heh.

Damon Lindelof: Random people on the street.

Carlton Cuse: That's why we get nothing done in the writers' room. "I know you guys have said that the big picture mysteries on Lost will have scientific or pseudoscientific explanations." First of all, did we ever say that?

Damon Lindelof: It sounds like something that we would say--

Carlton Cuse: Ah, we probably--

Damon Lindelof: --under the influence of alcohol.

Carlton Cuse: We probably said that somewhere.

Damon Lindelof: Pseudoscience is a very--

Carlton Cuse: Pseudoscience is good.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah.

Carlton Cuse: Pseudoscience, there's a lot of wiggle room in pseudoscience.

Damon Lindelof: Exactly. Pseudoscience is like where Michael Crichton plays. And it's like, oh there's nanobots and dinosaurs in pseudoscience. And time travel.

Carlton Cuse: That's right.

Damon Lindelof: So, yes--

Carlton Cuse: That's why they call it science fiction.

Damon Lindelof: --there will be nothing in Lost that you would not read in a Michael Crichton novel.

Carlton Cuse: Pseudoscience. "But I'm hoping against hope that some of those will fall into the borderlands of supernatural."

Damon Lindelof: Interesting.

Carlton Cuse: Awesome, that's good. This is going the right way. "Which leads me to my post D.O.C. query." I like the way this guy writes.

Damon Lindelof: I like the phrase "borderlands of supernatural."

Carlton Cuse: I know. And query.

Damon Lindelof: Isn't that the title of your second banjo album?

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles]

Damon Lindelof: "Borderlands of Supernatural." The one where you're standing on the cover--

Carlton Cuse: It's the unfinished album.

Damon Lindelof: --you're holding up your hand like this, and there's little sparks shooting out of your forehead.

Carlton Cuse: I'm waiting for William Shatner to come in and lay down his backing tracks on some of those numbers there.

Damon Lindelof: Your fan community would just refer to it as Borderlands. They're like, "Cuse has never been the same since Borderlands."

Carlton Cuse: You know, I took a year off to do that album.

Damon Lindelof: "Once he started dabbling in that pseudoscience stuff, it was never as cool as when he was on the fringe in the borderlands of the supernatural."

Carlton Cuse: It takes six years of Nash Bridges to come up with all the material on that album.

Damon Lindelof: There should have been some supernatural borderlands on Nash Bridges, having written on it with you.

Carlton Cuse: Query

Damon Lindelof: Yes, post your query.

Carlton Cuse: Back to my query.

Damon Lindelof: Yes.

Carlton Cuse: "Will you at some point revisit the psychic's predictions about Claire's baby and Walt's seeming ability to either manipulate or predict future events? More, do the Others' obsession with children and pregnancy go beyond the apparent inability of women to successfully bear children on the island? Are they interested in, for lack of a better expression, children with special abilities?" Would there be a better expression than "children with special abilities"?

Damon Lindelof: Is that your question or theirs?

Carlton Cuse: That's my question about why- Why doesn't he just say, "why are they interested in children with special abilities"? I mean--

Damon Lindelof: Which is the title of your fourth album.

Carlton Cuse: --what would be the better expression? This is from Alex, although he calls himself XanderDG.

Damon Lindelof: Could be Alexander.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah, but don't you just choose one or the other if you're Alexander? Don't you either go by Xander or Alex?

Damon Lindelof: No, because no one posts under the name from Frank, you know. They all have to have fancy Spamalot or CatWomanRoses or MagicRabbits or OceanicTornado. Who would read a question from Cliff?

Carlton Cuse: You're never gonna answer any of these questions.

Damon Lindelof: I'll answer all those--

Carlton Cuse: (???) tangential (???)

Damon Lindelof: I'll answer all those questions.

Carlton Cuse: Okay

Damon Lindelof: First question was-

Carlton Cuse: Psychic, "revisit the psychic's prediction about Claire's baby and Walt's seeming ability to either predict or manipulate future events."

Damon Lindelof: Yes, we will.

Carlton Cuse: Okay that's good. [quickly] "More, do the Others' obsession with children go beyond the apparent inability of women to successfully bear children on the island?"

Damon Lindelof: Yes.

Carlton Cuse: "Are they interested in, for lack of a better expression, children with special abilities?"

Damon Lindelof: Yes.

Carlton Cuse: Well, we have- Ms. Klugh already sort of showed us that.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah.

Carlton Cuse: She was asking an awful lot of questions that you wouldn't find on your average PSAT test.

Damon Lindelof: I mean, I think they want- that's why the Others targeted Walt. They really went out of their way to get him.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: And I think he was sort of on their radar. There might, in fact, you know, be some hint of that in episodes to come, as far as Walt's abilities. But we haven't seen Michael or Walt all season long.

Carlton Cuse: No, that's really kind of frustrating to me.

Damon Lindelof: Well, welcome to Lost, my friend. Okay, I've got one last question for you, Carlton.

Carlton Cuse: All right.

Damon Lindelof: From MunchAlong. 4 posts in the last 90 days. Bear with me here because it's long involved and well written, but I have to ask it.

Carlton Cuse: Okay.

Damon Lindelof: "To be credible nowadays, you have to have a musical, or at least a musical episode. Lost should be no exception. I'm thinking that the Losties could come across some sort of music hatch, possibly The Banjo?"

Carlton Cuse: [laughs]

Damon Lindelof: "Where the DHARMA guys who are experimenting on how to make people only communicate through song. Once the hatch is opened, out comes this musical virus, making the whole of the island into some kind of sick cabaret. And seeing as no one can lie through song, maybe we'd finally get some good solid answers. Heck, you could even make it into a whole musical season, which would tie in nicely to the zombie season. I don't think I've ever seen a musical featuring the living dead. With a cast of hundreds," Or more about 40, and that's going down pretty fast, "I'm sure the socks could provide some nice chorus numbers. The possibilities are very nearly possibly endless. Songs such as I Don't Know How to Love Jin--"

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles]

Damon Lindelof: "--a tearjerker where Sun ponders about her love for her husband, as well as Locke Be a Lady Tonight--"

Carlton Cuse: [laughs]

Damon Lindelof: "--a showstopper where John ponders his gender would be instant hits. I'm sure other people can come up with many more. So what do you guys think?"

Carlton Cuse: Why is this guy not writing for us on the show?

Damon Lindelof: If it's a guy. It could be a woman, MunchAlong.

Carlton Cuse: Could be a woman.

Damon Lindelof: I will say this, you know, podcast listeners--

Carlton Cuse: You're answering your own question now.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah.

Carlton Cuse: Go ahead.

Damon Lindelof: I think that you should all submit other potential production numbers along the lines of I Don't Know How to Love Jin and Locke Be a Lady Tonight. I think Jin and Juice is actually a better title for a song that I would like to see. But we will write the musical if you can come up with the inspiring song titles.

Carlton Cuse: That's fantastic.

Damon Lindelof: Because it is. You aren't really fronting until you do the musical episode. Buffy did it in their- I think in their sixth season.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah, and Scrubs did one.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, that's right.

Carlton Cuse: I mean pretty much you gotta get one on at some point, and that's a pretty good idea for it, I think too, the magic music hatch.

Damon Lindelof: It's definitely something we'll want to do in the zombie season.

Carlton Cuse: Musicology would be a good thing for the DHARMA guys to be researching.

Damon Lindelof: I absolutely agree with you one hundred percent.

Carlton Cuse: That's awesome. That was fantastic, very creative, and I'm impressed. All right, one last question, and then we're outtie. Okay?

Damon Lindelof: Sure, please.

Carlton Cuse: This is by, uh... AlanL. Uh... 7 posts in 90 days. "Hey Damon and Carlton. I have two questions for you. I recently started listening to your podcasts, so entertaining by the way." Thank you. "Can you two answer a question by saying that there were nine factions of the Others? I was wondering if the nine factions had anything to do with the different DHARMA stations? Assuming that there are nine different stations. My second question has to do with the statue of the foot. Is it in any way an allusion to the poem Ozymandias by Percy Shelley? Thanks for everything, and keep it up with the wicked bad podcasts."

Damon Lindelof: Sweet. Um, as for the...

Carlton Cuse: Nine factions of the Others.

Damon Lindelof: The factions, I think we were joking.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah. There really aren't nine factions.

Damon Lindelof: There's like two factions.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: And that's gonna become very apparent in the coming weeks.

Carlton Cuse: Right.

Damon Lindelof: Who's in what faction. I like that word, faction.

Carlton Cuse: And they're not related to the DHARMA stations.s

Damon Lindelof: No. No concordance whatsoever. And the second question about Ozymandias, I'm not familiar with the poem, but I am familiar with the comic book Watchmen, and the main character of Ozymandias is the big bad guy in that. But if you haven't read the Watchmen, I just spoiled it for you.

Carlton Cuse: Uh-oh. God.

Damon Lindelof: But if you haven't read the Watchmen, then you don't care about the Watchmen.

Carlton Cuse: Right.

Damon Lindelof: So shame on you. But in any case, I will now read that poem and answer the question in the following podcast. But it would be cool if it did have something to do with the four-toed statue, and we didn't realize it at the time.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah. Are we gonna get back to the four-toed statue anytime soon?

Damon Lindelof: What do you mean by soon?

Carlton Cuse: Uh, before the show ends.

Damon Lindelof: Yes.

Carlton Cuse: Good, okay. All right guys, well that's pretty much all I've got for today. (???) Damon. That's it.

Damon Lindelof: This podcast never really got any better than when we first signed on--

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles]

Damon Lindelof: --in that sort of humdrum fashion. I mean sometimes you're knocking them out of the park, and other times you're just reading questions to each other.

Carlton Cuse: You know what, it's all part of the continuum, and you can't have highs without lows.

Damon Lindelof: We sure can't.

Carlton Cuse: So I hope you enjoyed this low from us.

Damon Lindelof: I'm gonna go listen to Borderlands and have a cocktail. That always cheers me up.

Carlton Cuse: Okay, that's good.

Damon Lindelof: All right.

Carlton Cuse: I'm gonna go read The Road because that's a pretty funny book.

Damon Lindelof: Oh yeah, that's a real joyful one.

Carlton Cuse: All right, thanks guys.

Damon Lindelof: Bye Carlton.

Carlton Cuse: Bye Damon. We'll see you next week.

Kris White: That's it for now. Join us again next podcast for more fan questions and a rehash of "The Brig." And don't forget to submit your own fan questions at our website, lost.abc.com. "The Brig" airs Wednesday May 2, from 10 to 11 pm, only on ABC.

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