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*'''Yes''' - (see rationale) --{{User:Santa/sig}} 21:38, 22 December 2006 (PST)
 
*'''Yes''' - (see rationale) --{{User:Santa/sig}} 21:38, 22 December 2006 (PST)
 
:*'''No''' - I think it's too listy for AOTW. If we had a section on what the songs meant (symbolically), then that would make the article much better. -- {{User:Lost_Soul/sig}} 00:21, 23 December 2006 (PST)
 
:*'''No''' - I think it's too listy for AOTW. If we had a section on what the songs meant (symbolically), then that would make the article much better. -- {{User:Lost_Soul/sig}} 00:21, 23 December 2006 (PST)
:*'''Not yet''' I agree with Lost Soul. Unlike the content of some list articles that were previously featured, such as [[Automobiles]], most of the songs featured in the show were selected for a reason, and often hold a symbolic significance to the events where they are employed. However, the article remains of good potential, but still needs work to relate it more to the storyline. Please see my explanation above at A-Missions for further details--{{User:Nomad/sig}} 01:01, 23 December 2006 (PST)
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:*<s>'''Not yet'''</s> I agree with Lost Soul. Unlike the content of some list articles that were previously featured, such as [[Automobiles]], most of the songs featured in the show were selected for a reason, and often hold a symbolic significance to the events where they are employed. However, the article remains of good potential, but still needs work to relate it more to the storyline. Please see my explanation above at A-Missions for further details--{{User:Nomad/sig}} 01:01, 23 December 2006 (PST)
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::*'''Yes''' Based on the recent evidence of the obvious failure to apply the above suggestions without ending up speculating most of the relations, I change my vote to Yes, given that I believe now that this article currently makes a good AOTW. --{{User:Nomad/sig}} 15:47, 20 January 2007 (PST)
 
:*Rebuttal - There is no intention in this article to relate to the storyline. It is simply the best resource on this topic on the entirety of the Internet. It is indeed a list, and is so in-depth it is a list of lists of different subtopics. It deserves to be highlighted as one of Lostpedia's gems. If there is to be an analysis with regard to storyline, it belongs in a separate analysis article, not this one. --{{User:Santa/sig}} 13:20, 23 December 2006 (PST)
 
:*Rebuttal - There is no intention in this article to relate to the storyline. It is simply the best resource on this topic on the entirety of the Internet. It is indeed a list, and is so in-depth it is a list of lists of different subtopics. It deserves to be highlighted as one of Lostpedia's gems. If there is to be an analysis with regard to storyline, it belongs in a separate analysis article, not this one. --{{User:Santa/sig}} 13:20, 23 December 2006 (PST)
 
*Okay, I've added a "symbolism" column for this article. However, I am a bit uncomfortable adding this in, as it smacks of theory, which belongs on a subpage. This might be marginally ok for an analytical article, but this article is not: in other words the rest of the table in the article is fact, whereas the symbolism is speculation by the editors. For example what is the symbolism of [[Make Your Own Kind of Music]]? Is it that 1) Desmond lives alone by his own rules, or 2) The Island makes your thoughts come true a la Crichton's Sphere ([[Psychic Projection (theory)]]), or 3) it just dates the equipment to the 70s? Your thoughts? --{{User:Santa/sig}} 02:35, 20 January 2007 (PST)
 
*Okay, I've added a "symbolism" column for this article. However, I am a bit uncomfortable adding this in, as it smacks of theory, which belongs on a subpage. This might be marginally ok for an analytical article, but this article is not: in other words the rest of the table in the article is fact, whereas the symbolism is speculation by the editors. For example what is the symbolism of [[Make Your Own Kind of Music]]? Is it that 1) Desmond lives alone by his own rules, or 2) The Island makes your thoughts come true a la Crichton's Sphere ([[Psychic Projection (theory)]]), or 3) it just dates the equipment to the 70s? Your thoughts? --{{User:Santa/sig}} 02:35, 20 January 2007 (PST)

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Nominations

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Article Name (linked format)

  • Nominated by: Jabrwocky7
  • Initial comments regarding the nomination go here. This is where you should make your case regarding the nomination.
    • Yes: I think this is a worthy article for the article of the week. --Jabrwocky7 12:42, 11 July 2006 (PDT)
    • No: This article needs some work before it can be seriously considered. --Jabrwocky7 12:42, 11 July 2006 (PDT)


A-Missions

  • Nominated by: --Blueeagleislander 18:09, 6 December 2006 (PST)
  • Easy to read, fun, plenty of pictures, interesting and one of our best lists here. --Blueeagleislander 18:09, 6 December 2006 (PST)
  • Yes: A very simple but effective article. --   Dee4leeds  talk  contribs  all  06:14, 9 December 2006 (PST)
  • No: 'Nuff Said. no writing in the article. the a-mission concept is kinda flimsy to begin with and it just lists pretty much everytime jack, kate, locke, or sawyer ever go out of camp. so, NO. ---Slyce23---
  • Abstain: I really like this article cause its quite quirky, but I agree there isn't much brilliant content --Nickb123 (Talk) 04:14, 16 December 2006 (PST)
  • Yes - A very novel way of looking at Lost's storyline, as well as episode structure with respect to who gets a flashback. I got hooked by the article and made some basic structural edits, and although it could use more editors making it better (AAA anyone?), I think it already deserves recommendation. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  02:58, 19 December 2006 (PST)
  • No: Although this article is a nice list of some of the more prominent Losties' actions, that is really all the article remains--a list. There's not very much in terms of prose, analysis, research, or anything else that you'd see in most featured articles. -PsychoYoshi 21:07, 22 December 2006 (PST)
    • In rebuttal, 1) list articles have been featured before, 2) You mention prose, analysis, and research, but actually NO storyline article has ever been featured as AOTW; 3) The concept of the article IS the analysis and research, as explained above. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  21:25, 22 December 2006 (PST)
  • Not yet: Although the article makes a great list of entires to the storyline's most interesting plots, its current structure, solely depending on short bullets describing the Mission, its Outcome & Discoveries, makes it a bit like a list of scores for a group of football matches. To solve this, I suggest the following:
  • Providing a short but descriptive analysis of the background and significance of each mission, pointing out its contribution in the development of the Storyline.
  • Providing simple outlines for the significance and the affect of the mission on the main characters involved. See the under development Rivalries, for a List article that can yet be more related to both storyline and the involved characters.
-- 00:56, 23 December 2006 (PST)
  • Yes I also had fun reading it and it's definably a good list Bettyfizzw 19:31, 30 December 2006 (PST)
  • Yes It's one of our best lists --Mr. Crabby 09:30, 31 December 2006 (PST)

Rivalries

  • Nominated by: Marik7772003 06:52, 17 December 2006 (PST)
  • Rationale: I believe that this is a very good article. It is very pretty, illustrated with pictures and such. The table also looks very nice.
Con3
  • Possible sample text: Drop 42 allegorical characters on a deserted island with little hope of rescue and limited resources, and you've got a recipe for conflict. Throw in a few love triangles and a box of guns, and you can count on some deep seated feuds. Take a look at some of the rivalries on Lost, some that are incredibly potent, and some that are, well, out there... (Read More)
No. Interesting article with lots of potential, but not quite ready to be featured.
  • Language is too informal and imprecise; e.g., "alleghorical characters." It hasn't been established that LOST is an alleghory.
  • There's some misplaced humor, such as "Stealing kidneys may disqualify him from the "Father of the Year" award," which is against this guideline.
  • Rivalry implies competition, which is a special sort of conflict involving a common object of desire. Jack and Sawyer seem to be rivals for Kate's attention; Jack, Sawyer, Locke and Sayid could be considered rivals for leadership of the survivors. The article doesn't adequately cover these rivalries, but it does cover a number of conflicts that aren't rivalries. As written, the article is more appropriately titled, "Character conflicts." As such, it is almost comprehensive, but it does miss some conflicts, such as the important, complex one between Jack and Kate.
  • The format of the article is strange. It consists of a table and a gallery, with no lead section or any other text.
  • In summary, I think this article needs to be reconceptualized either as rivalries or conflicts, then discussion added, the gallery incorporated with the table, and the chosen subject covered more comprehensively. Rennerboy 11:24, 17 December 2006 (PST)
No: Too informal, Would be a good candidate for Article Attack though. --   Dee4leeds  talk  contribs  all  10:34, 18 December 2006 (PST)
  • It is an honor just to be nominated! Seriously, I do know the article needs some work, and it is a melange of feuds, rivalries and conflicts (rather than the strictly-physical Fights article). I don't personally have time to "attack" it myself, but I'd appreciate any work done to improve it while still keeping the original concept: to track the emotional/philosophical/psychological battles between the characters. --Amberjet11 10:30, 19 December 2006 (PST)
  • I think the article has a lot of potential, so I reworked it using some of the above suggestions. It probably needs a little help, but see if that works any better. -BearDog 13:08, 19 December 2006 (PST)
  • Comment: I've only glanced, but personally don't see a problem with this article, and agree with beardog that it has a lot of potential to be a really great AOTW worthy page. I'll follow what you guys say, but I hope it gets re-nominated soon cause I really like it --Nickb123 (Talk) 15:15, 22 December 2006 (PST)
  • Agreed. After a quick perusal, I rather like this article. Has the article improved since mid December 2006? I mainly scanned the headlines, so maybe I missed something obvious, will take another look later. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  02:44, 20 January 2007 (PST)

Songs featured in Lost

  • Nominated by:  Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  21:38, 22 December 2006 (PST)
  • Rationale: A nice multi-faceted topic that showcases a nice encyclopedic article for Lostpedia. This collection of information is easily the best collection of music, even when compared to all other Lost fansites-- other webpages specializing in Lost's music are not as complete as Lostpedia's article! Our information also includes detailed information on the music of promotionals, official music videos, and international broadcasts, as well as links to separate articles on TLE and Soundtrack music. In short, this article nicely demonstrates the power of the wiki-method of community information gathering.
  • Yes - (see rationale) -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  21:38, 22 December 2006 (PST)
  • No - I think it's too listy for AOTW. If we had a section on what the songs meant (symbolically), then that would make the article much better. --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  00:21, 23 December 2006 (PST)
  • Not yet I agree with Lost Soul. Unlike the content of some list articles that were previously featured, such as Automobiles, most of the songs featured in the show were selected for a reason, and often hold a symbolic significance to the events where they are employed. However, the article remains of good potential, but still needs work to relate it more to the storyline. Please see my explanation above at A-Missions for further details-- 01:01, 23 December 2006 (PST)
  • Yes Based on the recent evidence of the obvious failure to apply the above suggestions without ending up speculating most of the relations, I change my vote to Yes, given that I believe now that this article currently makes a good AOTW. -- 15:47, 20 January 2007 (PST)
  • Rebuttal - There is no intention in this article to relate to the storyline. It is simply the best resource on this topic on the entirety of the Internet. It is indeed a list, and is so in-depth it is a list of lists of different subtopics. It deserves to be highlighted as one of Lostpedia's gems. If there is to be an analysis with regard to storyline, it belongs in a separate analysis article, not this one. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  13:20, 23 December 2006 (PST)
  • Okay, I've added a "symbolism" column for this article. However, I am a bit uncomfortable adding this in, as it smacks of theory, which belongs on a subpage. This might be marginally ok for an analytical article, but this article is not: in other words the rest of the table in the article is fact, whereas the symbolism is speculation by the editors. For example what is the symbolism of Make Your Own Kind of Music? Is it that 1) Desmond lives alone by his own rules, or 2) The Island makes your thoughts come true a la Crichton's Sphere (Psychic Projection (theory)), or 3) it just dates the equipment to the 70s? Your thoughts? -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  02:35, 20 January 2007 (PST)
  • I think you are waiting for someone to state the obvious, so I'll go ahead and bite. Theories do not belong on the article page: please revert. I think the article should remain as a page of facts. This analysis that people are suggesting, should go on a new page, or possibly in a new section of the existing document as long as it is clearly labeled as analysis.--Dagg 02:46, 20 January 2007 (PST)

Live Together, Die Alone

  • Nominated by: Mr. Crabby 16:03, 17 January 2007 (PST)
  • This is an extremely well written article and I think it's a perfect candidate for Article of the Week
  • Note: Working on this article now, as its synopsis has become bloated, and essentially a paraphrase of the entire transcript (instead of a summary). I'm also trying a new format for the flashbacks. Will report back when finished, it should be a few days. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  21:07, 17 January 2007 (PST)
  • Thanks for working on it, Santa, as I agree on the summary problem (bloat). A lot of these longer articles are not necessarily better, because they don't focus on important points, they just keep adding more and more info, which would probably make most readers' eyes glaze over. --PandoraX 04:39, 19 January 2007 (PST)
  • Yes - See article talk for changes. If it still seems somewhat long, remember that this is a double 2 hour episode; most episodes would be half this length. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  02:24, 20 January 2007 (PST)

Bloopers and continuity errors

  • Nominated by: --PandoraX 04:39, 19 January 2007 (PST)
  • I personally think this is probably one of the cooler articles (and pretty different from the other "in show" info we usually feature). A change of pace, I'd say. Though I personally wouldn't have a problem with any of the above nominations, either, they are all good.

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