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Several [[characters]] talk of "'''good people'''" and "'''bad people'''" in ''[[Lost]]''. It is not yet known what is meant by this (indeed, as many of the characters have killed or tried to kill at least one other person, on or off the island) or who qualifies as "good" or "bad" in their eyes, as on the show, "good" and "bad" are applied as relative terms.
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Several [[characters]] talk of "'''good people'''" and "'''bad people'''" in ''[[Lost]]''. Characters' interpretations of these terms vary greatly. Self-proclaimed "good" characters have hurt and even killed other people. By the final season, the term evolved into a running joke, and characters openly distrusted anyone calling themselves "the good guys".
 
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|[[Image:Aaron-m.jpg]]||[[Aaron]]||Good||[[Eko]]
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|[[Image:Aaron-m.jpg]]||[[Aaron]]||Good||[[Eko]], [[Kate]]
 
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|[[Image:Alex-m.jpg]]||[[Alex]]||Good||[[Claire]]
 
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|[[Image:ana-m.jpg]]||[[Ana Lucia]]||Good/Bad||[[Libby]]/[[Ben]]
 
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|[[Image:Ben-m.jpg]]||[[Ben]]||Good/Bad||[[Ben]]/[[Juliet]], [[Locke]], [[Sayid]]
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|[[Image:Charlie-m.jpg]]||[[Charlie]]||Good||[[Charlie]], [[Desmond]], [[Nadia]]
 
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|[[Image:hurley-m.jpg]]||[[Hurley]]||Good||[[Carmen]]
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|[[Image:jack-m.jpg]]||[[Jack]]||Good||[[Rose]], [[Christian Shephard]], [[Achara]], [[Kate]], [[Dan]]
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|[[Image:jin-m.jpg]]||[[Jin]]||Good||[[Poor man]], [[Desmond]]
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|[[Image:juliet-m.jpg]]||[[Juliet]]||Good||[[Jack]], [[Sun]]
 
|[[Image:juliet-m.jpg]]||[[Juliet]]||Good||[[Jack]], [[Sun]]
 
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|[[Image:kate-m.jpg]]||[[Kate]]||Good/Bad||[[Locke]]/[[Kate]], [[Edward Mars]], [[Dan]]
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|[[Image:sayid-m.jpg]]||[[Sayid]]||Good/Bad||[[Hurley]]/[[Sayid]]
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|[[Image:others-m.jpg]]||[[The Others]]||Good/Bad||[[Ethan]], [[Ben]]/[[Claire]], [[Charlie]]
 
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|[[Image:Jacob-m.jpg]]||[[Jacob]]||Good||[[Ben]], [[Mikhail]]
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Details are listed below, sorted by episode.
 
Details are listed below, sorted by episode.
   
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* [[Sawyer]] tells [[Charlie]] "I'm not a '''good person'''.". {{crossref|2x13}}
 
* [[Sawyer]] tells [[Charlie]] "I'm not a '''good person'''.". {{crossref|2x13}}
 
* [[Sayid]] says: "I was 23 years old when the Americans came to my country. I was a '''good man'''. I was a soldier. And when they left I was something different." {{crossref|2x14}}
 
* [[Sayid]] says: "I was 23 years old when the Americans came to my country. I was a '''good man'''. I was a soldier. And when they left I was something different." {{crossref|2x14}}
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* When [[Sayid]] is threatening to shoot him, [[Ben]] screams, "You can't do this! I am '''not a bad person'''!" {{crossref|2x14}}
 
* [[Claire]] tells [[Danielle Rousseau]] that "She was ''not like'' the Others, '''she was good'''," referring to [[Alexandra Rousseau]], who she met in the [[Medical Station]]. {{crossref|2x15}}
 
* [[Claire]] tells [[Danielle Rousseau]] that "She was ''not like'' the Others, '''she was good'''," referring to [[Alexandra Rousseau]], who she met in the [[Medical Station]]. {{crossref|2x15}}
 
* [[Ethan]] claims that "they" are "good family": "We are '''good people''', Claire. '''Good family'''." {{crossref|2x15}}
 
* [[Ethan]] claims that "they" are "good family": "We are '''good people''', Claire. '''Good family'''." {{crossref|2x15}}
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* [[Hurley]] to his mother on [[Sayid]]: "He is my friend. But he's also got this double life where he does crazy ninja moves and spy stuff. But he's a '''good guy'''." [[Carmen]] replies: "A good guy doesn't kill three men. A good guy doesn't kill any men." {{crossref|5x02}}
 
* [[Hurley]] to his mother on [[Sayid]]: "He is my friend. But he's also got this double life where he does crazy ninja moves and spy stuff. But he's a '''good guy'''." [[Carmen]] replies: "A good guy doesn't kill three men. A good guy doesn't kill any men." {{crossref|5x02}}
 
* [[Pierre Chang]] to [[Jack]] about [[Sawyer]]: "Ah, yes. '''Good man''', LaFleur." {{crossref|5x09}}
 
* [[Pierre Chang]] to [[Jack]] about [[Sawyer]]: "Ah, yes. '''Good man''', LaFleur." {{crossref|5x09}}
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* [[Kate]] tells [[Carole Littleton]] about [[Aaron]]: "He's so sweet, and kind, and '''good'''." {{crossref|5x11}}
 
* [[Bram]] says to [[Frank]]: "We're the '''good guys'''." Frank responds: "In my experience, the people who go out of their way to tell you they're the good guys are the bad guys." {{crossref|5x16}}
 
* [[Bram]] says to [[Frank]]: "We're the '''good guys'''." Frank responds: "In my experience, the people who go out of their way to tell you they're the good guys are the bad guys." {{crossref|5x16}}
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=== Season 6 ===
 
=== Season 6 ===
 
* Frank to Sun, about [[Ilana's group]]: "They say they're the '''good''' guys." {{crossref|6x01}}
 
* Frank to Sun, about [[Ilana's group]]: "They say they're the '''good''' guys." {{crossref|6x01}}
* [[Dogen]] tells [[Sayid]] that for every man there is a scale and on one side of the scale there is good and on the other side evil. {{Crossref|6x06}}
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* [[Dogen]] tells [[Sayid]] that for every man there is a scale and on one side of the scale there is '''good''' and on the other side evil. {{Crossref|6x06}}
**Sayid tells Dogen that he does not know him even though he thinks he does and that he is a good man. {{Crossref|6x06}}
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**Sayid tells Dogen that he does not know him even though he thinks he does and that he is a '''good''' man. {{Crossref|6x06}}
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* "I needed you to stay '''good'''." - ''[[Mother]] to [[Jacob]]'' {{Crossref|6x15}}
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* "Am I '''good''', Mother?" - ''[[Jacob]] to [[Mother]] (twice)'' {{Crossref|6x15}}
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* "I think you're a '''good''' guy, Sayid. You know, a lot of people have told you that you're not. Maybe you've heard it so many times you started believing it. You can't let other people tell you what you are, dude. You have to decide that for yourself." - ''[[Hurley X|Hurley]] to [[Sayid X|Sayid]]'' {{Crossref|6x17}}
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* "You know, you were a real '''good''' number two." - ''[[Hurley]] to [[Ben]]'' {{Crossref|6x17}}
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==Great==
 
==Great==
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===Season 4=== <!-- Please keep these sorted by episode -->
 
===Season 4=== <!-- Please keep these sorted by episode -->
 
*Questioned by [[Harper]], [[Juliet]] calls both [[Ben]] and [[Goodwin]] simply "'''great'''". {{crossref|4x06}}
 
*Questioned by [[Harper]], [[Juliet]] calls both [[Ben]] and [[Goodwin]] simply "'''great'''". {{crossref|4x06}}
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===Season 6=== <!-- Please keep these sorted by episode -->
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*After being called a real good number two by [[Hurley]], [[Ben]] says, "And you were a '''great''' number one, Hugo." {{crossref|6x17}}
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== Bad ==
 
== Bad ==
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===Season 6===
 
===Season 6===
 
* [[Jacob]] explains that he had to get Hurley and Jack away from the Temple, because '''someone bad''' is about to arrive there. {{crossref|6x05}}
 
* [[Jacob]] explains that he had to get Hurley and Jack away from the Temple, because '''someone bad''' is about to arrive there. {{crossref|6x05}}
* [[Dogen]] tells [[Sayid]] that for every man there is a scale and on one side of the scale there is good and on the other side evil. {{Crossref|6x06}}
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* [[Dogen]] tells [[Sayid]] that for every man there is a scale and on one side of the scale there is good and on the other side '''evil'''. {{Crossref|6x06}}
* Dogen calls [[Jacobs's nemesis]] "Evil Incarnate". {{Crossref|6x06}}
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* Dogen calls the Man in Black "Evil Incarnate". {{Crossref|6x06}}
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* "That thing is '''evil'''." - ''[[Ilana]] to the group at the beach about [[the Man in Black]]'' {{crossref|6x12}}
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* "Those people are '''bad''', Jacob, '''very bad'''." - ''[[Mother]] to her son, about [[Claudia's people]]'' {{Crossref|6x15}}
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* "... my people. You wanna know if they’re '''bad'''. That woman may be insane, but she’s most definitely right about that. - ''[[The Man in Black]] to [[Jacob]], about [[Claudia's people]]'' {{Crossref|6x15}}
   
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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Latest revision as of 09:20, 16 April 2020

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Ethan tells Claire that the Others are "good people"

Several characters talk of "good people" and "bad people" in Lost. Characters' interpretations of these terms vary greatly. Self-proclaimed "good" characters have hurt and even killed other people. By the final season, the term evolved into a running joke, and characters openly distrusted anyone calling themselves "the good guys".

Occurrences

The following characters have been called good and/or bad by other characters. Only direct references are included below.

Good/Bad Referenced by
Aaron-m Aaron Good Eko, Kate
Alex-m Alex Good Claire
Ana-m Ana Lucia Good/Bad Libby/Ben
Ben-m Ben Good/Bad Ben, Hurley/Juliet, Locke, Sayid
Charlie-m Charlie Good Charlie, Desmond, Nadia
Claire-m Claire Good/Bad Richard Malkin, Ethan/Dogen
Desmond-m Desmond Good/Bad Penelope/Charles Widmore
Eko-m Eko Good/Bad Charlotte Malkin/Yemi, Amina
Ethan-m Ethan Bad Charlie
Hurley-m Hurley Good Carmen, Ben
Jack-m Jack Good Rose, Christian Shephard, Achara, Kate, Daniel
Jin-m Jin Good Poor man, Desmond, Bernard
Juliet-m Juliet Good Jack, Sun
Kate-m Kate Good/Bad Locke, Daniel/Kate, Edward Mars
Locke-m Locke Good Ben, Eddie Colburn
Michael-m Michael Good/Bad Ben/Hurley
Naomi-m Naomi Bad Ben
Sawyer-m Sawyer Good/Bad Pierre/Sawyer, Cassidy
Sayid-m Sayid Good/Bad Hurley, Sayid/Sayid
Others-m The Others Good/Bad Ethan, Ben/Claire, Charlie
Jacob-m Jacob Good/Bad Ben, Mikhail/Man In Black
Monster-portal The Man in Black Bad Jacob, Dogen, Ilana
PortalWidmoreAlt Widmore Bad Ben

Details are listed below, sorted by episode.

Good

Season 1

Season 2

Season 3

Season 4

Season 5

Season 6

  • Frank to Sun, about Ilana's group: "They say they're the good guys." ("LA X, Part 1")
  • Dogen tells Sayid that for every man there is a scale and on one side of the scale there is good and on the other side evil. ("Sundown")
    • Sayid tells Dogen that he does not know him even though he thinks he does and that he is a good man. ("Sundown")
  • "I needed you to stay good." - Mother to Jacob ("Across the Sea")
  • "Am I good, Mother?" - Jacob to Mother (twice) ("Across the Sea")
  • "I think you're a good guy, Sayid. You know, a lot of people have told you that you're not. Maybe you've heard it so many times you started believing it. You can't let other people tell you what you are, dude. You have to decide that for yourself." - Hurley to Sayid ("The End")
  • "You know, you were a real good number two." - Hurley to Ben ("The End")


Great

  • Magnus Hanso's first name is Latin for "Great".
  • The DeGroots: The surname DeGroot is derived from the Dutch for "The Great."

Season 1

Season 2

  • Aaron was a great man, according to Eko. He is referring to the Biblical Aaron but in doing so may be implying that baby Aaron is also great. ("The 23rd Psalm")
  • Tariq says of Hassan Jarrah, Sayid's father, "Sayid, you are a loyal soldier. The son of a great hero." ("One of Them")
  • Ben refers to Him as "a great man" and a "brilliant man" but not a forgiving man. ("Two for the Road")
  • Eko tells Locke that "Yemi was a great man, a priest, a man of God." ("?")

Season 3

Season 4

Season 6

  • After being called a real good number two by Hurley, Ben says, "And you were a great number one, Hugo." ("The End")


Bad

Season 1

Season 2

Season 3

Season 5

Season 6

See also