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Why Desmond Hit Locke

Desmond is trying to get every FST character to remember the island

As we saw in Everybody Loves Hugo Desmond persuaded Hurley to continue seeing Libby this instigates Hurleys visions of the OT. We also see Desmond looking at Hurley and Libby on their date. He was seeing if he was successful in making Hurley have his visions. We then saw Desmond run down Locke, and when the shot was close up on Lockes face we saw him blinking alot he could be having flashes of the OT. In the next episode we will see Desmond try and get jack to have the vision as well.

Deja Vu Flash

Desmond needs Locke to have a near-death experience like himself and Charlie to show him the existence of the original timeline. Support:

1. "[He] just need[s] to show them something."
2. He's matching Charlie's dangerous stunt.
3. Desmond wants Locke to regain his ability to walk by getting him to a hospital where spinal super surgeon Jack can work his magic. This will open his eyes à la Desmond, Charlie, Hurley, Faraday, etc.
4. Locke regained his ability to walk in the first season: it was the impact from falling off the plane. A similar impact will take him back to that moment.

(Lost is presenting us with another dichotomy or yin/yang scenario. There are two ways for the FST Oceanics to connect to their OT timelines:

Love

Pain, brutality, near death experience)

To Kill Him

1. Since Desmond's mind is aware of two time-lines and he thought Man in Black was the real Locke, he wanted to take revenge on Locke for throwing him into the well in OT.

He did not appear angry or distressed when he ran down Locke. He seemed to have a very good reason for doing it.

1. He hit Locke with the car because he believed it was MiB.
2. Fake Locke comes to the island in the form of real Locke. Thus Desmond killing real Locke would prevent Fake Locke from making the transition. Fake Locke realizes this so he tries to kill Desmond by tossing him down the well.
3. In the island reality, MIB IS John Locke; Everyone on the island has an alternate self in the alternate universe; So, in order to trap the MIB (John Locke) on the island, Desmond has to remove John Locke from the alternate universe to keep MIB from being able to exist there;
4. Killing Locke in the FST is also necessary to reconcile with the OT where Locke is dead.

Assisting MiB's Plans

The FST takes place in 2004. fLocke is trying to leave the island in 2007. In order for the Ajira plane to carry fLocke to freedom, everybody from the OT who is accompanying him must also be on the FST Ajira flight 316 in three years time. One plane will survive and the other will fade out of existence as the universe course-corrects. By awakening the others, Desmond is serving the MiB, because their desire to discover the truth about their island memories will lead them to board Ajira flight 316, since many of them remember that particular flight as the way back to the island.

Fake Locke Cannot Leave the Island

• Fake Locke will never be allowed to leave the island. With Michael's appearance we learned that the 'Voices' are those trapped on the Island for wrongdoing.
• Flocke's "evil" is why he is imprisoned on the Island - it is his prison.
• MIB won't be able to leave the island while Jacob or a Jacob replacement exists, so he needs to get everyone killed - not by his own hands off course - to proceed with his plan.

Hurley's Visitors

• Hurley can only talk to people who have not "moved on". People such as Michael, Charlie, etc. have not "moved on" due to their killing. Richard's wife may have failed to "move on" for another reason.
• A reason for spirits not moving on is the Island is not done with them.
• It seems that there may be some difference between the spirits viiting Hurley on the Island and the ones visiting him off the Island. Michael's spirit said he was stuck on the Island because of what he had done. He could not move on because he still hadn't gotten over his murders and the falling out between him and Walt. Charlie, Eko, and Ana Lucia all visited Hurley off the Island, which means they may have moved on and their spirits could leave the Island. Charlie sacraficed himself for all of his friends, Eko stop blaming himself for his brother's death and realized he was doing what he had to, and Ana Lucia was finally accepted by everyone and refused to kill Ben. Richard's wife may have felt that Richard killing the doctor may have been her fault, which is why she can't move on. They all still have a purpose for the Island which is why they can still appear on Earth, but the ones who haven't moved on emotionally can not move on from the Island.

Dead People who Reappear Are MiB

• Dave was actually MIB trying to get Hurley to commit suicide because he knows how important Hurley is to Jacob.
• Jacob and Isabella are incarnations of MiB. MiB is capable of assuming the forms of dead people. He assumed the form of Ben's island adopted dead daughter to manipulate Ben into following MiB. He assumed the form of Jack's dead father to manipulate Locke and Ben into moving the island and establishing the conditions which would make his plan work. And he assumed the form of dead Jacob to manipulate Hurley into doing things which served MiB's interests. And the most impressive incarnation is assuming the form of Michael to convince Hurley to stop Ilana from destroying the plane and then to lead all of the remaining candidates to MiB's camp.

(However Ilana said that MIB can no longer change his face. So Hurley's visions must be actual visions of the dead, if she is to be believed.)

They are made to appear by the MiB

• When they appear they seem to be serving the needs of the MiB, and while it's clearly not the same entity as is currently present in a Locke-shaped body, the MiB can manifest itself as dead people in order to encourage people to do what he wants them to i.e. getting the other candidates to join him.
• The MiB has said that all he needs in order to get off the island is the other candidates, and yet he (as Locke) is not particularly active in pursuing them - he is 'waiting for them' calmly, as if he knows they are on their way.
• He didn't seem particularly surprised to see Hurley pop out of the bushes at that particular moment.
• He knows that he has no influence over them as False Locke and therefore has to resort to incarnations of people relevant to the person he wishes to persuade.

FST Conciousness to the rescue!

• Desmond is trying and eventually will force Locke's FST consciousness into the OT. That way Flocke become Locke again but merged with the original consciousness of the MIB so that he is the MIB but with consciousness of Locke.

Evidence: Jack said "Yeah, I know Locke, and I wouldn't give up on him yet" line during the Season 5 finale. This way, Jack will become the new Jacob, and Locke is the new MIB, but instead of warring with each other, they will peacefully coexist. Black and White. Yin and Yang.

Desmond's Master Conundrum

Desmond is proved to be invincible and unable to be defeated. He has incited fear in John Locke, and poses a danger to Flocke's plan to leave the island. Flocke is unable to survive higher levels of energy. The young child smiles because Jacob is winning. Winning the war of course. If one is able to actively leave the island, then that person takes on the role of Jacob. Jacob shared the island with others while MIB wants to prevent that.

The Mysterious Boy

The Mysterious Boy only shows himself to candidates; that's why Richard wasn't able to see him, whereas Desmond did see. That means Desmond is the last recruit and new candidate to replace Jacob.

• If it is true that Desmond is a candidate, this means that MiB broke "The Rules," as the mystery boy reminded MiB "remember, you can't kill them" in a previous episode. Whether or not Desmond's tumble down the well was fatal, MiB was clearly acting in a manner that could result in death.

Hair Color Explained

The Mysterious Boy is a pre-born (or re-born) Jacob, this is why he can only appear in the presence of Candidates and the MiB. The Mysterious Boy could be reincarnated as any of the Candidates and takes on some of the appearances of them in his pre-born state. This why he has been seen differently by both. When in the presence of Sawyer he was blonde. When in the presence of Desmond he has brown hair. When he comes to the presence of Hurley he will be large. When he comes in the presence of Kate, she will be female.

• Desmond isn't a candidate though.

...Is the Island

The boy is a physical manifestation of the island's essence. In other words, he IS the island. His hair is darker now to symbolize the MIB's growing power. The "darkness" that is growing on the island.

The Well

1. Desmond is in the well with a Frozen Donkey Wheel
2. Pushing Desmond down the well into the electromagnetic anomaly is Locke's way of killing him without him remaining on the island as a whisper (However, unknown to Locke, Desmond can survive this). Once Desmond hits the pocket of energy he awakes back in FST.
3. The wells are connected via underground tunnels. These same tunnels are the Cerberus Vents. Because of MiB's inability to withstand the EM pylons, the tunnels were a way of routing the monster around the island, in effect, a way to control and direct the "security system" by utilizing the Electromagnetism found in each well.

Well is not FDW Well

This well is not the FDW well, but still has electromagnetic properties that will trigger some event for Desmond.

• Evidence: The scenery around the well is different than the FDW well, and MiB references there are several of these wells, and that its builders didn't find anything at this one. However, MiB does indicate this to be an EM hotspot.

Jack and MiB Face to Face

• MIB knows Jack is the true candidate and MiB looked at Jack as if he was his new target. Seeing Locke alive and well isn't helping him with his daddy issues.
  • There could be some validity to this. Another way to view Jack's position is by virtue of his relationship with the candidates not yet in MiB's group. Sun did not trust MiB when MiB approached her but she trusts Jack to find Jin and get them off the island. Hurley was unsure of himself about meeting MiB, but Jack coming along because he has chosen to trust Hurley, making Hurley's decision easier for Hurley to go ahead with. Should MiB recruit or convince Jack, Jack could bring Hurley and Sun on board. That is the seeming value of Jack at the moment. MiB will get his candidates with him. It does not mean Jack, like Sawyer, will not have his own ulterior motives for signing up with MiB/Flocke.
• The sight of Locke has just shocked Jack.
• Jack and MIB react strongly upon seeing each other because Jack is no longer Jack, he is Jacob now. This is why he has stopped leading people. This episode gave an important clue. Richard says that Jacob can't tell people what to do. This is why Jack(Jacob) is no longer the "man in charge". This new "Jack" corresponds in time to Jacob dying.

Evidence please

Zen Desmond

• Desmond was not feeling fear about being alone with MiB. He then got thrown down into a well. Desmond is not afraid or worried about his path on the island anymore because he knows his FS counterpart is working on setting the timelines straight.
  • Desmond is pure determinism at this point. His consciousness never left the FST, as such his OT consciousness just does what it's told, acts without any free will. His salvation for everyone else is the transfer of consciousness for everyone on the flight from OT into FST.
    • But it seems quite the opposite; that FST Desmond wants everyone in the FST to remember the OT and transfer their consciousness to the OT.
      • He definitely wants everyone in the FST to remember the OT, but we have no evidence that he wants to transfer anything. Desmond touched his own OT consciousness and received from Daniel the explanation that something in the OT made them want to change something. Now that they have, Desmond wants to reconnect everyone with their OT memories so that they can all reclaim in the FST what was important to them in the OT.
• Desmond now knows he caused the plane to crash, and like Faraday doesn't "want to set off a nuclear bomb", Desmond wants to correct his "mistake".
• The last time Desmond was subject to Electromagnetic Energy he began to see into the future on a regular basis, allowing him to see and prevent Charlie Pace's death, it also allowed him to move his conciousness to another time. Considering that after his second experience with Electromagnetic Energy he can again move his conciousness, it's fair to believe he can once again predict the future and it's ultimate outcomes (He could see Charlie's death would get them rescued). If you know what's about to happen before it happens, there would be no reason for him to fear Locke.

The Whispers

• Michael is lying about the whispers.
  • The first 3 instances of whispers are followed by a sighting of never-been-dead Walt and his backward words of warning. Appearances after whispers are manipulations toward certain actions and outcomes. (An opposing force caused Walt's messages to translate backwards and uninterpreted--'don't push the button, the button's bad' and 'they're coming and they're close'.) #In Season 2, whispers are heard: a) right before Cindy is secretly taken by the Others. (The Other 48 Days); b) right before Jack, Kate, Michael, Hurley, Sawyer (darted) are surprised by the Others (Live Together, Die Alone, Part 2).
  • Whispers are a distraction preceding manipulative words. That's why Ben told Rousseau: "if you want your child to live, every time you hear whispers, you run the other way." (Season 5, Dead Is Dead) Rousseau survived the Others for many years following this advice.

• The Whispers are as Michael said - dead people who can't move on
  • The whispers have an agenda unrelated to Jacob's or MiB's. The agenda of the whispers falls in line with the desires of the people who's spirits are whispering. They precede attacks from the others and from Smokey in any form, so they are just trying to protect people. This holds with Ben telling Rousseau to run the other way when she hears whispers. If Ben had no real desire to bring Rousseau any harm, telling her to use the whispers as an alarm was pretty sound advice, even if it was (in Ben's eyes) just to prevent her getting caught by the Others.
  • The whispers show themselves only in times of trouble. They are not associated with Others, MiB, or higher power even. They watch, and when something big is going down, their 'talking' becomes more intense and it gets louder, to the point where the audience and characters can hear them. Therefore, the whispers are tied to events that happen, not factions/people. The reason they appear so often with the Others is because for a lot of the time, the Others were committing kidnappings, deceptions, raids and so forth, which would have invited a lot of talk among the witnessing whispering ghosts.
  • The Whisper transcripts need updating for later episodes, but the ones that exist can seem to indicate "ghosts" who both watch the action of the Losties but also attempt to manipulate the action in some undisclosed way.
    • Examples, during the whisper sequence with Charlie on the beach, the following statements were made: "Grab it right now", "I know I've had it", "Let's get him moving", "Are you confused or something ?" (sped up), "He's just leaving him " (reversed), "We can all raise this baby "
    • Death (and love) are "Doors" in the Lostverse. Some people get stuck on the other side of the door without moving on. When Ilana dies, she will "wake up" surrounded by a myriad of ghosts and will work with them for whatever their endgame is.

• The Whispers are connected to the Others
  • Typically, the whispers are heard before The Others make an appearance.
  • Many of the ghosts would be dead others, and they would want to help or warn the living others.
  • Whispers appear before the Smoke Monster arrives. The Whispers have been traditionally followed by the "tick tick" sound and black smoke - hence the ghosts providing a warning to those in danger. Knowing that alive inhabitants might be a little perturbed by the sound, this is a pretty good warning; and the alerted islanders run for cover. This is also indicated by Danielle Rousseau "when you hear the whispers run)
  • At the beginning of Season 6 when Kate/Jack/Hurley/etc... are in the tunnels leading to the temple, whispers are heard before The Others kidnap them.

• The Whispers/Ghosts are connected to the FST Characters
  • No one who is a 'Ghost' has made an appearance in the FST thus far.
  • Michael is the first original passenger of Oceanic 815 to appear as a 'ghost' on the island (Walt and Christian Shepherd excluded).
  • Michael asked Hurley to apologize to Libby if he saw her. This suggests that Michael cannot see/find Libby and this could be explained by two possibilities: (a)That her spirit has 'moved on' or (B)Her 'spirit' has left the OT altogether to join FST Libby's consciousness.
  • FST Libby's memory of the OT was triggered easily by seeing Hurley in a commercial. This is much less extreme than what other characters have had to go through to obtain their OT memories (see: Charlie's and Desmond's near-death epiphanies).
  • Taking the Libby example further, those who have died in the OT (who are not 'ghosts') have had their consciousness merged with their respective FST mind. This is why their memories of the OT are much easier to obtain. For example, FST Daniel Faraday simply looked at Charlotte and had an OT-related memory.

• Incongruities with the Whispers
  • In the first season, there is a boar that is taunting Sawyer, and it's accompanied by whispers saying "it'll come back around," which are the last words of the man Sawyer killed, leading Sawyer to believe that the boar is the ghost of the man he killed. Lost's explanations of the whispers make sense for that episode, but it is unclear why that man's spirit would end up on the island.
  • Walt was whispering to Shannon in Man of Science, Man of Faith and Abandoned and both Shannon and Sayid also in the same episode but Walt clearly got off the island and wasn't stuck on the island so how was he one of the people who could whisper if he was able to leave the island.
  • Walt is "special," and that is why he was able to appear as if he was a ghost.
  • Walt projects his image into other people's minds. Walt's ability had emphasis in the creative mind, meaning he can project what he can think of. So, he reads about polar bears, and you get one. He reads and thinks about birds, you get them flocking in. He even tries to visualize him throwing the knife with Locke before he successfully nails the throw.

FST visions of the OT

• FST Desmond knows the name of his son in the OT (when Ben asked him outside the school)
• In the FST, only people who have died in the OT have organically generated visions of the OT
  • Charlie, Faraday, and now Libby all had visions of the OT without the aid of someone else
    • But why didn't FST Charlotte appear to have any OT memories? Or Arzt? Keamy? Must not be a guarantee.
      • Charlie, Faraday and Libby had visions of people they loved, ie their soul-mates. If someone doesn't find their soul-mate on the island, then they don't have a vision. Interestingly, Charlotte must not reciprocate Faraday's love. (Obvious, since Faraday got nowhere with her over several weeks while she hopped into bed with FST Sawyer after about five minutes.)
    • Only Faraday and Libby had visions without the aid of someone else. Charlie would have died had Jack not revived him, just as he revived him after being hanged by Ethan in the jungle.
      • Jack didn't aid Charlie's vision though. He interrupted it, which is why Charlie was angry. It was the near death experience that brought on the vision, not Jack reviving him.
  • Desmond and Hurley had visions, but only with the aid of other people

Purpose of FST visions of the OT

• THEY have to be convinced that they're life has improved in the FST. Finally, LOST stands in the line of literary tradition that a story leads its characters through crises to an ultimately better life. FST Desmond helps them to get their happy end. Locke will walk. Happy couples erverywhere... Everything good from the OT island life has to be transferred to the FST timeline, so that the characters will be motivated to prevent the OT loop / a new loop. Some mistakes must not be made (again). OT Desmond has to set everything in motion on the island to establish the FST as definitive timeline. FST Desmond has to keep the FST in motion / safe.

Desmond has been claimed, for good

• The Man in Black is confounded that Desmond has no fear. Sayid also described a numbing of sensations. Claimed persons have exhibited erratic behavior from their previous personalities. Desmond's optimistic and carefree disposition marks him as claimed by the light side.
  • Totally agree with you. While Sayid said he wasn't feeling good, pointing he felt no more and never smiling, we can see Desmon smiling but at the same time never being scared. Locke realized who he was after asking him about his fearless situation, that' s why he threw him down the well. Walking with him thru the jungle was kind of an interview for MiB to try to find out who he really was.
    • Now that its mentioned, there are some similarities between the Zen-like Dogen and Desmond, who seems to be on a path of Zen. Also, Dogen (awesome character) seemed extremely well poised, and not one to let fear consume him
    • Desmond is on the path of ‘true love’. Like a ‘love fool’ who does anything for love. In the FST he is ready to sacrifice his wealth power and status to seek out Penny and set the timeline back to the OT. Desmond is not literally a fool, he does understand he is part of a grand scheme of something going in both FST and OT. Let’s not forget that Desmond is the constant, as such once he begins to walk this path, and understanding what true love is (ala Penny)and the sacrifices involved, he is more of a neutral, and can be anywhere. Not really on anyone’s side . I see Desmond as someone who is going to carry/guide/catalyst the candidates to their destinies. Desmond is more like the ‘scale’ which balances the white rock against the black rock. He is a bit like the island, balancing the two entities Jacob vs MiB.MiB takes advantage of people's grief, fears or anxieties and pain to turn them(corrupt them) towards his agenda, Sayid, Claire, Sawyer, Richard. Desmond is in that place where these attributes don’t exist and MiB does not understand it. Remember Jacob said his plan was to prove MiB wrong that humans do not always, kill corrupt and destroy. That humans can make better choices. Should Desmond choose to sacrifice himself out of true love for something, he will be pretty much on his way to prove MiB wrong. Dogen was on the path of understanding the sacrifice that true love brings; to have his son live he has to do this work on the island. Dogen did say that Jacob drives a hard bargain. The MiB said his mother was ‘crazy’ , who knows MiB probably does not know true love as it applies to humans. I can see the season ending with some stupendous act of love, sacrifice, or bravery which will seem awesome, and at the same time in some sense seem like a waste from MiB and some people’s point of view to keep the balance or status quo on island. That’s love. On a lighter note, someone needs to show MiB some love or Zen or chill pills.
    • Desmond-as-fool is consistent with the Tarot imagery of the Fool: "The Fool is the spirit in search of experience. He represents the mystical cleverness bereft of reason within us, the childlike ability to tune into the inner workings of the world.... The Fool is both the beginning and the end, neither and otherwise, betwixt and between, liminal." (Hajo Banzhaf, Tarot and the Journey of the Hero (2000) )
• Desmond could be the goodness in humanity that Jacob wanted to prove to the MIB. Perhaps the lack of fear he projects startled the MIB(to para-phrase Yoda "fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to the dark side"). The MIB's could be that all humans are inherently fearful, and therefor corruptible, violent, and make make greedy selfish choices. Desmond could finally be the nail in the coffin for his view on humanity, thats why he through down the well, so he couldn't influence others.

Libby's visions in FST and OT

Libby is not only having visions of the OT in the FST, she had visions of the FST in the OT

• Though Libby's remembrance of Hurley once she met him on the island in the OT can be attributed to remembering him from the Santa Rosa Mental Institution, she may have also been remembering him from flashes of the FST she was having
• This would also explain why she was at Santa Rosa in the OT, which was never explained