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*The economist is tracking down Sayid and/or Ben
 
*The economist is tracking down Sayid and/or Ben
 
*The economist employs a network of assassins.
 
*The economist employs a network of assassins.
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* Elsa said he is old-fashioned if it comes down to technology. She doesn't really know what her boss does and he is not very often in town.
   
 
=== The Economist is [[Alvar Hanso]] ===
 
=== The Economist is [[Alvar Hanso]] ===
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* Hanso's agenda may conflict with both Widmore AND Ben's.
 
* Hanso's agenda may conflict with both Widmore AND Ben's.
 
* Ben may not be able to kill his worst enemy Widmore but he may be able to kill #2...Alvar Hanso.
 
* Ben may not be able to kill his worst enemy Widmore but he may be able to kill #2...Alvar Hanso.
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*Alvar Hanso is Danish, and so would not necessarily speak German.
 
=== The Economist is [[Charles Widmore]] ===
 
'''Evidence:'''
 
*We know that Widmore and Ben are enemies, and Sayid is working for [[Ben]]. It makes sense that Sayid is after [[Widmore]] and vice-versa.
 
*He has the means to do so.
 
*Widmore has a very large and extensive company. He is probably fluent in many different languages.
 
* In There's No Place Like Home parts 2 & 3 Enhanced it states that Charles Widmore is the Economist. This exert is take from There's No Place Like Home parts 2 & 3 Transcript: '''Sayid has become an assassin working for Ben, as revealed in this season's episode "The Economist" Ben provides Sayid with a list of people working for Charles Widmore. '''
 
:* That statement would mean that the Economist is working for Widmore, not that he is Widmore. The Economist was on the list of people working for Widmore.
 
 
'''Counter-evidence'''
 
* Ben can't kill Widmore (as he says in [[The Shape of Things to Come]]), so Sayid's target can't be Widmore, but perhaps someone who works for Widmore.
 
**When Ben mentioned he couldn't kill Widmore, could it not mean that he HIMSELF couldn't do it (for any number of possible reasons, including fear of creating a paradox given the 'time-travelling' element of the show)? Having somebody else kill Widmore - i.e. Sayid actually pulling the trigger - could be an attempt to avoid, or at least mitigate, this effect whilst actually achieving the desired goal.
 
*** Ben says he can't kill Widmore. He does not state that he could not hire someone to do this.
 
 
=== The Economist is [[Matthew Abaddon]] ===
 
'''Evidence:'''
 
*With what happened to Alex, Ben is motivated to kill him and all of the organization that was in charge of the freighter.
 
*Both seek survivors other than the Oceanic 6.
 
*[[Elsa]] has a bracelet and so does [[Naomi]] and they both have the same boss.
 
**The producers said that the bracelets share no connection besides one reminding Sayid of the other.
 
 
'''Counter-evidence'''
 
*According to Darlton, the fact that Elsa and Naomi both have the same bracelet doesn't mean anything. "Sometimes a bracelet is just a bracelet".
 
 
=== The Economist is [[Ben]] ===
 
* The Economist is Ben, and he is tricking both sides into destroying themselves.
 
* The Economist is Ben, he is using [[Sayid]] as a way to kill his enemies, he is also manipulating Sayid into wanting to return to the Island to escape his violent life.
 
   
 
=== The Economist is a character unknown at this time ===
 
=== The Economist is a character unknown at this time ===
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[[File:4x03_elsa_face.jpg|thumb|200px|Elsa (the Economist)]]
 
* The Economist is R.G. as [[Elsa]] and Naomi have very similar bracelets.
 
* The Economist is R.G. as [[Elsa]] and Naomi have very similar bracelets.
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** Darlton have stated that the bracelets are unrelated, except for the fact that the former may have caused Sayid to recall the latter.
 
* [[Elsa]] speaks in German to her boss, implying that the Economist speaks German. Based on the current characters, this is not someone we know.
 
* [[Elsa]] speaks in German to her boss, implying that the Economist speaks German. Based on the current characters, this is not someone we know.
 
** There isn't a single character in the Lost universe, for whom we have a strong proof that he/she doesn't speak German.
 
** There isn't a single character in the Lost universe, for whom we have a strong proof that he/she doesn't speak German.
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=== The Economist is on the [[Island]] ===
 
=== The Economist is on the [[Island]] ===
* The signal on Elsa's pager was about 30 minutes late, as was the [[payload]] in [[Daniel]]'s experiment.
 
** During the experiment Daniel talks to Regina and there is no delay, so there would be no difference with a pager
 
*** In any case, the signal on the pager is early, not late (she says they have called at 10, not the agreed time of 10:30)
 
**** I can't remember how the the time is comunicated to the viewer, but don't forget in German half ten means 9:30
 
*****The subtitling is correct. Elsa says "halb elf", which would be half eleven, or 10:30
 
 
* The Economist is [[Elsa]] herself, in a "Keyser Soze" sort of way.
 
* The Economist is [[Elsa]] herself, in a "Keyser Soze" sort of way.
 
** An anagram of "The Economist" is "Tom's Hot Niece."
 
** An anagram of "The Economist" is "Tom's Hot Niece."
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**** No one ever said that Elsa was actually talking to the Economist on the phone, someone else could have paged her in his name.
 
**** No one ever said that Elsa was actually talking to the Economist on the phone, someone else could have paged her in his name.
 
****The producers have said that all flashforwards take place in chronological order. Therefore, the death of Avellino happened before Elsa's.
 
****The producers have said that all flashforwards take place in chronological order. Therefore, the death of Avellino happened before Elsa's.
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=== The Economist was on the Island ===
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*The Economist is not on the Island currently, but was previously. He left or was forcibly removed from the Island shortly after Ben banished Charles Widmore, due to conflict of interest with Ben and his leadership. He was most likely working alongside Charles Widmore in covering up the crash of Oceanic 815 and had contributed to efforts to find the Island again. This will explain why Ben targeted him once it became apparent he was as much as a threat to the Island as Widmore. He shares this role along with Peter Avellino and Ivan Andropov.
   
 
=== The Economist is [[Thomas Mittelwork]] ===
 
=== The Economist is [[Thomas Mittelwork]] ===
* We know he speaks German
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* We know he speaks German.
 
* Also looking for [[The Island]], Ben could be eliminating competition.
 
* Also looking for [[The Island]], Ben could be eliminating competition.
 
* Mittelwork was searching for a personal assistant via the hansocareers.com website. This may be to hire Elsa or to replace her after her death.
 
* Mittelwork was searching for a personal assistant via the hansocareers.com website. This may be to hire Elsa or to replace her after her death.
 
=== The Economist is [[John Locke]]/Jeremy Bentham ===
 
*Jeremy Bentham was an economist (in a broad sense of the term)
 
*Ben could be trying to find Locke to take the island back, and Locke is trying to stop him
 
 
'''Counter-evidence'''
 
*Does Locke speak German?
 
*How does Locke have a network of off-island assassins?
 
**Ben had off-island connections, or at least island thugs he could send to the mainland to do his bidding, so perhaps Locke, as the new Island Messiah, has access to the same thug network.
 
*Would Sayid really kill Locke? Doesn't he think Widmore is the enemy?
 
 
=== The Economist is [[Desmond]]/[[Penelope]]===
 
* The Economist is Desmond David Hume. As written up in Wikipedia, "David Hume (April 26, 1711 – August 25, 1776)[1] was an 18th-century Scottish philosopher, economist, and historian, considered among the most important figures in the history of Western philosophy and the Scottish Enlightenment.
 
*They are trying to kill Ben before he finds [[Penelope]].
 
 
'''Counter-evidence'''
 
*How do they have a network of off-island assassins?
 
*Do they speak German?
 
*Would Sayid really kill either of them? Doesn't he think Widmore is the enemy? Even if he is actually, unbeknownst to him, tracking Widmore, presumably these paths lead in different directions since Penny is on the boat.
 
   
 
=== The Economist is [[Ivan Andropov]] ===
 
=== The Economist is [[Ivan Andropov]] ===
 
*After killing Andropov, Ben tells Sayid that he has successfully killed everyone on the list. Andropow may have been the economist.
 
*After killing Andropov, Ben tells Sayid that he has successfully killed everyone on the list. Andropow may have been the economist.
 
=== The Economist is [[Richard Alpert]] ===
 
* Richard may be acting secretly in defiance of Jacob and his interests on the Island. Richard may have his own agenda as yet undiscovered.
 
* Richard travels off-Island occasionally, but not often. This would explain The Economist's infrequent visits to Germany.
 
* Richard seems to have had a change of heart and has made a point of replacing Ben with Locke. If this is true and Ben has caught wind of this, it would follow that Ben would - out of personal interest - try and kill The Economist's/Richard's associates.
 
   
 
=== The Economist does not exist ===
 
=== The Economist does not exist ===
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== Why he uses a pager ==
 
== Why he uses a pager ==
 
*It's simply more reliable than a cell phone. He didn't want to risk being unable to reach Elsa if she happens to be out of range of cell phone towers.
 
*It's simply more reliable than a cell phone. He didn't want to risk being unable to reach Elsa if she happens to be out of range of cell phone towers.
*It's just a precaution if [[Elsa]] was to be killed or captured no one else could answer the phone and possibly recognize their voice
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*It's just a precaution if [[Elsa]] was to be killed or captured no one else could answer the phone and possibly recognize their voice.

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Identity

Clues

  • The Economist speaks German.
  • The economist is tracking down Sayid and/or Ben
  • The economist employs a network of assassins.
  • Elsa said he is old-fashioned if it comes down to technology. She doesn't really know what her boss does and he is not very often in town.

The Economist is Alvar Hanso

  • Much like Charles Widmore he can be classified as an "economist".
  • Alvar Hanso funded the creation of the Dharma Initiative. Ben helped slaughter the contingent of Dharma on the island. Ben could not get to Hanso at the time because he wasn't on the island. The opportunity to kill the mysterious Alvar Hanso may have only recently presented itself.
  • Hanso's agenda may conflict with both Widmore AND Ben's.
  • Ben may not be able to kill his worst enemy Widmore but he may be able to kill #2...Alvar Hanso.
  • Alvar Hanso is Danish, and so would not necessarily speak German.

The Economist is a character unknown at this time

4x03 elsa face

Elsa (the Economist)

  • The Economist is R.G. as Elsa and Naomi have very similar bracelets.
    • Darlton have stated that the bracelets are unrelated, except for the fact that the former may have caused Sayid to recall the latter.
  • Elsa speaks in German to her boss, implying that the Economist speaks German. Based on the current characters, this is not someone we know.
    • There isn't a single character in the Lost universe, for whom we have a strong proof that he/she doesn't speak German.
  • The Economist is a "supernatural entity" (similar to Jacob and Richard) who exists as the major rival to Jacob and his cult/society. This would explain Ben's desire to find him and kill his associates. The Economist may have been kicked off the Island at some time, displaced by Jacob. Ilana and Bram work for him currently and flew on Ajira Flight 316 to deliberately land on the Island. Charles Widmore, after being kicked off the Island by Ben, may have defected to The Economist's cult.
    • note that the people on Ben's list -- presumably all associates of The Economist -- are extremely wealthy. This might indicate that The Economist endows his devotees with great wealth to accomplish his cult's goals. His name, of course, is a giveaway that he deals with and has influence over money. Other rich men we've seen, notably Charles Widmore and Mr. Paik, may be working with him.

The Economist is on the Island

  • The Economist is Elsa herself, in a "Keyser Soze" sort of way.
    • An anagram of "The Economist" is "Tom's Hot Niece."
  • The Economist is dead. Sayid killed him after he killed Elsa, which was why Ben had a new "name" for him to move onto.
  • The Economist doesn't exist. He is a fictional character invented by the "other side" to flush out would-be assassins like Sayid.
  • The Economist is a MacGuffin, whose existence was solely to motivate this episode's plot.
  • The Economist is John Locke whose namesake was a famous philosopher and economist.
    • Very Feasible as the Locke and Linus relationship unfolds
  • The Economist is Jacob who hates technology.
    • Both Jacob and the Economist are averse to technology (Jacob, artificial light; the Economist, modern forms of communication)
  • A pager, while outdated now, is still a fairly advanced piece of technology; Jacob doesn't even like flashlights.
  • The Economist is Mr. Avellino, and the scene on the golf course takes place after Sayid kills Elsa. This might explain why Avellino becomes afraid once he learns Sayid's identity, since after Elsa's death, the individuals on Ben's List are now aware that Sayid is coming for them.
    • Mr. Avellino is Italian, not German, creating a weak link in this theory.
      • There is no reason the Economist must be German:
        • Because Elsa only gets paged two or three times a year, the Economist might only come to Berlin on business, and actually resides in another place.
        • There is certainly no reason that you have to be German to speak German. He might do this either because Elsa doesn't know Italian, he doesn't want to blow his cover, or because they know (or think they know) that Sayid doesn't know German. For that matter, we don't know that the person on the other end of the line was actually speaking German.
        • No one ever said that Elsa was actually talking to the Economist on the phone, someone else could have paged her in his name.
        • The producers have said that all flashforwards take place in chronological order. Therefore, the death of Avellino happened before Elsa's.

The Economist was on the Island

  • The Economist is not on the Island currently, but was previously. He left or was forcibly removed from the Island shortly after Ben banished Charles Widmore, due to conflict of interest with Ben and his leadership. He was most likely working alongside Charles Widmore in covering up the crash of Oceanic 815 and had contributed to efforts to find the Island again. This will explain why Ben targeted him once it became apparent he was as much as a threat to the Island as Widmore. He shares this role along with Peter Avellino and Ivan Andropov.

The Economist is Thomas Mittelwork

  • We know he speaks German.
  • Also looking for The Island, Ben could be eliminating competition.
  • Mittelwork was searching for a personal assistant via the hansocareers.com website. This may be to hire Elsa or to replace her after her death.

The Economist is Ivan Andropov

  • After killing Andropov, Ben tells Sayid that he has successfully killed everyone on the list. Andropow may have been the economist.

The Economist does not exist

  • Elsa was the intended target since Ben was content in discovering her death. She is working closely with Widmore herself. The pager going off was staged since Elsa had no economist employer needing her.

Why he uses a pager

  • It's simply more reliable than a cell phone. He didn't want to risk being unable to reach Elsa if she happens to be out of range of cell phone towers.
  • It's just a precaution if Elsa was to be killed or captured no one else could answer the phone and possibly recognize their voice.