Changes: Adam and Eve

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Adam and Eve are the nicknames given by Locke to the skeletons of the Man in Black and his adoptive mother when he, Kate and Jack discovered them in 2004. ("House of the Rising Sun") The bodies were laid to rest by Jacob in the Caves millennia before the crash of Flight 815 after the Mother was stabbed and the Man in Black was transformed into the smoke monster. ("Across the Sea")

Facts

Jack first discovered the caves in "White Rabbit", but Adam and Eve weren't seen until "House of the Rising Sun", when he and Kate stumbled upon them after escaping from a swarm of bees.
Locke gave the skeletons their nicknames, taken from Adam and Eve of the Bible. However, given the mother-son relationship between them, a more apt analogy would be Eve and Cain.
Jack neglected to mention the stones when Locke asked what had been discovered. (see also: Black and white)
The skeletons' identities were revealed in episode "Across the Sea", 111 episodes after their first appearance in "House of the Rising Sun".

Aande stones — The stones found on the bodies.

Characters' theories

Jack guessed that the bodies must have been dead 40-50 years based on the deterioration of their clothing. ("House of the Rising Sun") However, upon discovering the remains of a Nigerian smuggler, Locke told Boone that normal clothing would decompose within 2 years and that the high quality polyester on the smuggler's body would take 2-10 years to get to its current condition. ("Deus Ex Machina")
In 2007, when Hurley and Jack revisited the caves, Hurley theorized that the skeletons might belong to two of the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815 as a result of time travel. ("Lighthouse")

Interview testimony

In a January 2007 EW.com interview with Jeff Jensen, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse answered the question, "What is the meaning or significance of the two skeletons that Jack and Kate found in the cave of Season 1?"
In a March 2008 Underground Online article, the producers talked about how the skeletons might give insight into the nature of the show and evidence that certain elements were planned early on.
In a March 2009 Sky1 interview, the producers confirmed that Adam and Eve are not the actual biblical figures, and are "not the dog either."
In January 2010, after Barack Obama and his administration moved their State of the Union Address away from February 2 to avoid a conflict with the premiere of Lost's final season, Damon and Carlton said that Obama could ask a question about any unresolved mystery and they would answer it. Over Twitter the White House's ABC correspondent, Jake Tapper, claimed that Obama had asked the identity of Adam and Eve. In reply (also over Twitter) Carlton said, "Good question! Have POTUS call us!" [1]

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+{{Infobox Character
-[[Image:Aande_1.jpg|thumb|right|Adam and/or Eve in [[The Caves]].]]
+| Title=Adam and Eve
-[[Image:Aande_2.jpg|thumb|right|Adam and/or Eve in [[The Caves]].]]
+| Image=0497c4790d3b384962a85848307847db.jpg
-[[Image:Aande_stones.jpg|thumb|right|The stones found on the bodies.]]
+| ImageSize=250px
-[[Image:Bottlecaps-or-stones.jpg|thumb|right|Stones on the table?]]
+| Name=[[Man in Black's mother|Mother]] and [[Man in Black]]
-In {{ep|1x06}}, [[Jack]] and [[Kate]] discovered two bodies in the [[the Caves|cave]]. On these bodies, Jack found a small bag containing one white and one black rock. [[Locke]] gave the bodies the names '''Adam and Eve'''.
+| First={{ep|1x06}}
+| Last={{ep|6x15}}
+| IslandReason=Protecting [[the Source]] (Mother)<br /> Born on the Island (Man in Black)
+| S1Ep=1x06
+| S6Ep=6x15
+}}
+'''Adam and Eve''' are the [[nickname|nicknames]] given by [[Locke]] to the skeletons of [[the Man in Black]] and his adoptive [[mother]] when he, [[Kate]] and [[Jack]] discovered them in [[2004]]. {{crossref|1x06}} The bodies were laid to rest by [[Jacob]] in the [[Caves]] millennia before the [[Crash of Oceanic Flight 815|crash]] of [[Flight 815]] after the Mother was stabbed and the Man in Black was transformed into the smoke monster. {{crossref|6x15}}
-==Facts==
+== Facts ==
+__TOC__
-* They are [[skeletons]] found in [[the caves]] discovered by Jack in the episode {{ep|1x05}}.  They have not been seen since.
+* Jack first discovered the caves in {{ep|1x05}}, but Adam and Eve weren't seen until {{ep|1x06}}, when he and Kate stumbled upon them after escaping from a swarm of bees.
-* The bodies themselves were not discovered until the episode {{ep|1x06}}, when [[Jack]] returned to [[the caves]] to collect water.
+* [[Locke]] gave the skeletons their nicknames, taken from Adam and Eve of the [[Bible]].  However, given the mother-son relationship between them, a more apt analogy would be Eve and Cain.
-* They have been dead at least 40-50 years according to the deterioration of their clothing.
-* They were carrying one black and one white stone. Jack took these stones and neglected to mention them when Locke asked what had been discovered.  See also: [[Black and white]].
+* Jack neglected to mention the stones when Locke asked what had been discovered. (''see also: [[Black and white]]'')
+* The skeletons' identities were revealed in episode {{ep|6x15}}, 111 episodes after their first appearance in {{ep|1x06}}.
+{{I|I=Aande_stones.jpg|a=right|w=200|c=The stones found on the bodies.}}
+== Characters' theories ==
+* Jack guessed that the bodies must have been dead 40-50 years based on the deterioration of their clothing. {{crossref|1x06}}  However, upon discovering the remains of a [[Goldie|Nigerian smuggler]], Locke told [[Boone]] that normal clothing would decompose within 2 years and that the high quality polyester on the smuggler's body would take 2-10 years to get to its current condition. {{crossref|1x19}}
+* In 2007, when [[Hurley]] and Jack revisited the caves, Hurley theorized that the skeletons might belong to two of the survivors of [[Oceanic Flight 815]] as a result of [[time travel]]. {{crossref|6x05}}
 ==Interview testimony==
-* In an [http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20010504,00.html EW.com article], [[Damon Lindelof]] and [[Carlton Cuse]] answered the fan question, "What is the meaning or significance of the two skeletons that [[Jack]] and [[Kate]] found in the cave of season 1?"
+* In a January 2007 [http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20010504,00.html EW.com interview] with [[Jeff Jensen]], [[Damon Lindelof]] and [[Carlton Cuse]] answered the question, "What is the meaning or significance of the two skeletons that [[Jack]] and [[Kate]] found in the cave of Season 1?"
+* In a March 2008 [http://www.ugo.com/tv/lost/?cur=darlton Underground Online article], the producers talked about how the skeletons might give insight into the nature of the show and evidence that certain elements were planned early on.
-'''CUSE:''' The answer to that question goes to the nature of the timeline of the island. We don't want to say too much about it, but there are a couple Easter eggs embedded in {{ep|3x07}}, one of which is an anagram that actually sheds some light on the skeletons and hints at a larger mythological mystery that will start to unfold later in the season. <br >
+* In a March 2009 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQlM9tIuXsA Sky1 interview], the producers confirmed that Adam and Eve are not the actual biblical figures, and are "not [[Vincent|the dog]] either."
-'''LINDELOF:''' There were certain things we knew from the very beginning. Independent of ever knowing when the end was going to be, we knew what it was going to be, and we wanted to start setting it up as early as season 1, or else people would think that we were making it up as we were going along. So the skeletons are the living -- or, I guess, slowly decomposing -- proof of that. When all is said and done, people are going to point to the skeletons and say, "That is proof that from the very beginning, they always knew that they were going to do ''this.''"
+* In January 2010, after Barack Obama and his administration moved their State of the Union Address away from February 2 to avoid a conflict with the premiere of ''Lost'''s final season, Damon and Carlton said that Obama could ask a question about any unresolved mystery and they would answer it. Over Twitter the White House's ABC correspondent, Jake Tapper, claimed that Obama had asked the identity of Adam and Eve. In reply (also over Twitter) Carlton said, "Good question! Have [[Wikipedia:POTUS|POTUS]] call us!" [http://lostmediamentions.blogspot.com/2010/01/president-obama-submits-question.html]
-:* One, the anagram, could be [[Mittelos]] -- "Lost Time" or "Time Slot" -- and there could also be something embedded within the [[Room 23]] video.
+{{Nav-Mythology}}
-:* The other may be the reversed audio from the [[Room 23]] footage. When played backwards the words "Only fools are enslaved by time and space." is repeated extremely clearly. It is possible to make the names "Adam and Eve" from the letters of this phrase.
+{{Nav-Monster}}
+[[ar:آدم و حواء]]
-:* Two stones appear on a table in Desmond's flat in his flashback during {{ep|3x08}}. ''(It is also possible that the "stones" on the table in Desmond/Penny's flat are in fact just the bottle caps that came from the empty beer bottles on the floor around Desmond.''
+[[es:Adán y Eva]]
+[[fr:Adam et Ève]]
+[[pl:Adam i Ewa]]
-==Unanswered questions==
+[[ru:Адам и Ева]]
-{{NavMinor-Unanswered}}
-* Who were Adam and Eve?
+[[zh:Adam and Eve]]
-* What is the meaning of the black and white stones found on the body?
-* Were they victims of [[the purge]]?
-{{Nav-Mythology}}
-[[Category:Unsolved]]
 [[Category:Deceased Characters]]
+[[Category:Season 1 characters]]
+[[Category:Season 6 characters]]